Trade offer, let me know what you think

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Trade offers

1991 Acura NSX (high miles, needs some TLC)
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70%
1992 Nissan Skyline R32 GTR, stock with 100K miles
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both would be great cars to own,

but i would go nsx all the way....


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i really like the s13 you have built but, if your minds made up already about aquiring a different vehicle i'd go with the nsx.
the skyline is an amazing car it really is but youll have paper work headaches in the future unless you are extremely lucky. instead i would part with the nissan camp and venture into honda territory with the nsx, it too is an amazing automobile, they look beautiful and there are as many options for them as the skyline (arguable) build wise, looks as well as performance.
plus its already black, mid engine and rwd and they sound phenomenal at high rpm passing on the highway (saw and heard one, once...it was a wonderful thing! lol)

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I would think the NSX would be worth more in the end. Plus they are pure Badass.

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I'd say go for the NSX...

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That video is a NSX type S vs. a R33. Not really a perfect comparison.... And I'm not so sure about that start.. I have a hard time believing the AWD Skyline wouldn't come out of a dig a little quicker than the RWD NSX. But I could be wrong...

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Eh, it was the first video of just the two cars I found, I wasn't trying to say NSX is Faster.

I know one of the fastest cars on Top Gear was a privately owned and built R32.
I want both of these cars in this video though.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-eYgPpudYw[/youtube]

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why bother comparing them? one is awd twin turbo i6...other is rwd mid engine v6-na...
two very differnt vehicles...both can handle well, be stupid fast and look great. but its still apples and oranges, the only question needed answered is what does the OP want to eat next.

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We'll see

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I'd seriously go cop that Skyline... :werd:

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Skylines are grey-market, and there really isn't any way around them. With the last of the importers being kicked in the junk by the Fed, and state registrations being used to track down any and all skylines to be SEIZED by the same Fed WITHOUT compensation, it's a massive crap shoot. If you wanted to buy it, not register it, and keep in garaged the whole time, I'd say go for it. Since they are no longer allowed to stay for any significant length of time in the US even for race only or race/show purposes, it's extremely risky, and opens you up to being out that beautiful monster you have, plus anything put into for the skyline.
GO FOR THE NSX.
Not to say that I wouldn't PREFER a skyline, but since we're in the US, we just have to accept that until the laws change, a skyline is simply beyond the reach of us mere mortals. Write your congressmen.

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i think your asking price is more than the value of those 2 cars.

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I would keep yours... its such a rare car and the money and time you have into it you could never get back out.

Side Note... Does anyone have any proof/documentation of this whole "taking your skyline away by the feds whitout compensation" thing. I see them all the time in shows and would have a hard time believing all these guys are showing these cars all over the place when there is apparently a huge risk of them being taken away. Pretty sure the only problem you'll have is getting it licensed for the street. Its not a nuclear weapon...

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http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/the-fa ... es-1.html
Great read for anyone considering any flavor of skyline.

For those in the "Too long, didn't read" category, here are the important bullet points:
-Cars less that 25 years old must be approved by the NHTSA and brought to US spec within 120 days by a RI (Registered Importer).
-Since the Motorex scandal, there is currently no information published on HOW to bring a skyline into US spec.
-The Federal Government issues licenses to be a RI, and currently there is only 1, JK Technologies, and that only applies to R33s
-Show only cars are only allowed 2500 miles a year, and only with the original engine. This is very closely tracked.
-While importing bodies without drivetrains, and importing drivetrains alone is legal, assembling them in the US is not, and is a violation of Federal law.
-Some states will allow registration of a re-assembled skyline as a "kit car" but this is once again a violation of federal law.
-very few insurance companies will insure these vehicles, and once you file a claim, they have to do a DOT check. Once this DOT check comes back, they reserve the right to deny payment due to violation of law.
-Once your skyline is registered with your state, Import and Customs (ICE) can use these databases to track and seize your car. Since possession of this vehicle is a violation of federal law, they are not required to compensate you. In fact, depending on the circumstances, you might be in for a hefty penalty.

In summary, the only "legal" skylines available in the US are R33s, properly prepped by either Motorex or JK Technologies, and will cost more than a lot of us make in a year. Any skyline purchase has to be closely looked at, preferably by a lawyer familiar with vehicle import law.

Once again, go with the NSX.

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NSX

i wouldnt touch a skyline in the US.... unless its a hako and old enough u can get around the legal stuff.... the way the green s*** is going, its not worth the risk.

ive driven an NSX, they are amazing cars stock. plus you get money on top which could be a start on your parts.

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Either car would be great to have...Both are exotic, rare, and unique so you really can't go wrong. Plus its always fun to start a new project. Personally I would go for the NSX because I like the way they look

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Going for the NSX. Trade, keeping my seats, wheels, wideband, and some cash on top. I have about 4K to start ordering parts, and I expect another 5K for my tax return.

To build and turbo charge I am looking at about 12K. Then wheels and suspension in the future... need slamming and legit wheels, then big brakes and thats all.

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Can I drive it in Carlisle? I've never even sat in a NSX before and I would love to experience one!

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If its drivable... I plan on starting this turbo build around spring so it may be down about then... if not sure.

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OutToWinPAHC wrote:Going for the NSX. Trade, keeping my seats, wheels, wideband, and some cash on top. I have about 4K to start ordering parts, and I expect another 5K for my tax return.

To build and turbo charge I am looking at about 12K. Then wheels and suspension in the future... need slamming and legit wheels, then big brakes and thats all.

sounds like a sweet deal, no matter what you do to a 240sx, its still a 240sx and just isnt as sexy as an NSX. With that trade, sounds like you got a fair price for your car and upgraded to a potentially better one.

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tought choice..but i would go NSX!

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Definitely the right choice going with the NSX. Its always been revered as one of the best handling cars ever made, plus it looks, well like an NSX :dblthumb:

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I love NSX's too but if it were me, I'd be making a mistake. Believe me, I've been there. Good luck with it and be sure to tell the new owner to get on these boards! :dblthumb:

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OutToWinPAHC wrote:Going for the NSX. Trade, keeping my seats, wheels, wideband, and some cash on top. I have about 4K to start ordering parts, and I expect another 5K for my tax return.

To build and turbo charge I am looking at about 12K. Then wheels and suspension in the future... need slamming and legit wheels, then big brakes and thats all.

Too. Freakin. Cool.

I would trade my car for an NSX in a heartbeat.

Do the front end parts from the newer NSX (fixed headlights) bolt right on? That would be my first body mod.

Can't wait to see pics and a build thread. I know you'll build her up right :woot:

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Probably do... but seeing the factory side skirts are 2500 a pair, I'm sure converting the front end is 5000+ So no not happening.

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Good choice. I love the skylines as well and had it been an r34 I don't know if I could have passed even knowing the legality nightmare. That being said the NSX is on the list of cars I will own before I die. Hard to beat Honda reliability with the looks and performance to go along with it.

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Good call.

You and I both know that just because you put $30K in a car, it's NEVER worth that.... not even HALF that.

When I sell Project Vert (and I will soon), I'll either have to accept far less than $30K for it, or trade it for something equally "overbuilt and undervalued".

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Option B ftw...

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Honestly guys, I don't know anyone that builds the hell out of a car 'expecting' to make a profit. Hey, if you do, good for you! But that kind of impersonal rational is for TV shows and flippers. I build because I love the car and the desire to express myself through it ... in other words, for the fun of it! Yeah, I love cars ... I become personally attached at times. Hmm, maybe it really IS an extension of my ... uh, nevermind.

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The good thing is a built boost NSX, in stock form, thats clean will fetch a fair amount.... Being that most people looking to buy one have cash, and would rather have it already built. So if I invest 15K into that car over 3 years chances are with a built turbo motor I can sell for 30k+


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