Turbo CVT

[Hussain]

does anyone know how Turbo works with CVT? now i know a billion people will say CVT can't take turbo but that's a WRONG myth because it's been done on a CVT murano. my question is how? i mean if it never shifts gears, you wont use the blow off valve and wont that like mess up your engine? unless you keep your RPMs down in "D" so that you dont use the Turbo and then when you want to race or go fast, you use manual mode.... didn't they say Artisan was also working on Turbo for CVT coupes? i wonder if you could just use the stick shifts turbo kit or something.... the 4x4 Murano CVT with turbo was pushing 350 horsepower

[LegendRacer]

im sure they will have turbo for the CVT, but it mite take a lil longer, since performance parts manufactures tend to want to make it for Manual transmission first, since it can handle it easier (im assuming dont hate me ) and i guess market wise...those who drives autos vs manual, id assume that the stick drivers would be a bigger market

[Hussain]

lol ya you're right but even people who want stick shift (like me) can't find stick shift. CVT is a lot more common in the 3.5SE A/C. but ya, i guess we just have to wait.... but it's all good, i dont have money for turbo at the moment anyways lol but out of curiosity, does anyone know how much HP the VQ35DE can take before it blows? i heard the 4.6L GT Mustangs blow at around 430HP..... the Artisan coupe is at 450 WHP i believe which would be around 550 HP (if it really is 450WHP and not just 450 HP).

[glozaeta]

Where'd you hear a Mustang GT blows at 430Hp???

[TheBourneAltimatum]

Where'd you hear a Mustang GT blows at 430Hp???

well maybe he's just talkin about ford in genreal or he's probably talking about the POS 5.0 models they made.

what people dont understand id that Stock 6mt cant take that power...you need a better clutch...and cvt according to one nissan tech that already replaced the cvt three times on a murano becuse of turbo said that they are rated 300lbs of tq, but thats the origanal cvt...the xtronic cvt should handle that power...**** now big rigs in japan have cvt

look up cvt in wikepedia and it states that all cvt's made prior to 2005 had issues with too much torque and according to the info provided the cvt should have no problem using a turbo...but i wouldnt be the guinea pig if i was u

[Hussain]

ya i agree with you about the guinea pig thing and i heard that CVT couldn't take torque before. that that's the reason why people say it can't take Turbo. but ya, hopefully in time we'll see some turbo CVTs.

about the mustang. my friend told me. he has a 1998 Mustang and put a 4.6L GT motor in it (pre 2005). he told me they blow at 430. his is supercharged and he said he was going to leave it at 400 to get the most life out of it and as soon as it blows, he'll get forged internals and up the boost..... my brother said his motor blew the other day lol

[TheBourneAltimatum]

ya i agree with you about the guinea pig thing and i heard that CVT couldn't take torque before. that that's the reason why people say it can't take Turbo. but ya, hopefully in time we'll see some turbo CVTs.

about the mustang. my friend told me. he has a 1998 Mustang and put a 4.6L GT motor in it (pre 2005). he told me they blow at 430. his is supercharged and he said he was going to leave it at 400 to get the most life out of it and as soon as it blows, he'll get forged internals and up the boost..... my brother said his motor blew the other day lol

wait a ford blew an engine??? no way? LOL

mustang = pure ****....ford = an even bigger ****...fords are so overrated and their modular v8 is even gayer...i'm surprised they are still a company

[glozaeta]

probably right. those super high HP 'stangs pretty much all have custom internals or big blocks. although i've seen a few exceptions.

[Hussain]

lol i hear a lot of people talk badly about ford but keep in mind, Ford is the largest car company in the world. Ford owns Land Rover, owned jaguar, ASTON MARTIN.... Ford could easily get ideas from there other divisions. also, according to top gear "they sell nearly a million of these a year. that's 107 an hour, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week". the F150 is the best selling car IN THE WORLD. if Ford makes that kind of money on the F150 alone, they have enough money to do what ever they want lol

but ya, mustangs are cheap power. they can be amazingly fast for a lot less then most other cars, excellent value. but, they're not the best thing on corners lol actually far from it lol

[TheBourneAltimatum]

lol i hear a lot of people talk badly about ford but keep in mind, Ford is the largest car company in the world. Ford owns Land Rover, owned jaguar, ASTON MARTIN.... Ford could easily get ideas from there other divisions. also, according to top gear "they sell nearly a million of these a year. that's 107 an hour, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week". the F150 is the best selling car IN THE WORLD. if Ford makes that kind of money on the F150 alone, they have enough money to do what ever they want lol

but ya, mustangs are cheap power. they can be amazingly fast for a lot less then most other cars, excellent value. but, they're not the best thing on corners lol actually far from it lol

lol maybe...but they are still facing a growing deficit since 1990 lol....ford is losing money by the day....oh and toyota is now the #1 car seller in the world, #2 is GM, and #3 is ford

[Hussain]

lol ya i heard they've been having a growing deficit.... i don't know, just something about Toyota that i was never really a fan of. maybe thats why i got a Nissan lol only toyota's i liked were if course the Supra and the NEW Tundra, hated the other Tundra.... GM, up until the past couple years has had some of the worst interiors i've ever seen! i mean the interior looks hella square and they all have that stupid *** handle bar lol just now that have curves in the dash board. i like BMW, Nissan, Ford

[shift_mikey]

In regards to the TURBO CVT.

I really don't want to sound like a hater, but it just doesn't work in my mind.

Of course you can boost the car, and the transmission my last 2000....maybe 5000..... maybe 100000 miles!

My concern isn't really the strength of the belt, its the "traction" that the belt has on the pulleys. I'm sure there are slip sensors so if the slip between the engine pulley and transmission pulley, at a calculated ratio, exceeds a certian percentage, the ECU will derate the fuel to the engine.

With the extra power of boost added, I'd be affraid if the computer was not able to control the power, that the pulleys might slip too much and start getting chewed up.

Believe me, i'd be the first to admit i'm wrong, and love to see a 400-500hp cvt powered vehicle with 10+K miles on it!

[Mr. Music]

Yeah, that would probably be the biggest problem. The belt and pulleys are metal, so the pulley(s) and belt would cause a lot of damage if they slip too much. In regard to about when the VQ blows, my brother blew his 2003 Z's motor at 12psi/410whp, stock internals.

[Jeff7181]

does anyone know how Turbo works with CVT? now i know a billion people will say CVT can't take turbo but that's a WRONG myth because it's been done on a CVT murano. my question is how? i mean if it never shifts gears, you wont use the blow off valve and wont that like mess up your engine? unless you keep your RPMs down in "D" so that you dont use the Turbo and then when you want to race or go fast, you use manual mode.... didn't they say Artisan was also working on Turbo for CVT coupes? i wonder if you could just use the stick shifts turbo kit or something.... the 4x4 Murano CVT with turbo was pushing 350 horsepower

A turbo works the same whether it's a CVT, manual, or traditional automatic. Turbochargers have nothing to do with the transmission.

As far as your question about the blow off valve... it helps to know what the purpose of a blow off valve is. It relieves excess intake pressure (boost) when you suddenly reduce the engine speed, either by closing the throttle or reducing engine speed significantly without reducing the load (shifting without the clutch, or a real quick automatic). Under normal full throttle conditions, the waste gate controls boost by adjusting how much exhaust gas enters the turbine. The waste gate is on the exhaust side of the turbo, and the blow off valve is on the intake side.

In short, the waste gate moderates boost and is on the exhaust side... the blow off valve prevents spikes in boost and is on the intake side. Neither have anything to do with the transmission.

[AkAd3MiKs]

man just wait till they make a supercharger for the cvt. turbos are mostly for the standard transmission guys. Im waiting on a supercharger myself since I went with an automatic.

[MagicM]

lol i hear a lot of people talk badly about ford but keep in mind, Ford is the largest car company in the world. Ford owns Land Rover, owned jaguar, ASTON MARTIN.... Ford could easily get ideas from there other divisions. also, according to top gear "they sell nearly a million of these a year. that's 107 an hour, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week". the F150 is the best selling car IN THE WORLD. if Ford makes that kind of money on the F150 alone, they have enough money to do what ever they want lol

but ya, mustangs are cheap power. they can be amazingly fast for a lot less then most other cars, excellent value. but, they're not the best thing on corners lol actually far from it lol

haha, The F150 is the best selling car ONLY in North america, it doesn't make any impact anywhere else. As for land rover jag and aston, they did nothing but loose money for Ford, and as of now jag and LR are owned by TaTa an indian company.As for tons of money? Ford was close to being bankrupt back in 06. Well in the case of how much power the CVT can handle, There is a F1 formula 1 car that has a CVT, and the belt can handle nearly 800+horses. Problem is the nissan one is a cheap mass produced one which will break.

[adidas2go]

A turbo works the same whether it's a CVT, manual, or traditional automatic. Turbochargers have nothing to do with the transmission.

They dont attach physically to a transmission however how do you expect that power to get to the ground? The cvt could or could not handle the pressure. No one knows for sure. Your drivetrain is only as strong as your weakest link. That could be the CVT, or it could be a valve spring, who knows yet until they put this kit on a road car.

[TheBourneAltimatum]

They dont attach physically to a transmission however how do you expect that power to get to the ground? The cvt could or could not handle the pressure. No one knows for sure. Your drivetrain is only as strong as your weakest link. That could be the CVT, or it could be a valve spring, who knows yet until they put this kit on a road car.

i dont think there is anything wrong w/ cvt....its just when everyone hears CVT they automatically assume that its bad and powerless....i think the CVT will more than do the job....again in my research it says all CVT's made proir to 06 had problems becasue the way they are built....the new Xtronic CVT has enough power and durabillity, i just hop the pulleys can keep up

[Jeff7181]

They dont attach physically to a transmission however how do you expect that power to get to the ground? The cvt could or could not handle the pressure. No one knows for sure. Your drivetrain is only as strong as your weakest link. That could be the CVT, or it could be a valve spring, who knows yet until they put this kit on a road car.

Whether increased output comes from a turbo charger, super charger, nitrus oxide, or converting it to run on methanol doesn't matter.

The question was how will a CVT respond to a turbo charger. Well... it will respond exactly the same as it would to any other power adder that adds the same amount of power as the specific turbo setup you're talking about. The transmission doesn't know or care where the power comes from, they're completely unrelated.

Ask yourself this... how will the tires respond to a turbo? Any different than a super charger that adds the same amount of power? Of course not.

[adidas2go]

Whether increased output comes from a turbo charger, super charger, nitrus oxide, or converting it to run on methanol doesn't matter.

The question was how will a CVT respond to a turbo charger. Well... it will respond exactly the same as it would to any other power adder that adds the same amount of power as the specific turbo setup you're talking about. The transmission doesn't know or care where the power comes from, they're completely unrelated.

Ask yourself this... how will the tires respond to a turbo? Any different than a super charger that adds the same amount of power? Of course not.

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[TheBourneAltimatum]

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[Hussain]

....lol

[TheBourneAltimatum]

[shift_mikey]

So maybe some of us need to start calling or e-mailing nissan corporate and see if we can get an engineers spec for how much HP the CVT will take!

LOL and i've got a great deal on a bridge i'd like to sell you

[cuzzbubba420]

[TheBourneAltimatum]

[mcheddadi]

TURRRRRRBOOOOOO!!!!!

[Jeff7181]

useless redundant information

Sorry. I didn't mean to embarass you or make you feel inferior. In the future I'd be happy to send you an email to correct your faulty logic to prevent further damage to your ego if you'd prefer.

[Hussain]

you sound like an ***

[adidas2go]

Sorry. I didn't mean to embarass you or make you feel inferior. In the future I'd be happy to send you an email to correct your faulty logic to prevent further damage to your ego if you'd prefer.

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