Truth about the JFK assassination...

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Obviusly it was a Republican Party Right Wing plot.


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LHO did not look up to Fidel Castro. If you had watched the show this evening you would have noted that LHO was in a conspiracy with another man to ultimately kill Castro.

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LHO may have misaligned the scope himself after he had shot (at) the president. There is no way to prove that the scope was misaligned during the time before and during he had shot round(s) off.

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there was no assasination.....its all just an *IIILLLUUUSSSIIIOOONNN* all you need is a really realistic head exploding manequin

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your an idiot honestly. I hate people coming into a serious thread and just posting a stupid off topic comment.

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Altiman94 wrote:they won't tell us who did it if they even know, I have develped my own theory: I believe it was the mafia that put oswald up to it, as well as the other two gunmen( yes there were 2 more, whether you believe it or not). JFK borrowed money from them to pay for his campaign to get into office in return that he would do favors for them when he got into office. He never delivered on his end of the deal and was subsequenty assignated. his family made their money from bootlegging during the 20's, they had mafia ties going way back.


That is a FALSE urban legend

http://www.mnforum.org/piperma....html

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i don't think there is ANY question that there is a conspiracy. the government locks up the facts for 75 years, i.e. everyone directly involved will be dead by then. the ONE piece of evidence that will prove or disprove the theory of WHERE the bullet came from is misplaced...........JFK's BRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF, i guess they take us all for morons!!!

can anyone answer how oswald renounces his american citizenship, in the height of the cold war, relocates to the soviet union, then returns to the united states (under the guidence of the government), and NOBODY raises an eyebrow!!!!!!!!!!!!! would be the same as a bin laden flunky moving into your neighborhood right now, and everyone (including the government) welcoming him with open arms!!!!!!! WHO WAS HE REALLY, AND WHY WON'T THE GOVERNMENT COME CLEAN??????? LONE NUT MY (A)(S)(S)!!!!!! have to turn your brain off to agree with the warren commission, or even part of it.

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my theory is not an urban myth. It just as disccussed as the other theories that have been presented. We will know what happened in 2020

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Oh and the media is controlled by the government, you actually think that our government would actually reveal the truth of all this "conspiracy" that has been going on for decades through one night of the History channel? My opinon on the matter is that probably our government had something to do with his assasination and is as much as responsible as Martin Luther King Jr's assasination bc of his position of anti-war during the vietnam. and as far as for that mafia theory, remember the US government IS A MAFIA.........

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dude its an urban legend, everyone knows that, and its not your theory

so thats out the window :p

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Altiman94 wrote:LHO may have misaligned the scope himself after he had shot (at) the president. There is no way to prove that the scope was misaligned during the time before and during he had shot round(s) off.


where id the evidence linking LHO and the gun? Where is the evidence that he even shot at the president? Where are the bullets? with todays technology they could easily link bullets from the scene with one fired in a lab from the rifle because every gun leaves a unique mark on bullets. WHERE ARE THEY? i can tell you, destroyed under LBJ's administration. In a goverment that keeps records of EVERYTHING, evidence concerning the most influential assissination our country has ever seen, just dissapears. Oh he was in the same building, he must have assassinated the president.

Not to mention the CIA broke dosens of laws removing the body texas not allowing a highly respected, highly skilled doctor perform the autopsy, soley because it would disprove the lone gunman BS. Not only that, of the 16 doctors that saw JFK's body, every single one of them said their was a large gaping exit wound at the back of the head.

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at this point, you don't think the government knows that the citizens of this country (for the most part) could care less that an elected official was terminated in front of a national audience, and NO ONE was held accountable!!!!!!!! oh yea, oswald was!LOL we care more about who is going cover the point spread on sunday!!!! exactly why it could happen again someday. this thread could be going again 20 years from now, only it'll be called "who was asleep at the wheel when we went into iraq".

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i dont think its quite the same, but a valid point non-the-less.

im sad they didnt play the episod with the french connection. 3 french hit men: one in the storm drain, one behind the fence on the grassy knoll in a police man uniform, and one in an office building. All three were from the same french heroin cartell that was offered the contract.

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rent the ****ing movie

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i cannot see this program seeing as i live in canada and do not get that channel, anyone want to sum up the argument that the program on history channel made??

thanks

(quick off topic point- if you want to learn more about the government control of the media read Noam Chomsky's Necessary Illusions)

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the basic gist of it:

-the fatal head wound came from the front right of kennedy, not from behind and above-3 french hitmen: one in the storm drain, one behind the fence on the grassy knoll in a police man uniform, and one in an office building-assassination supported by lyndon B Johnson and the CIA, the two entities that had the most to lose from JFK being in office-LHO framed then assassinated himself before he could tell his story in court-LBJ and CIA force massive sloppy coverup using the false warren report-over 50 government, medical, and eye witness personel with knowlege that contradicted the warren report died violent deaths within 2 years of the assassination.

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but what did they have to gain from his assassination?

sorry for bugging ya but our history channel was playin a documentary on the yukon territory

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the storm drain theory has been conclusivly disproven.

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yashin wrote:but what did they have to gain from his assassination?

sorry for bugging ya but our history channel was playin a documentary on the yukon territory


JFK wanted to severly restrict the CIA back to what they were origionally intended for: inteligence coordination. This was durring the CIA operated bay of pigs in Cuba.

LBJ was involved in numberous voting scandles and JFK did not choose him to be his running partner. LBJ also wanted to expand the war in vietnam (which he did do) and kennedy had planned to completely end the vietnam war by 1965.

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Cyberkreig wrote:the storm drain theory has been conclusivly disproven.


i didnt know that, where did you see it? ( i could have my information mixed up)

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I dont know about the entire french conspiracy, BUT a special on TV yesterday (hisotry detectives or some junk) went to dealy and tested several theories

they tried to put a person in the storm drain, , they could barely fit a hand camera in there, not to mention any kind of weapon with a scope...beyond that the person could not even see the mockup of the president

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what other theories did they test?

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they tried a second storm drain on the right hand side of the overpass (as you go down elm away from the book depository).. there was a drain there with a shot.. BUT in 1963 there was a very large tree in the way that isnt there anymore.

They also showed with areial photos that there was no drain on the left of that bridge, but there was a shot IF a person could have found cover.

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I'm usually VERY critical of "conspiracy theories", but I'm with J-Spec on this one.

Too many unanswered questions... And I'm still not convinced that an 80-yard crack at a moving target from that angle would have been feasible. Certainly there wasn't time to load and fire 3 rounds accurately, considering a bolt-action, cheap rifle and a skewed scope...

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IT WAS THE CIA!!!! AHHH!!!!!!

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im sketcy on the french connection, not too sure if its real or not, but certaily feasible that they would hire very skilled hitmen from another country that would still blend in with the predominatly white crowd.

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You think you are jokeing. But it is very likely that it was Hoover & LBJ working together(& possibly with the aid of mafia via Jack Ruby) handing orders down to several different branches of our government.

Secret Service - Ordered to break approximatly 15 rules pertaining to the layout of the motorcade

FBI - For the collection & suppression of evidence.

CIA - most likely useful in the planning stage, i.e. locating their scape goat. Xmarine and possibly US-employed spy who had been sent to russian, Lee Harvey Oswald.

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S13GUY wrote:That is a FALSE urban legend

http://www.mnforum.org/piperma....html


It is true, read Amanda Smith's (Joe Kennedy's g'daughter?) "Hostage to Fortune, The Letters of Joseph P. Kennedy."

"He was father, speculator, film producer, bootlegger, chairman (of the SEC and the Federal Maritime Commission), philanderer, philanthropist, kingmaker."

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i don't think we will ever know the truth per say. Every theory there is has some level of evidence to back them up. That's all they are right now are theories.

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i honestly dont care either way, hes dead. just because they "uncover" what really happened dosent change that fact. so why get all pissy about it? its not like once you know the truth youre life is going to be sooo much better. and even if the government did realease solid proof i dont trust the govt anyway


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