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Does anybody have any good pictures of your heat shields? Also what are your thoughts on your heat shield setups. Yes I searched but only found a few setups with pictures showing heat shields.

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you know i am still learning all the aspects of turbocharging or lets say forced induction systems, and i gotta say that heatshielding must be taken seriously.

quick fix is wrap the turbo in a heatshield, but that'll kill the turbo in a long run, if it is not water cooled.

best case here, would be ignoring the looks of the underhood, and simplly wrapping anything with heatsheild that may get damaged from heat. in case, its a brake cylinder , all the plastics, wires, etc..

ventilation has to be there. intake from the front of car, and out hole on the hood or somewhere.

thermal management is the major problematic aspect of turbocharging.

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Actually I am really considering getting a CF vented hood. I really don`t feel like cutting the hood and trying to make fit a hood scoop. If you think about it the EVO`s have vented hoods and so do the WRX`s.

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a vented hood wouldnt resolve the very high radiant heat the turbo makes, jsut decrese the under hood temps some, not worth it to me



thermo-tec turbo blanket kit ordered from summitracing.com for a little over $80. i would actually like something more like duy has:


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thermo-tec turbo blanket kit ordered from summitracing.com for a little over $80. i would actually like something more like duy has:

Thanks for the pics. I am a little confused are you saying that what you have pictures of on your car is the Thermo-tec turbo blankit ?

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yea, screw underhood cosmetics...I never got why some people go to great lengths just to have a clean engine bay with lots of polished stuff. Just give it a good afternoon with some degreaser and then do what you must to make it safe and functional. Boostdesigns has a turbine shield for like $100, I'm not sure how that compares to a blanket. Do the blankets really shorten the turbo life?

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Yea I am going to order the Turbo shield from BD but I was thinking I might need to do the other stuff. Loosing brakes while on the highway is really not cool!!

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rseabrooke wrote:Yea I am going to order the Turbo shield from BD but I was thinking I might need to do the other stuff. Loosing brakes while on the highway is really not cool!!
What turbo shield? A piece of steel with bolt holes in it? Entirely not worth it. It will stop some radiant heat, up until the steel itself becomes heat-soaked, and gives off it's own radiant heat.

Your best bet is to get the leather-looking turbo blanket in the last picture posted. I know Enjuku sells them, around $120 I think. Those you can put your hand on the top right after shutting the engine off.-Jeff

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I will be getting a heatshield wrap from atpwrap.com. A lot of pictures of their work is available here:http://atpwrap.com/albumframeTurbo.htm

I believe this is the same heatshield (or same type) that Ryan Klattr uses:http://www.ka-t.org/klattr1/

Then, I will be getting my downpipe ceramic coated, wrap the brake resorvior in a heat bag, and cover miscellanoeus nearby lines in Therma Sleeve.

Should just about take care of any heat-related issues.

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No one has mentioned anything about shimming the hood. I was actually thinking of this as an inexpensive way of 'venting' the hood. Just add a couple of washers underneath the hinges on the back of the hood to raise it up a little so it creates a gap and the air will exit across the windshield (since heat rises this would work to keep engine bay temps down)

This would of course only be a cheap suppliment to heat-wrapping.

Any thoughts on this?

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with my ATPwrap.com inconel heatshield, i havent had to worry about master cylinder resevoir melting or protecting it from doing so.



i figured, instead of wrapping the thing that could have been damage, i would wrap the original source (the turbine) and keep the heat inside of there.

its definitely not cheap, but i imagine the Thermo-Tec heat-blanket that Duy or Brian (NX95240) uses would also work just fine.


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Stupid question but did you have to take the turbo apart to install it or did you just wrap it around?

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for the inconel heatshield, you have to pull the turbine off the center section to get the first half of it on. then you put the turbine housing back on, and put the other half on.

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klattr1 wrote:with my ATPwrap.com inconel heatshield, i havent had to worry about master cylinder resevoir melting or protecting it from doing so.

i figured, instead of wrapping the thing that could have been damage, i would wrap the original source (the turbine) and keep the heat inside of there.

its definitely not cheap, but i imagine the Thermo-Tec heat-blanket that Duy or Brian (NX95240) uses would also work just fine.
I have been in contact with Tim Thompson at atpwrap.com and while not exactly cheap at $275 for the turbine heatshield, you're going to be hard pressed to find any other options that are of higher quality. Plus, I like the idea that Ryan has gone with...attack the problem at it's source, don't bag up everything else in the vicinity.

Ryan, I'm curious...did you wrap your downpipe or have any type of thermal coating applied to it? And I see you have not bagged your master cyliner/brake reservoir...did you have to wrap anything else, or was the iconel heatshield the only component that you applied to fight off heat?

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Holy balls, 275?? WHY??!?

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savatoge wrote:Ryan, I'm curious...did you wrap your downpipe or have any type of thermal coating applied to it? And I see you have not bagged your master cyliner/brake reservoir...did you have to wrap anything else, or was the iconel heatshield the only component that you applied to fight off heat?
thats the only thing that is coated, covered, wrapped or whatever. my old F-Max manifold and downpipe was ceramic coated as well so i imagine that does help as well, but no major need to ceramic coat the turbine with the inconel heatshield.

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turtl631 wrote:Holy balls, 275?? WHY??!?
inconel is more of rare metal which is used in high temp. spots in nuclear powerplants and even on NASA projects. it is 3000 deg. farenheit resistant.

the reason why i got it was because my dad sees inconel used in nuclear powerplants so much and told me to look for something like that. so in my research, i came upon the inconel alloy racing cover.

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someoen on rx7club.com is selling 2 of those blankets that duy has.

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...then get them on a REAL forum where people will buy their stuff!

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LOL, ouch...RX7s are cool though..way better than Hondas or Mitsus or something

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AZhitman wrote:...then get them on a REAL forum where people will buy their stuff!
what r u talkin about hitman?

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I still think its ridiculous that I can buy a good blanket for me for like $100 but a turbo needs a $275 blanket..sheesh

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nobody said you'll need the $275 heatshield. its all just personal preference.

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for anyone that doesnt have much money to spend, there's a DIY kit that sells for 82.69

Scroll to the bottom of the page

I'm guessing it isn't going to work quite as well as a custom fabbed blanket of course but it comes with some extra wrap for the exhaust mani/DP.

just another option

Quote »This complete kit, to contain the heat produced by a turbo, fits a wide variety of turbines. The custom cut-to-fit kit comes with an excessive amount of material to cover turbos from the smallest automotive application to heavy-duty truck applications. Two Turbo Kits are available - a four cylinder kit, and a six and eight cylinder kit. Each kit contains a roll of Exhuast Insulating Wrap 1 or 2 inch, 1 yard of Aluminized Heat Barrier, and a 3 inch X 6 inch piece of Exhaust Insulating Wrap. Hardware and instructions are included.[/quote]

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BRINGING OLD POST BACK UP.---------------------------------------

ALSO THERE HAS TO BE SOME VENTILATION TOO. I MIGHT THINK OF DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS TOO.

MAKE SURE AREA OF INTAKE IS LARGER THAN THE TUBE ITSELF. THEN THERE HAS TO BE SOME WAY FOR THE AIR TO GET OUT; PREFERABLE SOME KIND OF VENTED HOOD NEAR THE END OF THE HOOD.

OK, I CANT ATTACH A PIC. WHY???

sorry for the caps, but where did attach pic go?

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two things, first will the wrap that klattr uses fit on the boost designs stage one kit, and what do you think about putting that one boost designs sells over the atp inconel one? just a thought

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chandler wrote:two things, first will the wrap that klattr uses fit on the boost designs stage one kit
well the heat shield i have fits on a Precision SC61 which is just like most ford style 5 bolt turbines. im not sure if it would fit on the turbine housings that BD uses.

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I am thinking the same thing. Why is it that the EVO`s and WRX have vented hoods? There has to be a reason that both companies went with a vented hood besides looks. I think they are using it to help keep temp down since they have warranties on these cars and they have to last more then a year.

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rseabrooke wrote:I am thinking the same thing. Why is it that the EVO`s and WRX have vented hoods? There has to be a reason that both companies went with a vented hood besides looks. I think they are using it to help keep temp down since they have warranties on these cars and they have to last more then a year.
you know since you got s13, you may do a self made ram air thing on both sides and direct it to the engine bay.

Depending on the design of the hood and the location of the vent, you can adjust the airpath etc...

when you do ram air, it needs to be behind that plastic grill on your bumper. and make sure it has funnel type of design, collection air from larger area, then tube carries air to engine bay then releaes it there.

When you drive really really fast in the rain, some water droplets may get under the hood and get onto turbo. you simply gonna see some vapor coming out, nothing serious.

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I wouldn`t attempt to drive the car in the rain. So that won`t be a problem.


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