Transmission getting replaced...new clutch ordered

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fbpem1 wrote:That is actually proprietary information sir.
Too bad. It could make for a good discussion. However, my point was simply that one shouldn't simply ask anyone to trust someone else simply because of their position/profession. If one is going to use their experience and knowledge, their observations should be shared if they want to make a good point.
fbpem1 wrote:is this better?

A VQ35 with the oil consumption issue smokes all the time not only on deceleration which would not be attributed to issue good old sbd stated.
It is better, but its still a run-on sentence. Ultimately, I agree with you though. But its obvious its not something as simple as a valve stem seal if Corporate is approving motor replacements.

Interestingly, my buddy has/had a 350Z (Not sure if he sold it yet) that has an oil burning problem. Oddly, it consumes more oil than my turbo with a leaky seal ever did, but you can't smell burnt oil or see any smoke. He even had me drive it for a week while he was out on his honeymoon to see if I notice anything. I literally saw it consume a quart within that week.
fbpem1 wrote:Also everyone don't forget i'm a cunsumer as well maybe I'm different becuase i see it from the other side all day long and customers making stinks about things they really shouldn't and not taking any responsability for thier actions with the vehicle. So maybe i did jump to a conclusion maybe i didn't with Joe, but i still could be right =P i don't know no one does except him if he abuses the car. Personally i don't care i'll put a trans in it for him and probably not charge him for removing the aftermarket exhaust and only 1 labor hour to index the new flywheel and clutch install on top of no payment. Like me don't like me whatever, i'm good at what i do and i'm very fair someone can back me up on that i'm sure.
This is true in any profession. But at the same time those in the profession can sometimes each of their customers are individuals. I had to fight the same type of feeling everyday when I was a claims adjuster. It was essential to my job in fact, otherwise I'd end up with poorly handled investigations and weak arguments if my case was subjected to arbitration or trial.

Curious, what exactly has to be indexed? I understand there is a hall effect sensor to measure engine speed/position or something built into the flywheel, but its not indexed during the manufacturing process with a pin or something?
fbpem1 wrote:I do work with people actually i have an excellent relationship with ALL of my customers no matter who they are, good old Mr. Steve can vouch for that. I'm a nice guy you just DO NOT get me that's all.
Who and what you are to someone else is purely based on what that person perceives. Kind of like the point I made above, telling us who you are means nothing. The perception of you will likely be based on what people actually percieve. Saying we don't get you changes nothing. You can maintain your personality and that's fine (so long as you stay within the rules of the forum). But don't expect people to have a great opinion of you if everything you say tends to piss people off. By the way, the people don't get me comment sounds horribly emo.
fbpem1 wrote:Now for SBD, NO i DO NOT like him or what he does I'm sure that's been made clear time and time again, oh well can't like everyone. Although with what your doing I'm beginning to not like you as well reason being is your getting NOTHING from anything i post up here and if you look between those "pompous" comments there's a plethora of information there your looking right past that to a few things i have said. If you want to be that way fine whatever just don't respond at all go away no skin off of my back at all.
Plethora of info? You still haven't told us what is causing the oil consumption.
fbpem1 wrote:Joe, I mean all i ask is that people look on the other side of the fence with issues like these, I apologize for the customer bashing which wasn't really bashing just had a streak of "not my falters" one guy has had 3 transmissions, 2 motors, and now he blew his rear I'm done with it.
I imagine regardless of if its warranty work or not, you have to be making something for doing the work. Would you rather he not bring you the work?
fbpem1 wrote:Also one more thing, for those who think my typing and spelling skills are sub par I type extremely fast and could care less about spelling spell check doesn't work here on my browser get over it
We don't generally hound people for grammar so long as it is reasonably understandable. We are not here to write college papers. Errors occur. I'm definitely not without spelling and grammatical errors. The issue I brought up was simply that I didn't understand the sentence. I could read it two ways. It happens. Which is why I asked you to clarify it. No harm no foul.


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C-Kwik wrote:We don't generally hound people for grammar so long as it is reasonably understandable. We are not here to write college papers. Errors occur. I'm definitely not without spelling and grammatical errors. The issue I brought up was simply that I didn't understand the sentence. I could read it two ways. It happens. Which is why I asked you to clarify it. No harm no foul.
that was not directed at you at all he knows who he is.
C-Kwik wrote:Curious, what exactly has to be indexed? I understand there is a hall effect sensor to measure engine speed/position or something built into the flywheel, but its not indexed during the manufacturing process with a pin or something?
to install a flywheel on a VQ, there is a pin on the crankshaft if it is not installed where the corresponding hole is on the flywheel the car will not start.
C-Kwik wrote:Who and what you are to someone else is purely based on what that person perceives. Kind of like the point I made above, telling us who you are means nothing. The perception of you will likely be based on what people actually percieve. Saying we don't get you changes nothing. You can maintain your personality and that's fine (so long as you stay within the rules of the forum). But don't expect people to have a great opinion of you if everything you say tends to piss people off. By the way, the people don't get me comment sounds horribly emo.
that person can think what he wants i'm just saying, if you have never meet me at all your probably not going to understand my sense of humor which is horrifically twisted and most jokes are made in that fashion. The YOU don't get me (not people don't get me) isn't an emo statement as those c*nts can diaf, seriously its the internet lets take all comments seriously. Although for me not liking SBD thats fact thats a serious comment

Also run on sentence oh you caught me i do that a lot it happens, to many thoughts so little periods....................................... that should have me caught up for the post

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fbpem1 wrote:I am saying your reading emotion into it because you don't know me and don't know how i am, pompous *** comments? sorry buddy I'm not pompous at all.

I do work with people actually i have an excellent relationship with ALL of my customers no matter who they are, good old Mr. Steve can vouch for that. I'm a nice guy you just DO NOT get me that's all.

Joe, I mean all i ask is that people look on the other side of the fence with issues like these, I apologize for the customer bashing which wasn't really bashing just had a streak of "not my falters" one guy has had 3 transmissions, 2 motors, and now he blew his rear I'm done with it.

Modified by fbpem1 at 5:04 PM 12/5/2008
These few sentenses just crossing each other. First you keep saying you don't get emotional then you loosing it because one of your costumer.

Then you come here and try to take it out on some of us. So what if you have to replace a trani. Isn't it in your job description? Don't forget you are a tech nothing less nothing more. Glad you are not a costumer relation ship guy at the dealer. Otherwise that dealership would go bankrupcy really soon. LOL

Speak when you're angry, and you'll make the best speech you'll ever regret.

I don't really participate in any of the thread you in due to the fact most ends up just like this. I am sure this thread s going to get locked soon too. The reason because you can't say sorry you are right and walk away. Either you come back or do it in another thread.

I can see one of the 2 things happened/happening to you. Either your wife wears the pants and you can't say anything at home other then you are right honey. Or it comes from your childhood Father mother maybe both.

As I said it before to you Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.
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are you a good customer?

clutch is a wear item sorry no clutch for you.

This is the kind of attitude i HATE i think its appauling that customers think everything is the factorys fault YOU have to take SOME responsibility for actions taken with the car and what you have done with it and to it. If you can't do that you need to grow up.

/rant.
That is anger my friend you even put some of the words in capital letters as you yelling it out loud.

You can keep telling you don't bring emotion in this but we all know this is not true.

If your job bothers you so much why not just pick another job or just deal with it. Your service manager assign you a job to do it. Can't see the problem with it. I think that's why you get paid. Correct me if I am wrong. Would not be the first time.

Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

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zozo there are so many things wrong with what you just said in every way shape or form, i will tell you this for certain though your just plain wrong about everything you just wrote. Thanks for nothing all of you i try to help and this is what it gets, no other forum i am on people are this sensitive. I'm gonna head on back to those. You all have fun here,

g_whizz you got an email.

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Glad to hear that. I am wrong so many times. Nothing wrong with that. I can admit it.The decision is yours to go whereever you go. All I can say is good luck to you.Which forum do you go g35driver,honda-tech, mazda or all? Anyways good luck.

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C-Kwik wrote:
Plethora of info? You still haven't told us what is causing the oil consumption.

......... Which is why I asked you to clarify it. No harm no foul.
Well I just read thru 2 pages looking for the answer on oil consumption.

I've lived with my Gs oil consumption since day one. I changed my oil for the 23rd time day after Thanksgiving with about 4k miles since the previous oil change. It was a little over 1 qt low but not near the L mark on the dipstick. This is a considerable improvement over the 1 qt per 1000mi that my G used when new. The dealer did the oil consumption test shortly after the TSB came out but it only used 12mm of oil in 3k miles and did not qualify for a free engine replacement.

The service rep and the mechanic did mention the possible consumption issue when downshifting but I have a hard time accepting that? I do not abuse my vehicle and don't think my tach has ever seen over 5k rpm

I do a lot of downshifting to brake my vehicle which will turn 74k miles next week on the original brakes and clutch.

I love mine almost as much as Jacko loves his except I don't sleep with mine.

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Dear Telcoman:

Thats right! I love the G. Em......would you like for me to love your G for you, i mean take her to 6K or 7K rpm and then sleep with her? I would love to be of service to her. What do you say?

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Guys...keep the personal attacks out of the discussion.


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There certainly is a wealth of information and I wanted to thank everyone for their contributions.

As a result of reading and rereading this thread I am thinking that my direction is leaning towards getting an Exedy stage one organic clutch kit which is app $400. Therefore, it seems like a good idea to use an Exedy choromoly flywheel. While kinda expensive @$600 and a tad heavier (19 lbs)than some of the cheaper aluminum flywheels (14lbs) it sounds like it will last longer.

I just have boltons with no plans to go FI so the stage one should be enough. Any thoughts? will the heaver fly

just an FYI....I did the MREV2+ 5/16 spacer and a week later had an Unorthodox lightweight(not underdrive) crank pully installed and it totally transformed the car. Unleashing the BEAST.....lokking forward to the benefits of a lightweight flywheel!
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telcoman wrote:
Well I just read thru 2 pages looking for the answer on oil consumption.

I've lived with my Gs oil consumption since day one. I changed my oil for the 23rd time day after Thanksgiving with about 4k miles since the previous oil change. It was a little over 1 qt low but not near the L mark on the dipstick. This is a considerable improvement over the 1 qt per 1000mi that my G used when new. The dealer did the oil consumption test shortly after the TSB came out but it only used 12mm of oil in 3k miles and did not qualify for a free engine replacement.

The service rep and the mechanic did mention the possible consumption issue when downshifting but I have a hard time accepting that? I do not abuse my vehicle and don't think my tach has ever seen over 5k rpm

I do a lot of downshifting to brake my vehicle which will turn 74k miles next week on the original brakes and clutch.

I love mine almost as much as Jacko loves his except I don't sleep with mine.

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I would stop using the engine to slow down...that's what brakes are for. I'd rather cause wear and tear on my brakes then my transmission.

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If I could win an award for having the most people hate me, I think I'd have quite a few awards

I'm going to call the dealership up again on the oil consumption thing. I have a new engine, but every time I do an oil change, there's oil loss. When the dealer does it, there isn't (supposedly). I buy the Mobil 1 in the 5 qt bottles and pour the whole thing in. Am I missing something? The FSM states that 5qts are to be used during an oil change.

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He probably hates me too. Oh well.

You sohuld be able to see the oil consuption when you check the oil. Maybe mark the oil level on the stick.

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I don't hate you, rather, I like you.

Same for everyone on here.

It's not about who's right, it's about opinions, discussions, nissans, and infinities.

I'm with Jacko, keep it coming, I'm learning a lot from these forums, keep up the good work!

We all have our own experiences, opinions, and situations to draw from, this should be a melting pot of ideas that we can all benefit from. No need to be bashing each other, we can all try anyway. lol "can't we all just get along?

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Nate:

I doubt anyone hates you. We all have to learn to get along. Anyway, if you are loosing between 0.25 to 0.5 quarts each oil change, then that is perfectly normal for the VQ engine. I usually loose less than 0.25 of a quart. In fact, that loss has even reduced just a little more since I started using Royal Purple. Of course, I change my oil at or less than 3,000 miles.


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I've changed my oil within 100 miles of the recommended change interval since I got the new engine.

I, honestly, can't read the dipstick and tell you how much is missing. I only know that the dipstick was close to or on the H mark when I did the oil change and now it's below the halfway mark between H and L.

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When I change my oil... I have to top it up with 2-3 quarts between changes.

I always change my oil at 5000km. no more no less... and keep a good eye on it as well.

I raced my baby, I think it took it's toll on the G.... lol

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New clutch/flywheel installed....

http://forums.g35club.org/zerothread/389596

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Jacko3 wrote:I don't give a rats behind how, what, who, or when it is said. All I know is that I am learning a heck of a lot from everybody regardless of their experience and state in life. This thread is like school for me and I love learning. So, guys, keep the discussion coming along in any manner and way you deem fit. I am the one benefitting from it, as i am the one learning.

Jacko loves deep discussions as we have on this thread.
i with you on this... i wish i knew about car forums when i had my jeep... i would of learned so much quicker... i had to learn by trail and MY error on how to keep my jeep running... as it is past 230k miles now and going strong... i have learned so much about the g35 reading these arguments and posts. I want to tell all of yall thanks for arguing about cars 24/7

i read almost all the posts even if it has nothing to do with my g35x, and lend my hand in helping with anything i can help with. In my day job im an electronics/software engineer, but i grew up doing autobody and intermediate mechanic work so i love any and all engineering conversations... especially about cars

Thanks NICO!

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Sentientbydesign wrote:If I could win an award for having the most people hate me, I think I'd have quite a few awards

I'm going to call the dealership up again on the oil consumption thing. I have a new engine, but every time I do an oil change, there's oil loss. When the dealer does it, there isn't (supposedly). I buy the Mobil 1 in the 5 qt bottles and pour the whole thing in. Am I missing something? The FSM states that 5qts are to be used during an oil change.
Please tell me you don't consider this a good thing...

After you put the 5qt in and idle the engine for a little bit are you checking the oil level?


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