tramsmission failed 100k

[MNVERT]

hi im new here i just bought a vert for 4k from a old guy the car is in good shape no rust for a minnesota car thats almost impossible to find, any ways i havent owned the car for even a month and the transmission failed on me yesturday i had it towed to a guys garage that i know and he said that the transmission for the vert is shot and that it needs a new one he said that automatic transmission is hard to find and it might be around 1200 for the transmission alone not including labor . is this true for the cost of a replacement auto transmission for the vert? my second question is could it be due to a bad transmission computer in the vert? i was driving the car with my mom and we was going up a hill and the transmission just slipped and wont go back into gear i parked the car and try putting it back in drive and it still wont go back in i than put it in first gear , 2nd gear , than reverse and it still wont go back in gear, put it does go in park tho , please help me this has cause a big headache i dont have 1200 to spend on a new auto transmission not even including labor.

[TweeKeer]

hi im new here i just bought a vert for 4k from a old guy the car is in good shape no rust for a minnesota car thats almost impossible to find, any ways i havent owned the car for even a month and the transmission failed on me yesturday i had it towed to a guys garage that i know and he said that the transmission for the vert is shot and that it needs a new one he said that automatic transmission is hard to find and it might be around 1200 for the transmission alone not including labor . is this true for the cost of a replacement auto transmission for the vert? my second question is could it be due to a bad transmission computer in the vert? i was driving the car with my mom and we was going up a hill and the transmission just slipped and wont go back into gear i parked the car and try putting it back in drive and it still wont go back in i than put it in first gear , 2nd gear , than reverse and it still wont go back in gear, put it does go in park tho , please help me this has cause a big headache i dont have 1200 to spend on a new auto transmission not even including labor.

what's a vert?

[proxim2020]

A 240sx? If so you've stumbled onto the wrong forum

[MNVERT]

240sx vert= convertible

[proxim2020]

You posted in the Versa forum. You're looking for the homies here:

zeroforum/148

[Ever Victorious]

Thread moved.

[Loki]

Heh...

But yea. Verts are basically 240 Coupes with reinforced frames and a top. From what I've heard around the forums, you can just swap in a transmission from any S13 (89-94) 240SX, and it's really not that hard to find. Typically, a transmission may range from 300-500 without including labor. Check your junk yards. Installed, a new 240 transmission might be about 800 or so, hence why it's nice to do it yourself. This may be a good time to just switch to a 5 Speed MT, if that's your thing.

Heck, I even got a busted KA motor with 5 speed transmission for fifty bucks.

[ishkabibble]

If the transmission is shot, you can find an auto 240SX transmission for next to nothing. Nobody wants them. Check the classified section of forums, craigslist, post a "want to buy" ad, etc. Also call around to used import parts places.

[madcowvert]

i have had automatic transmissions that i cant get out of my house for free.. lol

IMO i think you should do a 5 speed swap the vert's transmissions are very weak and well known to go bad and die. and even a 5spd tranmission is not that much $150- $250. if you were going to pay 1200 for just a transmission ! with that money you could do a 5spd swap and probelly still have money left over.

[MNVERT]

yea i want a 5spd swap i just talked to the guy that has my car he now wants 1300+ tax for a used auto transmission with unknown mileage on it i told him that i want the 5 spd swap and he told me that its to much of a headache to do the swap i told him that im willing to spend 900 for the swap and he doesnt seem like hes interested in doing it . hes trying to say all this bs aboutt the manual swap like he just wants a grip for teh swap.. anyone i minnesota know how to do the swap please let me know. and i need some opinions should i just do the whole SR swap or just keep the KA and slap the manual on it and if i went with the SR swap would it cost alot more for the auto to maual swap or less cause the SR comes with the manual transmission?

[Loki]

I think an SR costs about 1900 shipped, but I don't know if that included a transmission. And I would just get your car back and avoid that guy, he's just trying to rip you off it sounds. I know there's a How-To 5 speed swap in the tech articles, so it can't be such a pain that a mechanic wouldn't want to do it.

[Eikon]

Get your car back from the guy who's got it now. He may not be intentionally ripping you off.. but he is ripping you off.. Do not spend more than a couple hundred dollars for a replacement automatic trans in your convertible.

First off... what's the problem with the trans? Does it not shift?Read this thread (even though it's long) and see if it applies and fixes your problem... zerothread?id=96505

Now... if your trans really did blow a gear or something and it needs to be replaced.. You have to decide what to do.. 1.) Replace auto trans.2.) 5 spd swap.3.) motor and trans swap.

You should be able to find a new auto trans for a couple hundred max.. Should be no more than 3 hours max to swap a new trans in.. so like $250 for labor at a professional swap.

You should be able to compile the 5 spd trans and all the needed parts for $600 to $700 including a new clutch set. Install is not too difficult for someone with some tools and general knowledge.

My brother has a 5 spd swap minus a few parts (transmission bolts, clutch, etc..) that he would sell.. joel.blackman (at) gmail.com He lives in Green Bay, but get's over to the La Crosse area once a month for army drills..

You can always do an SR swap if you want.. but expect it to be closer to $3k by the time your done with it.

Let us know if you have more questions.... always happy to help.

[MNVERT]

Get your car back from the guy who's got it now. He may not be intentionally ripping you off.. but he is ripping you off.. Do not spend more than a couple hundred dollars for a replacement automatic trans in your convertible.

First off... what's the problem with the trans? Does it not shift?Read this thread (even though it's long) and see if it applies and fixes your problem... zerothread?id=96505

Now... if your trans really did blow a gear or something and it needs to be replaced.. You have to decide what to do.. 1.) Replace auto trans.2.) 5 spd swap.3.) motor and trans swap.

You should be able to find a new auto trans for a couple hundred max.. Should be no more than 3 hours max to swap a new trans in.. so like $250 for labor at a professional swap.

You should be able to compile the 5 spd trans and all the needed parts for $600 to $700 including a new clutch set. Install is not too difficult for someone with some tools and general knowledge.

My brother has a 5 spd swap minus a few parts (transmission bolts, clutch, etc..) that he would sell.. joel.blackman (at) gmail.com He lives in Green Bay, but get's over to the La Crosse area once a month for army drills..

You can always do an SR swap if you want.. but expect it to be closer to $3k by the time your done with it.

Let us know if you have more questions.... always happy to help.

i found a shop in my city called RS MOTORS a few guys on this forum said that hes a good guy to talk to and that hes done several sr swaps before in the past i got a qoute for the auto to manual swap $600 for labors minus the parts he said he got a transmission laying around for $350 but he sell it for $300 and that i needed to find the drive shaft, master clyinder, slave cylinder, clutch pedal,bolts etc.. so im guessing he wants around 1100-1200 for the swap including parts, than i got a qoute from him for a black top sr swap labor and parts at a rough $4700 isnt that a lil to much for a sr swap?

[Eikon]

i found a shop in my city called RS MOTORS a few guys on this forum said that hes a good guy to talk to and that hes done several sr swaps before in the past i got a qoute for the auto to manual swap $600 for labors minus the parts he said he got a transmission laying around for $350 but he sell it for $300 and that i needed to find the drive shaft, master clyinder, slave cylinder, clutch pedal,bolts etc.. so im guessing he wants around 1100-1200 for the swap including parts, than i got a qoute from him for a black top sr swap labor and parts at a rough $4700 isnt that a lil to much for a sr swap?

$1200 for a 5 spd swap with labor isn't too bad. I wouldn't feel bad about that..

$4700 sounds pretty high for an SR swap.. but it depends on the parts that are included..

[MNVERT]

$1200 for a 5 spd swap with labor isn't too bad. I wouldn't feel bad about that..

$4700 sounds pretty high for an SR swap.. but it depends on the parts that are included..

i was hoping it would be more around 900-1000.

[wirelessalpha]

A five speed swap shouldnt cost more than $500 labor.

transmission's go for about 200-$400

The other misc parts you can get on ebay or on nico for another 100-200

[Loki]

Out of curiosity, is the flywheel considered part of the transmission? I'm taking an engine/transmission I got apart, and I got to the flywheel and can't crack the six bolts connecting it to the engine.

[nismofly]

they take a ton of effort

i had to heat mine and impact them for like 10 mins each before they came off....then again i was doing this while the car was on jackstands, might be easier if its on a lift

[ishkabibble]

Out of curiosity, is the flywheel considered part of the transmission? I'm taking an engine/transmission I got apart, and I got to the flywheel and can't crack the six bolts connecting it to the engine.

Are you using a breaker bar with a piece of pipe over it? You need serious leverage to free bolts that are really torqued down.

[MNVERT]

yea the trany he wants to sell me dont come with a flywheel or clutch for 300 is that kinda steep u think?

[Loki]

That's what I was going to do as soon as I found a pipe Problem is, trying to break them turns the pistons, so I can't get leverage. I should put the spark plugs back in for compression, shouldn't I?

[ishkabibble]

Typically, you need to brace the flywheel so it doesn't turn. You can probably overcome the compression on the motor even with the plugs in. I'm not positive about that since I've never taken a Nissan flywheel off, but it was pretty easy to turn high compression VW motors and stock GM motors with a breaker bar and pipe.

$300 is pretty steep for a bare transmission. Powerzamcam in NJ does the complete 5 spd swap for something like $800 including labor.

[nismofly]

the engine turning problem is why i borrowed my neighbors electric impact, that way youre not torquing so youre not turning the engine

[MNVERT]

Typically, you need to brace the flywheel so it doesn't turn. You can probably overcome the compression on the motor even with the plugs in. I'm not positive about that since I've never taken a Nissan flywheel off, but it was pretty easy to turn high compression VW motors and stock GM motors with a breaker bar and pipe.

$300 is pretty steep for a bare transmission. Powerzamcam in NJ does the complete 5 spd swap for something like $800 including labor.

that is such a good price man i wished i lived in that state im gonna ask why he charge so much for his work here maybe if i tell him others pricess he would go less on my swap.

[Eikon]

Yes.. impact guns are very easy to get those flywheel bolts.. Otherwise you have to rely on very quick movements.. Rather than tightening your grip and using slow strong muscles.. you have to make quick jabs at it.

[MNVERT]

anyone here got a good conditioned 5speed transmission for sale for the manual swap?

[Eikon]

My brother has a 5 spd swap minus a few parts (transmission bolts, clutch, etc..) that he would sell.. joel.blackman (at) gmail.com He lives in Green Bay, but get's over to the La Crosse, WI area once a month for army drills..

[MNVERT]

cool thanks man..

[MNVERT]

iight i found a guy with the following parts clutch pedal

master and slave cylinder

transmission mount

transmission cross brace i think he means cross member not sure what do u guys think?

flywheel (0EM) wheel to be resufrace tho he said it cost like 10 bucks

fluid lines

all this for $250

im trying to get him to throw in the ecu, brake pedal and drive shaft with the deal.. let me know what u guys think. if its a good deal or not.

[GoinTopless240]

Yes.. impact guns are very easy to get those flywheel bolts.. Otherwise you have to rely on very quick movements.. Rather than tightening your grip and using slow strong muscles.. you have to make quick jabs at it.

Aww com'on you guys... haven't you heard of the poor man's impact... breaker bar and a small sledge..lol.. busted many bolts off old cars that way.. of course I'm spoiled as I got older.. air tools are niiiiccceee.. plus I'm old and need all the help I can get..lol