Unique intercooler location

[dontuhatepants]

Ok, I don't know if this is actually unique or not but I wanted to post some pictures of my intercooler location and see what people's opinions are. Obviously these are all works in progress but I'll update when it's done.

I'm doing a silvia conversion and had everything apart and decided to see if I could put the intercooler a little more stealth so I didn't have to f up my bumper.

As you can see, it's going to be a ton less piping and I hope better response. I'm working on it in a few minutes and will update as I go.

Thanks for lookin!

[Felipe]

next to the rad? too much heat?

[ImportBastard]

to cheap to buy piping? and your gonna defeat the purpose of the intercooler by placing it next to the RAD...

[phreezer]

I'd try a smaller IC and piping if I were doing track racing or cone dodging events, but atm I have a monster sized IC and piping on a ca18det causing some noticeable lag.

I'm only a few IQ points from mounting an intercooler in the trunk so I don't know how the radiator heat would affect it. Should be fine if your moving forward blowing air across it and not sitting stopped for a long time. Leave the fans on and get a vented hood.

[BHayes_S13Coupe]

been done, that setup is mostly called a "midmount" setup.

[ca18detgabby]

I would run 2 sets of fans, one set pushing, and one set pulling

[snwbrdr435]

.....but atm I have a monster sized IC and piping on a ca18det.....

a$$ to mouth??

[r34 gtr]

a$$ to mouth??

Yikes.

[Koshin]

Yikes.

[adrianfromthecastle]

there are advantages of having the ic in that location. Shorter ic piping = better response. Also, if its for a DD, cops won't be able to see it...

[MastaYu]

interesting

[ImportBastard]

interesting... hmm... why not just go topmount? shortest ic pipes...

[nissanman04]

heat

soak.

[MastaYu]

what about a V-mount?

[Kalypso]

van gitten jr's s14 did it also.





in case he can tapped a wall they could just replace the bumper.

[MastaYu]

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van gitten jr's s14 did it also.





in case he can tapped a wall they could just replace the bumper.

So sick

[Flicktitty]

neat idea, but i like the good ole fmic look....or the V-Mount

[tramp_drift240]

i kinda like that. i dont want to have to cut up my pig bumper for a FMIC.

i can understand how the heatsoak could be a big issue, but how bad is it really?

[Kalypso]

^ Thats a good question, front mounts win out in terms of efficiency. see the right most bar on this graph.



here's the article http://autospeed.com/cms/artic...t+Two

you can also coat an intercooler with http://www.swaintech.com/store.asp?pid=10968 so that is dissipates heat faster

swain tech sells it. your front mount will start to look like the one in the front.




Modified by Kalypso123 at 10:30 PM 8/3/2008

[Red Devil]

It looks like VGjr.'s setup is a liquid to air setup. But back to the subject, wouldnt you get almost no airflow to the rad with that setup? At least with V-mount or FMIC you have some airflow. And heat sock would be a big issue. I think their are better ways to reduce lag than that.

[Kalypso]

I guess we would have to see it with the bumper on.

he could make ducting out of sheet metal that funnels the air into his intercooler. and with fans he should be set.

[Hijacker]

I ran my old IC like that as well. You don't run into that much heatsoak with the radiator. The only times I ever encountered any overheating issues was due to my fan not working at idle (had the ground cable come loose of it's crimp connector)

In fact, I'm currently running a Spearco IC tucked up under the core support. And guess what? Still no heatsoaking issues.

Also, I'll take my shorter piping any day of the week.

to cheap to buy piping? and your gonna defeat the purpose of the intercooler by placing it next to the RAD...

Explain that please. Air goes over the intercooler first. The radiator shouldn't be blowing its air across the IC, or you're doing it wrong

[tramp_drift240]

ABOUT THAT GRAPH.

are you sure thats not just comparing the stock size intercoolers to aftermarket intercoolers, in terms of the materials used and the size of them?

i dont think that has anything to do with the placement....

doesnt seem like itd cause any overheating issues due to the rad being blocked. and it saves room behind the bumper for the bumper support and styrofoam for light impacts. less chance of messing up the expensive friggin' FM.

i like it. a lot. Hijacker, you able to give any more info on your old setup? coolant temps, stuff like that.

[Kalypso]

i kinda like that. i dont want to have to cut up my pig bumper for a FMIC.

i can understand how the heatsoak could be a big issue, but how bad is it really?

OH! im silly

I thought you preferred side mount Intercooler'sto front mounts

but yeah I agree with you and hijacker I dont think the heat soak will be too serious.

but when dontyouhatepants is done we'll all find out.

[Nissan240sx_s13]

van gitten jr's s14 did it also.





in case he can tapped a wall they could just replace the bumper.

Too bad his dad crashed it thoe...

[Kalypso]

yeah, it could have been avoided.

beautiful car, now they need to build something better.

[Hijacker]

ABOUT THAT GRAPH.

are you sure thats not just comparing the stock size intercoolers to aftermarket intercoolers, in terms of the materials used and the size of them?

i dont think that has anything to do with the placement....

doesnt seem like itd cause any overheating issues due to the rad being blocked. and it saves room behind the bumper for the bumper support and styrofoam for light impacts. less chance of messing up the expensive friggin' FM.

i like it. a lot. Hijacker, you able to give any more info on your old setup? coolant temps, stuff like that.

My old setup utilized a Saab 900 FMIC. As for coolant temps, I've only used the Nissan temp gauge in the cluster. But like I said, the only times the car has overheated, has been from bad wiring on my e-fan. Sit at idle long enough, and any radiatior without a fan pulling air across it will start to overheat. The Saab IC was massive too. It was a thin core, but it was as tall and wide as a 240 radiator, so it blocked the radiator pretty well.

The new spearco is much smaller, but thicker. It's 24"x6" and 3 or 4" deep. Where I have it tucked, it gets direct airflow from over the bumper (open grill in place of the silvia light bar is a must for this placement) and it covers up less of the radiator. Using this particular core really flattened my torque curve out, which makes me happy.

[Kalypso]

any pictures?

[EVbot d.e.t.]

Hell yes! Matt @ Import Intelligence first showed me a midmount setup like a year or two ago. Had it on an sr and that thing spooled super fast.

This is exactly the same setup I'm going to install in my coupe over the winter, probably with a slightly smaller core though. Not too worried about heat issues.

Right now I have a single 14" behind my radiator and coming back to the pit after a 20-30 drift run it's cool to the touch. I figure I'll keep that fan and sandwich a second between the I/C core and the rad for max airflow.
Modified by EVbot d.e.t. at 1:02 PM 8/4/2008

[tramp_drift240]

My old setup utilized a Saab 900 FMIC. As for coolant temps, I've only used the Nissan temp gauge in the cluster. But like I said, the only times the car has overheated, has been from bad wiring on my e-fan. Sit at idle long enough, and any radiatior without a fan pulling air across it will start to overheat. The Saab IC was massive too. It was a thin core, but it was as tall and wide as a 240 radiator, so it blocked the radiator pretty well.

The new spearco is much smaller, but thicker. It's 24"x6" and 3 or 4" deep. Where I have it tucked, it gets direct airflow from over the bumper (open grill in place of the silvia light bar is a must for this placement) and it covers up less of the radiator. Using this particular core really flattened my torque curve out, which makes me happy.

yeah, i was just wondering if the IC blocking the rad would make it any easier to overheat. i know about the idle without a fan thing, haha.

but thanks for the info! very much appreciated.

OP, cant wait for you to finish it all up so i can see the finished product.