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martins_240sx
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Thank you for the backup there bud.I'm not saying either engine is better for what. What I am saying is that this was the engine in my car and I thought it was capable of making this power. I honestly think it can push as much as it's dual cam variant. It just has more accesories...easier. Yes I've hit some snags but that is to come when you take a seldom travelled route. I'm not saying swap to a single, if mine was a dual Cam you guys would be seeing a dual cam build. But another thing that gets on my nerves is people saying that there is no parts for these. I have found everything and more with very little searching, granted alot of research. I am fully confident in this engine. It has hit 30+ psi and over 8000rpms and is still running like a purring cat. Granted it won't be doin that anytime again but it has done it. Not many of these engine builds I've seen can honestly say the wouldn't have a worry about doin that. This engine is built and built strong, it's major downfall at this point is that it isn't fully tuned yet. And anyone who has had to get a car tunes from nothing to something can vouch this is a worry some time. My aem did not come with a base tune. So as my final thought build the engine you want but don't under estimate this engine. So thanks to everyone that respects my work an stay tuned for updates


bikrman2
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bladetech8 wrote:
What the hell are you talking about? The KA24E is more than capable of handing boost as you can see from the man's amazing patience and hard labor. Don't be a d!ck and say s*** like that to discredit the KA24E's potential. He's pushing insane HP/TQ figures and like with any engine you're going to run into a few issues when doing so. Not only that, but most of the troubles he had do deal with came from a retarded p.o.s. speed shop that was doing most of the "early" stages of work for him and royally screwed him over.

I really appreciate all the money, effort, research and testing this man put into his SOHC. Because of his unwavering efforts, I'm not going to the join bandwagon of fanboy's and swap my SOHC for a DOHC.

This build thread is awesome! Not only because he's attempting to push the SOHC KA design to it's limits. Thanks for the inspiration! Good luck w/ the rest of the build man!
I don't think he meant it to be a d!ck. I think he meant it as "holy s*** that i the sickest sohc I've ever seen I wish I could do one!" At least that was my thought and I'm running an SR. I do agree that engine choice is preference. Given skill and desire anything can be done. This is a great build! Ohhh and if he did mean it to be a d!ck then screw him. ppl who hate on something different are either A. ignorant or B. jealous!

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martins_240sx
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looks like its goin to be a definete clutch masters stage 5 from the 280zx 4 puck or 6 is still in the air though. we will see how that goes. also according to greddy i should be running the greddy type r bov. i will retain its current position on the hot pipe since there isnt much space on the cold. and like stated earlier im installing the mishimoto and its fans and my new cage...some parts will be sitting in my nice warm california apartment for a while...damn this cold as hell north carolina cold....its boring here...oh there is one 240 ive seen on this base...all i can say is interesting style

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North Carolina cold?! I wish I had the liberty of that! The warmest it's been here in upstate NY in the past 2 weeks has been like 20 without the wind! lol

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Yeah it's not the coldest place in the world but it definetly sucks gettin up to run 5-8 miles at 4 in the morning. It's about 20 degrees at that time. I'm just glad I'm not doing cold weather training this year. I had pictures of it from last year on one of the previous pages.

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guys ive got a serious problem....i just bought a m62 eaton supercharger from the frontier....so you guys might be thinking...wtf...yes it is what your thinking, i will be twin charged. my inspiration was that damn single came picture in the supercharged ka post...so stand by.

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Guess what came in the mail...It looks to be in good condition, it does need a new coupler but we will see more possibly tonight when i tear it apart.

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Okay I tore it down today. It was very very easy, granted i didnt pull the nose apart all the way and didnt mess with the seals. literly just remove the 8 bolts and seperate the nose from the gear housing and the seperate the gear housing from the charge housing. the impellors come out with the gear housing...but anyway the bearing are good, the blades are good, and all the seals are good, the coupler is "good?" It has some sort of spring loaded coupler that makes it feel bad. I will be replacing it with a solid one. well thats it for now. I packed it up in a box and Im sending it to my house in california

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sooooo...with this supercharger installed on this beast im thininking there is going to be quite a bit of heat, and since the supercharger is going to be manifold mounted my options for cooling the sc are pretty limited. the turbo is going through the intercooler and then to the sc. The sc should be fine running "its" 6-8 psi but when cramming the extra 12-14psi from the turbo into there i just dont think the sc is going to stay cool or cool enough. So my solution is....Im going to install a water/methanol injection kit. this will also raise my octane depending on what I use either acohol or methanol. Its said that it lowers engine temps from 50-200 degrees.

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bikrman2 wrote:
I don't think he meant it to be a d!ck. I think he meant it as "holy s*** that i the sickest sohc I've ever seen I wish I could do one!" At least that was my thought and I'm running an SR. I do agree that engine choice is preference. Given skill and desire anything can be done. This is a great build! Ohhh and if he did mean it to be a d!ck then screw him. ppl who hate on something different are either A. ignorant or B. jealous!
Errmm Thanks Bikrman. It was meant as a holy s*** that is nice and now I go back to my POS.Nawh nawh nawh i'm jealous of that SOHC..

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martins_240sx
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no hard feelings then If you guys like it know then wait till i put the sc and methanol on it....

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sick sick build!! cant wait to see this single slammer finished! DEFF an inspiration to a lot of people!

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thanks man, since i got may car like 5 or 6 years ago people have told me to swap to a de or sr or rb....Obviously you can see what I told them...Anyways its a daily process on this thing, tons and tons of searching and research. Right now im trying to figure out how to keep the temps down around my spark plug wires...I have those kevlar socks for them and i made that heat sheild for the manifold, but that shield didnt do much of anything except get hot as fack. Since the kevlar socks I havent burnt through any wires but they still get very hot. Ive looked into ceramic coating my manifold but i really dont think it is going to cool that area as much as I would like. according to the temp reading there it gets up to around 16++ degrees on the manifold and thats at 3 or 4 dyno passes. Ive looked at some blankets but cant find any that look or seem to function in that range. Hopefully with the methanol/water injection Ill see some lower egt's. Any Ideas are welcomed...As of now though Im leaning towards metalic wire sleeves along with the kevlar socks an routed on top of the valve cover with a possible ceramic coat on the manifold. Also ditching the header wrapped intercooler pipes for the piping jackets from thermaltec. If you cant tell Im worried about heat these days

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You could always drive your car more north than south. Any how i'm in the same proses of full rebuild and having the deadline of april to rebuild and find a place to store the car till next year after BCT and AIT. Loved the build, was my first time seeing it just finished reading all your post.

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thanks man...whats bct ait? funny thing about the north and south is that I live in san Diego and about as far north in cali as you can go...damn near oregon. Thats how I get away with my smog

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small expensive update...I just bought the supercharger rebuild kit, stage 5 280zx clutchmasters 6 puck unsprung clutch kit, mishimoto rad and fans, thermotec intercooler sleeves, devils own water/methanol injection kit. im holding off on purchasing the metal for my sc plate and pulley adapter plate until i make the templates and know for sure how much i need. I get home in 19 days so Ill post pics of everything when i get there. Im taking my car to the hobby shop and going to seem weld the engine bay and various other points and I will be pulling the motor out and taking it to my dining room so that when the shop closes I can go home and continue mocking up everything for the twincharging setup. I have an extra head that im gonna port and polish...mainly the exhaust ports to see if i can get ride of all this back pressure in the head. then rebuild and install. the interior will start to get prepped for the mazworx cage that i still need to reorder...I cant decide on a six or eight point though. the floor boords will be hurculineered like my trunk. We will see how far I get before I go to Bahrain at the end of april...Military calls

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okay sorry no pics yet...10 more days...but i went on another spending spree,

280zx fidanza flywheel 10.5 lbKsport hydro handbrake kit.Ill be doin a write up on the handbrake since no one has seemed to put one up yet. put other than that all my parts are waiting for me...except the damn clutch since fedex wants to be douche bags and send my stuff back to sender....Ive spent way to much money at enjuku in the past 6 months:)

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Read this from start to this point,and this is one of the most inspiring threads ever haha.I'm keeping my single cam,and hopefully gonna turbo or sc it once I get the money and do a lot more research.It's nice to see someone going both routes.Keep up the good work! I'm excited for this thing.

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thanks man, For anyone doin a build like this keep in mind that it is real real easy to get carried away. remember in the begining of this build i only wanted 300 to 350 ponies....now im shooting over a hundred on top of that and still trying to go further...my end goal is to be near 500-550. I have spent far to much money and tons of time and sweat and shivering and enough blood to donate to someone who needed it. but in the end I'll have something that very very few have done. ...On a side note I just bought some new wheels...xxr513...white 16x8 0 offset....thanks dray3000....Ill post pics up when i get home this evening, right now im stuck in the atlanta airport....Its time to start this ka24ert build first thing in the morning, begining with the sc rebuild and template mock up. There will be pictures out the butt, so stand by.......

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Bring em on!

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martins_240sx
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this is what i got done today....shaved this lipin the processThe sc templateand the spare head dissasembled and getting ready to be port and polished.Notice some parts in the background...flywheel on the counter, rims, meth kit in the box...stand by for tomorrows pics.

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Your build is still inspiring. This thread is the only reason why I'm still contemplating as to whether or not I should just build and boost my sohc instead of hopping on the SR wagon.

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martins_240sx
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so I got some bad news....took the hatch out for a test drive and all i can say about that was wow....something went wrong no fans on and 28 psi....but then I returned and found chocolate milk on the dipstick...not sure what happened yet but one thing is for sure that that was the last driving until next dyno sessions....So now I have a valid excuse to pull the motor and rebuild it in my dining room...and later tonight ill post pics of my porting progress

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I started on my exhaust side firsti kinda started to polish the runner but ill do it again when im done with all the exhaust ports...this takes forever...

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okay so i finished the exhaust side and the intake side....the #1 cylinder intake isnt even close to the same size as the other 3.. like an 1/8inch difference all the way around....almost finished....got to ruffin up the intake a bit

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okay i come back from a month in the field and the website changes.....is there a tutorial of some sort...took me 15 minutes to find my own page????
anyways...im pulling my engine friday and will begin the mock up soon following..

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martins_240sx wrote:okay i come back from a month in the field and the website changes.....is there a tutorial of some sort...took me 15 minutes to find my own page????
anyways...im pulling my engine friday and will begin the mock up soon following..
Dude you posted your built thread in the wrong forum, see this is the technical forum it's just to help ppl with their technical issues. you should repost it to the 240sx general forum that's where most of the build threads are here's the link 240sx-180sx-silvia-forum.html Otherwise you won't have that many ppl checking your built out,or if you don't want to repost the whole thing just create a new thread with the link to your built on the 240sx general forum. Seriously move your thread so more ppl admire the dedication and work you've put on your sohc that most ppl just dump for the sr20. Anyways i'm digging your build man is freaking awesome :mike you definitely are unique no one can't top you, because you took a way different approach than any other S owner. Keep up man i'll stay tune.

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This thread was in the 240 general section.Apparently the moderators moved it to the tech section.

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yes it started in general and now its in technical...that was like almost 2 yrs ago...i think. anyways the engine is getting pulled tomorrow and depending how much time is left after that i may start seem welding the engine bay and front clip. thats tomorrows agenda. saturdays is fully dedicated to the welding. after hours im gonna reassemble the supercharger and start mocking up all the brackets and plate positioning. I got a 4 day weekend that starts tomorrow and i dont plan on wasting it. I also have to reorganize many tiny components in the bay since im moving the powersteering pump and adding the methanol injection and sc. I have a plan on how i want the bay to look and im sure noone will be dissapointed on the outcome. on a side note im also helping a buddy of mine throw in an rb25 this weekend. as always ill be posting my pics....Oh and it looks like true pig build 2 (ls1)is put on hold indefinetly. I may have sold my coupe. when i blew the head on this one I said F&%K it and bought a new truck to tow it around. Im getting a great deal for it so no worries on my side.

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also mods can you mov this to the general section


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