Turbo PT Cruiser!

[MaineExport]

On a side note---what do you guys think of the NISSAN SE-R spec v? 175 Hp, 185 lb foot, 17" rims, 11" vented disks, 6 speed manual, variable valve timing, etc etc---Seems damn nice for $20k!!! Just think...if they kept making the 240sx, our Ka24DE would be a KA25DE (2.5 liter), with 175 HP stock! THat'd be really nice!

20K.... don't think so! My ex-girl looked at an '03 SE-R spec-V for $16,000. There were a few on the lot and they were all going for the same price. But yes.... they are freakin awesome cars!!! If I am ever in the market for a 4-door FWD... I would certainly consider the spec-V.

[C-Kwik]

Go to any of the PT Owners Club meets and you will see quite a lot of nice work on the PT's. While very few of the owners will go as far as adding any real power, the work most of them have done is clean. Many put upwards of $10K into just the paint.

While Chrysler does not offer a S/C, whipple makes a CARB Legal kit for it. Makes the car fairly quick.

As far as the turbo PT and Neon, one more thing I should mention is that they come with a FMIC from the factory. I got a close look at one at a show. There is a LOT of room for a larger turbo as well. But I'm not sure of the upgrade potential of the factory internals. Having seen the insides of a non-turbo PT, the rods are very thin. 7 psi is pushing the ragged edge. With the turbo PT, I imagine they have beefed it up a bit, but with such a minimalist approach to building cars, I'm not sure huge power increases will be very easy. Though I would think upping the boost to reach about 300 flywheel HP would be fairly safe.

[EyeStabPeople]

i think some of you guys need to come out of your JDM holes, Neons are some serious bang for the buck, sports and ACRs pull over a G on the skidpad and the motors have a very good powerband, infact id say a neon is very tough competitor for an SE model 240, possible even better, dont rag on them unless you know what youre talking about

the new SRT4 and Turbo PT have bullet proof internals... nuff said

if you guys knew anything about the 80s/early90s turbo dodges you wouldnt look down on these cars, as you can go buy a daytona, a dodge spirit, a shadow with a turbo motor in it, drop 500 bucks into it and runs 12s all day, reliably, so please dont go on the whoel "domestics are ****" rant, its played out japanese cars and 240 have their fair share of problems, wake up and smell roses guys

Mopar already has a turbo upgrade kit for the turbo PT and srt4 thatll put it at 300+hp on stock unopened motor, and they are researching an AWD system for the car. i have a friend that saw a show room stock SRT4 at the track when chrysler rented out Milan Dragway run a 14 flat at over 100 miles an hour

[SpeeDDrifT]

okay.....sure.......dodge.....bulletproof internals.....omni gls, shadow, daytona, etc etc.

but it's a PT....we give those things away at the casino i work in. and you know who's dieing to have 'em? old people and women in their 40's.

my OPINION it's ugly and whatever the good of the motor....doesn't make up for it.

as for the SE-R Vspec.....it's a nice car. i love the VVTC(or whatever nissan calls it) too bad it's FF.

[EyeStabPeople]

i am by NO MEANS supporting that motor in a PT cruiser, PT cruisers are dandy but theyre not sports cars, but the motors are pretty sweet and the SRT-4 is pretty nuts

i used to own a spirit r/t, had forged internals stock, lotus made DOHC 16 valve head, stock motor, big exhaust, computer, MBC at 16 psi and K&N put me into the 300 hp range, turbo dodges are nothign to laugh at, im sure alot of you guys reading this have had your asses handed to you by one at sometime or another and are too ashamed to admit it (mainly on the east coast where turbo dodges are the biggest) i dont think theres too many on the west coast.... hell, theres a 9 second K car thats still front wheel drive on the stock block and rods in connecticut

i also have a friend with a neon with a built 2.0 and a han racecraft stage 5 kit, i think, he put down 376 hp at the wheels first time on the dyno untuned!

[MaineExport]

i think some of you guys need to come out of your JDM holes, Neons are some serious bang for the buck, sports and ACRs pull over a G on the skidpad and the motors have a very good powerband, infact id say a neon is very tough competitor for an SE model 240, possible even better, dont rag on them unless you know what youre talking about

the new SRT4 and Turbo PT have bullet proof internals... nuff said

if you guys knew anything about the 80s/early90s turbo dodges you wouldnt look down on these cars, as you can go buy a daytona, a dodge spirit, a shadow with a turbo motor in it, drop 500 bucks into it and runs 12s all day, reliably, so please dont go on the whoel "domestics are ****" rant, its played out japanese cars and 240 have their fair share of problems, wake up and smell roses guys

Mopar already has a turbo upgrade kit for the turbo PT and srt4 thatll put it at 300+hp on stock unopened motor, and they are researching an AWD system for the car. i have a friend that saw a show room stock SRT4 at the track when chrysler rented out Milan Dragway run a 14 flat at over 100 miles an hour

I know PLENTY about late 80's early 90's Dodge cars.... as that was when I was in high scshool, and had a lot of friends with said vehicles. The Shadow ES and Omni turbo are fast as hell, and both built to beat on! The Daytona isn't half bad either. Not all Dodge cars are crap, and I never said they were. The Neon has hade some reliability issues, and they are NOT in the same league as the turbo K cars and Daytonas. They are cheaply made regardless of their 'superior' engineering. The nw tubo Neonmay be a great car... they have had a lot of timeto work out the bugs, and I'm sure it is fast. I just started this thread out of frustration. It sucks that all these 'cheap' cars are geting the speed makeover right from the factory.

[Edge2099]

cool

[Bubba]

Neons are fun to toss around. I actually took several hot laps at Lime Rock in one. The PTCru is basically a Neon but with a body that looks like a 37 Ford. Also fun to drive, but I have ZERO desire to own one even with a zippier motor. I have had 4 chryslers (last was a 300M). I can tell you from experience Chrysler makes well designed, well engineered, attractive comfortable, good performing cars, but they are built CHEAP. I had more warranty problems with my last Chrysler than both of my older Japanese cars combined. I won't get another Chrysler product.

[Miami240]

yep, the neon is a great car .. in 95-97 they had some bugs.. (eg the electrical system, exhaust donut, and infamous head gasket). I owned 2.. a 95 sport and 99 R/T, and they were great cars. Even though they are front wheel drive, they are damn better than any honda out there. And remember.. the SRT-4 is going with an old concept.. its using the 2.4 liter turbo setup from the older Daytona R/T and the like.. its just refined a bit, so you can imagine the potential that thing is gonna have... hell it already puts out more power than what its rated at. I would definately buy, and own another neon... but after 7 years of driving them.. i needed a change. And my WRX, and soon to be 180 SX conversion fills that need for pure bred performance. But the neon will always be a fun to drive, excellent Bang for the buck automobille IMHO

[EyeStabPeople]

well the new neon motor is absolutely nothing like the Turbo 3 motor that was in the daytona iroc r/t, i had a spirit r/t witht he same motor, extremely strong motor, but had some crazy valve springs that made the timing belts go way too fast, i got rid of the car and am now focusing on an RB powered S14 (i change my mind everyday, will probably end up SR) theyre simply funner, but i must say the complete lack of horsepower my car has right now disgusts me to the point that i am considering trading it for a 91 talon tsi awd with a bunch of mods... but im trying to stick with the 240 cause all the effort i put into it wil pay off soooo sweetly in the end

[casman86]

No matter how much power a Neon has, it's still FRONT WHEEL DRIVE, so it's garbage. If it's not RWD it's a grocery-getter. (unless it's AWD)

[fuzion]

It'll have a whopping 180HP, I'll bet, and still be FWD. They are FWD, aren't they?

Bottom line, who cares.

Nick.

220hp & torque actually

Neon SRT-4 Turbo is what it will be, same engine as the Cruiser, and I believe its the same overall chasis, different shell

They are cramming it in there.. last I saw the Cruiser was hitting 14psi

[MaineExport]

220hp & torque actually

Neon SRT-4 Turbo is what it will be, same engine as the Cruiser, and I believe its the same overall chasis, different shell

Actually the new numbers that they are advertising are 250 hp and around the same torque. The actual output exceeded their expectations. And if you had taken the time to read the entire 3 pages of posts.... you would know that we already figured out that it was the SRT-4.... and yes it's he same cassis and engine as the turbo PT.

[jemil118]

Actually SCC just did a write-up about the SRT-4:Manufacturer's Claimed HP: 215@5400 RPMManufacturer's Claimed TQ: 245 lb-ft@2000 RPMSCC Measured HP:223@5600 RPMSCC Measured TQ:250@3000 RPM0-60: 5.8 SECsQuarter Mile: [email protected] mphInline 4 DOHC 16 Valve Turbo Charged(TD-04-16g) and Intercooled boosting to 14 PSIThese are all respectable numbers in the performance category,especially coming from the Domestic scene, but I still wouldn't buy one because it's a DodgeThese are also during the final production stages of the SRT-4 so you can expect the actual numbers to be a little lower.

You will also be shifting at about 5000 RPM because after that all power curves start to drop...

[MaineExport]

Actually SCC just did a write-up about the SRT-4:Manufacturer's Claimed HP: 215@5400 RPMManufacturer's Claimed TQ: 245 lb-ft@2000 RPMSCC Measured HP:223@5600 RPMSCC Measured TQ:250@3000 RPM0-60: 5.8 SECsQuarter Mile: [email protected] mphInline 4 DOHC 16 Valve Turbo Charged(TD-04-16g) and Intercooled boosting to 14 PSIThese are all respectable numbers in the performance category,especially coming from the Domestic scene, but I still wouldn't buy one because it's a DodgeThese are also during the final production stages of the SRT-4 so you can expect the actual numbers to be a little lower.

You will also be shifting at about 5000 RPM because after that all power curves start to drop...

Well... we established that it was the same engine as the turbo PT.... and the ad on TV today said... 250hp!!! It was a really stupid ad where there are 2 parties having a video conference... long story short, one guy goes back and forth between the two meeting locations in his turbo PT Cruiser. But... if the new turbo Neon has the same engine as the PT... it is 250hp as advertised, and with today's FCC watch dogs... you can't get away with THAT MUCH of a lie on a TV ad.