Turbo Kit Update

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For the stg1 kit I may just go with a 10/1 FMU and use the rail, injectors and some type of management as a stg2 option to make the kit as affordable as possible. With the FMU it will be good for 9 psi which the wastegate is set for.


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i thought you didnt want to use a FMU? also, isnt a 10/1 ratio going to make it a bit rich? and third, can we buy the kit without the fuel upgrades so its pretty much manifold, turbo, intercooler, ic piping, and downpipe? and maybe the wastegate and BOV depending on what type you are using. after looking at the what the AEM EMS can do i am really interested in getting one.

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Yeah, the AEM EMS is awsome...I would recommend that to alot of people if they can tune there own car, or afford to pay someone to do it. I can sell the kits with everything minus the fuel if people have there own idea's. I know alot of people still like the JWT ECU. WHich is still a very setup to use. In fact, I may just sell the fuel crap on the side period. Buy if you want, don't if ya don't. Thats a pretty good idea Bro...That way I can tune mine however I want. Since I want to run a alot of alky and alot leaner mixtures then most anyone.

Anymore idea's for me...lol.

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is that a top mount or bottom mount manifold? i think id be interested in the mani, turbo, dp, and oil feed/return if it is different then the ones now.

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I suppose I can deal with things like that on a case by case. Its a top mount by the way.

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maybe i skipped some replies but are you thinking that you will have the kit done in a month with a price and the options? im just starting to piece together a kit. this could be perfect timing.

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If it aint done within a month I'm going to set my 240 on fire!!!!

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WDRacing wrote:If it aint done within a month I'm going to set my 240 on fire!!!!


Good thinkin there sport! :)

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i think that is a great idea of having no fuel setup with it. jsut have all the fabrication already done. include the oil lines also.

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Plus the kits will be alot cheaper that way to. Not to mention giving everyone all the options for there own upgrades.

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WD, I cant wait to see your kit ready to sell, but sadly I decided to get another Maxima instead of an S14. I was thinking maybe a 95/96 and possibly a 97. Please tell me that after working on the 240 you do kits for other cars. I might be able to talk to hlh about it, but he's not doing the kits any more.

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For the MAX I'd need your car in the shop to do. Its alot of crazy plumbing to get a turbo under the hood of a MAX. But I'm more then willing to give it a shot, could be fun.

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Well it looks that aint appening.:(

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Since you asked for ideas WD, I think making the fuel setup optional is a great idea for a lot of buyers, but I also think a basic fuel setup or advice on what to buy initially is a sound idea also.

I don't know if there's a lot of others out there like me, but I'm one of those who have been looking at the Greddy Kit and either have a OBD1 S14 that they are afraid to try and make work or who thought that kit was a good in principle (bolt on, pre-tuned, ready to go kit) but decided what you were cooking up sounded promising and have decided to wait and see what you come to the table with (I fit into both categories).

I think there's a lot of people who want to turn the 240 into the sports car it was meant to be without getting neck-deep in tuning a super-boost monster. These people want to boost 7-10 psi to make their car a heck of a lot more fun to drive without having to be really concerned with reliability issues or crazy amounts of tuning and headaches when things aren't going right. Having 240+ rwhp translates on average (assuming a 20% drivetrain loss) to 300+ bhp, which is a dream come true for a lot of hard-working car enthusiasts who just can't afford the Supras, WRXs and RX-7s of the world. I mean a 2800 lb car pushing 300+ bhp is truly a sports car if not a tuned-out monster.

So that's my 2 cents. I think an affordable, ready-to-boost 7-10psi kit would be a blessing to many a 240 owner.

And as a PS, the kind of owner I describe really, REALLY appreciates well written instructions. I know it's not the most exciting thing in the world and may take some time to get it comprehensive and done right, but for the kind of 240 owner I am and I describe above, it would mean the difference between equally good-looking kits. I know my way around a car pretty well, but for someone who has never gone turbo, well-written, comprehensive instructions are invaluable.

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Yeah, that is very true. I'm the same way-understand the car okay, but really wouldn't have a clue how to actually install a turbo kit. Sadly, I may not get a chance to anyways since my parents won't let me while the car is still insured under their name as well as mine, and if I put it under just mine, I won't be able to afford a turbo setup. ARg!

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I'll have pics and instructions meant for my sister to use....lol. I'll have all the stuff forsale to boost 8 psi all day without tuning as an option to any of the kits I sell.

Customer service is a huge thing to me...

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Quote »I'll have pics and instructions meant for my sister to use....lol. I'll have all the stuff forsale to boost 8 psi all day without tuning as an option to any of the kits I sell.[/quote]

Excellent! I must say I am really excited to see what you have to offer. Thanks for living up to your claim of excellent customer service too, keeping everyone informed is not only good business but keeps everyone's interest around here high. Keep up the solid work!

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If anything I feel like an A** for taking so long to release anything. It's killing me to wait so long...

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What do you have left to do on you car? How much power do you wanna make with it? 500hp? 600? Maybe 700?

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Just install the mani and fab the down pipe...thats it. This motor is going for 500 on stock internals, then on to bigger and better once I blow the stocker up.

The new race motor is actually going to be quite the hybrid. I'm toying with the Kenne Bell Super Charger and a TO4R. The plumbing and brackets aren't actually that hard. Although the hood will be completely custom...lol. But thats pretty far down the road. Next year at the earliest...

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turbo and superchared!?!Kids, stand back...

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T-88(or some big turbo), w/ a Vortech S-Trim or something to spool the turbo, 13:1 compression, 500hp shot of N20....muahahaha, that would be THE ultimate KA.

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IWannaS15 wrote:turbo and superchared!?!Kids, stand back...


Twincharged =)

Reminds me of the HKS kit for the AW11....

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I like the instant boost of the root style blower. Mixed with the T88 I'll have enough volume to produce 2000WHP and no lag.

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SWEETNESS!!!!

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now...how to dump enough fuel to support 2000whp? haha

straight methanol, 0 degrees timing, and 2:1 compression

And this is a daily driver of course

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woo i hope the kit is going well...

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Hurry up WD we're all drooling ^_^

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hey just saw this post again. its been over a week since anyone has posted. are there any updates wd? i have my fuel system ready. just waiting to see what im doing about the turbo parts.

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Yeah...any updates? I'm anxious to see also. Any chance that this might ever be available to S13's also? I saw someone above mentioned non-IC'ed setups as an option, is that still potentially going to be available (for price reasons that is)? Reason I ask is (and anyone can chime in here and answer this) because if you're able to do it and it's cheap enough, could 5 or 6 psi be do-able without an IC and on stock fuel?

Sure would be nice to have a setup like that as like the absolute bare minimum for people like me just to get off the ground. But again, if that's not really possible, then oh well. Just shooting ideas...anyone?


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