Turbo shooting oil!

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Ok, i finaly got this beast to crank and rev and stay on.... but there was a **** load of whiteish smoke coming out of the hood (no downpipe, exhaust straight from the turbine) and i didnt think much of it i was just happy it was going. But then, when i let it die and i got out and looked by the turbo, there was oil... EVERYWHERE. The turbine is shooting oil out like it just did 15 shots of a tequilla. Is it a blown turbo or is my motor *****ed?

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Probably a blown turbo seal

Wow, you started it with an open o2 housing? I bet that was loud lol

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Lol its not that loud. But now to think of it, i need to hook up an o2 sensor :)

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Oil should not be coming out of the turbine. Was the turbo new and did you buy it off ebay? Some people do rebuilds themselves and do a really bad job at it. Then they try and sell the crap on ebay to some unsuspecting patron and "Voila" you got issues.

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Well it was from blaast performance and it wasnt brand new but it has a 90 day warranty so if it is the turbo its all good (other than me having to switch them out and wait). But is that a turbo problem? Let me give a few more details. I did the oil lines myself. I just finished the feed line because it was leaking before, but before... when i would pull the feed line off, i could see oil at the very top of the inlet port, and it would SLOWLY drain out. Could it possibly be a bad oil drain line from the turbo? Like there is soo much oil being pushed in and it doesnt have anywhere to go?

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There can't be any restrictions on the return side. If it's already leaking send it back.

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Well im probly going to send it back, but my concern is if its blowing this much oil (there is a LOT coming out of the exhaust side), could it be more than just a blown seal in the turbo? i totaly redid my return but i think its fine.

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its just the turbo i am going through that with my t28...its doing the same thing your saying and i know my engine is fine.

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Well is your shooting a lot of oil?? I need to fix whatever it is and if its just labor and not having to replace the turbo that would be better :). But i still wont run on its own so i gotta find someway to get the fuel rail off without having to tear down the intake.

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I'd get it started again, and then have one person keep it running and another use a flashlight and try and pinpoint where the oil is coming from exactly.

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i Know where its coming from, it blowing out of the turbine. Its not like a few specs, it cakes everything behind the turbo. I dont have exhaust so it just blows out the back of the turbine.

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Ok, would the fact that i used 5w30 synthetic oil have anything to do with it? Thats a very thin oil and i wanted to use it for the first run to check for leaks... which i guess i found :)

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nab911 wrote:i gotta find someway to get the fuel rail off without having to tear down the intake.
GAH! don't pull the intake manifold to get the fuel rail!!! the rail is held on by 2 big bolts on top, and a smaller one on the back! It comes right off in about 20 minutes:)

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Lol well i can get one of the screws loose, the other is blocked by the AIV solenoid and that other.... little douchey thing. I may just take that piece off because i cant move the wrench far enough to undo it. But does anyone have any input on that oil thing? I think when i get a chance, and some money im going to do an oil change and put 20w50 syntec blend in it.

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That may slow it, but it won't fix it. I think you need a new turbo, or have the one you've got rebuilt.

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Well i have to have a reason for the guys to tkae it back and replace it. They said if its blowing that much oil then it may be a bigger problem. It got me worried but i dunno.

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Well its not oil.... Its a thin black fluid, but i just checked my oil level and its full... But... it wont crank without starting fluid because I thought the injectors were cloged, but i loose about 1/16th of a tank of gas everytime i spray fluid and rev it up... i think its flooding itself till it dies and blowing all the xtra gas out. Any suggestions guys?

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You would know if that was gas cause it would still smell like gas check to make sure you are not losing water or any other fluids. You might have the coolant lines mess or something but I would think you should be able to smell gas if it is gas and not oil.

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well where the hell is my gas going?? The stuff has no smell to it. Its not coolant lines because whatever it is, it like puddles in the turbine.

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Does it feel like oil on your fingers?

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It's gas and oil! And that's a bad combination for your turbo and your engine when mixed together.

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Lol excellent... well i guess im bout to go pull my turbo and if **** comes out of that manifold when cranking... im going to sell all this **** and get a convertible and turbo it :)... oh and testing the waters... anyone want a ca18 with minor internal problems and a polished valve cover and spec stage 3 clutch :)

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if there is an excess of gas, then you might want to get your injectors cleaned

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I say see if it burns....

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well that was the problem in the first place, i thought they were clogged... it could also be starting fluid that passed through caus i sprayed a lot, but it is definatly gas/methonal based caus after i got the turbo off, i saw some fluid collected in the bottom of the 1st/2nd runners and it smelled gashish. But, the 3rd and 4th runners were clean so i guess its just a ****ty turbo. One last question for you guys, when i took the turbo feed off, i saw oil jsut sit at the top of the turbo, it didnt drain or anything. Even with my drain off it slowly, and i mean slowly drained out the bottom... ****ty turbo??

Oh and ryan, i tried to burn it and it just dissapered under flame. Not like poofy flame, just dissapered...

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Hmmm, I don't think it's oil. doubt it's gas. Might be starting fluid though...

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well i think dee is right about it being a mixture because everytime i would start it, white smoke was everywhere. And im going to slap the first person who tries to say that white smoke means coolant.

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doesn't white smoke mean coolant? Hehehehe :poke

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Quote »doesn't white smoke mean coolant?[/quote] Not always fartty-boy:bshake> It could be very well leftover uburned starter fluid getting smoked during the compression stroke.

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.... white smoke could mean starter fluid... if i pulled my turbo for no reason ill be pissed. But... Does the oil not flowing out of the turbo like i mentioned mean its clogged or does it drain as the turbo spins or as its pressured through?

Well the turbo company said it would drain like that if its not under pressure. So i gotta figure out if its worth sending the turbo back to have it replaced. They said it would be better to just send the bearing section but how hard is it do reassemble the turbo? I have take one apart before but i couldnt get the wheels back on right because if i tightened them to much they wouldnt spin and not enough and they would unscrew themeselves.


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