TPMS Sensor Recall - 2008/2009 Nissan Rogue

[bboard]

I don't think this is posted yet....

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/1...-tire/

2008 Rogue affected

[philipa_240sx]

NHTSA Recall Notice:

Vehicle make / model: model year(s):Infiniti / M35 2008-2010Infiniti / M45 2008-2010Nissan / Cube 2009Nissan / Murano 2009Nissan / Rogue 2008

NHTSA campaign id number: 09v393000

Summary: Nissan is recalling certain model year 2008-2010 vehicles originally sold in or currently registered in the states of Connecticut, Delaware, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Massachusetts, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington D.C., West Virginia and Wisconsin. The material in the nut used to secure the sensor-transmitter of the tire pressure monitoring system (TPMS) may corrode and potentially crack in areas with heavy concentrations of road salt. If this occurs, the nut may come out of the sensor-transmitter and the TPMS lamp will illuminate.

Consequence: If the TPMS lamp is disregarded and the vehicle continues to be driven in this condition, the tire will quickly lose air pressure at a consistent rate resulting in a flat tire increasing the risk of a crash.

Remedy: The dealer will replace the TPMS nut with a new, more robust nut. This service will be performed free of charge. The recall is expected to begin on or before November 9, 2009. Owners may contact Nissan at 1-800-647-7261 and Infiniti at 1-800-662-6200 .

Notes: Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty 1-800-424-9153 ), or go to http://www.safercar.gov Read the full recall along with additional info at NHTSA:http://nhthqnwws112.odi.nhtsa....4.pdf

[philipa_240sx]

The TPMS sensors are mfg'd by Schrader Bridgeport. These TPMS sensors are used on many vehicles besides Nissan so it's possible other vehicles may be affected.

Member sileung actually had this very problem. The TPMS sensor retaining nut cracked, fell off, and left him/her with a flat tire:

zer...52465

[philipa_240sx]

No recall has been issued in Canada yet. I expect we will see something within the next several weeks.

Keep in mind Transport Canada and the NHTSA are 2 separate gov't organizations in 2 different countries. While they likely communicate recalls with each other, it takes time to respond once a defect is found by one country and gets acknowledged by the other. I suspect Transport Canada has likely initiating their own investigation into this problem.

[roadside]

TPMS nut to be specific. Dealers will replace it with a “new, more robust nut” free of charge.

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingt....html
Modified by roadside at 6:12 PM 10/12/2009

[philipa_240sx]

Thanks for the info.

bboard brought this recall to my attention a few days ago. It's been added to the Official Rogue FAQ - Tech Bulletins Section.

I have merged these two posts together to avoid any confusion.

[psfod3]

Can they just remove the nut and put on a new one or do they have to break the tire rim bead to hold onto the sensor?

[philipa_240sx]

Nissan has not released their tech bulletin describing the repair procedure.

However, my understanding is the tire must be dismounted to properly service the TPMS sensor. The recall will be fully covered under warranty anyway so I wouldn't worry about it.

[psfod3]

I just had a sensor replaced they did not remove the tire from the rim just deflated it and pushed in at the tire rim bead and took the bad sensor out after removing the nut.

[philipa_240sx]

I just had a sensor replaced they did not remove the tire from the rim just deflated it and pushed in at the tire rim bead and took the bad sensor out after removing the nut.

Hmmm, I hadn't thought of that. Regardless, they still have to unseat the bead... just a couple of steps short of completely removing the tire.

[psfod3]

no rebalancing needed.

[philipa_240sx]

no rebalancing needed.

I guess it's possible to do it that way. But if it were me, I would want them the re-balance the wheel anyway.

[philipa_240sx]

Update:

Transport Canada had just issued the same TPMS recall in Canada. Curiously, the 2009 Rogue has been included as well. In the US, only the 2008 model is mentioned.

Quote »Transport Canada Recall # 2009283

Recall Date: 2009/10/02Notification Type: Safety TCSystem: OtherManufacturer Recall Number: Units Affected: 18,362Category: SUV

Recall Details: On certain vehicles, material in the nut used to secure the sensor-transmitter of the Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) may corrode and crack in areas with heavy concentrations of road salt. If this occurs, the nut may come out of the TPMS sensor-transmitter causing a rapid loss of tire air pressure. This could adversely affect vehicle control and cause a crash resulting in property damage, personal injury or death. Correction: Dealers will replace the TPMS nut with a revised version.

Make Model Model Year(s) AffectedINFINITI M35 2008 2009 2010INFINITI M45 2008 2009 2010NISSAN CUBE 2009NISSAN MURANO 2009NISSAN ROGUE 2008 2009[/quote]http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/saf-se...pg=-1

[kerrton]

Man that TPMS seems to be nothing but a pain in the butt, it's a hassle when changing rims and/or tires, it has a tendancy to throw up false alarms for some people, they're expensive to replace if they get damaged and will need to be replaced due to normal wear or battery failure after a few years, and now a recall on the stupid things, I'd like to just remove them all together, I don't see a lot of value in return for all this, I'd prefer to just monitor the tire pressure myself the old fashioned way.

Oh well, just my rant for the day...

[ahhbeebee]

So what's the SOP for us Canadian owners. We wait for a recall letter or call from the dealership correct? Or are we supposed to be proactive on this one and bring it in specifically requesting said repairs?

[roadside]

The service manager at my dealership said they hadn't received the parts yet, and that I should just wait for the recall letter from Nissan.

[philipa_240sx]

You should get the recall letter. It's the mfg (Nissan) responsibility.

In the case you bought your Rogue from someone other than a Nissan dealer (ie. used car lot), then you might not be on the 'mailing list'. Then I would suggest taking it to the nearest dealer.

[rouge-rogue]

I heard that the batteries on these sensors only lasts for approx 7-10 years and they are only covered within the warranty period.I wonder how long can one delay doing the replacement for ? That way I can extend the time I need to replace the batteries. another question, how many years is the warranty on these sensors and do they get extended when they do the replacement ?

[kerrton]

I'll probably never replace the batteries, once they die I'll just ignore the tiny little dash icon. I feel like taking them to a tire shop and having them remove the damn things all together, but that could be a bad decision when I finally decide to sell or trade the vehicle in. But if the batteries die, Idon't think you have to replace them, the TPMS in my opinino is worthless and I wouldn't miss it.

[philipa_240sx]

another question, how many years is the warranty on these sensors and do they get extended when they do the replacement ?

According to Schrader Bridgeprt (the OEM mfg), the battery is good for 10 years or 100,000 miles. The sensor has built in power saving features so they automatically 'turn off' once the vehicle is stationary... and automatically turn on again when you start moving.

If you get replacement sensors from the dealer, they are only covered under the replacement parts warranty:

12 months or 12,000mi (20,000 km)

[psfod3]

Are all 08 Rogue's recalled or only certain vin numbers? I just had a sensor replaced last week under warrenty I wonder if they put on the bettet bolt.

[philipa_240sx]

The recall notice does not say how many are affected.

At this point, you would think that Schrader Bridgeport recalled any affected stock/service parts so you should have the newer part. However, I would contact the dealer to be sure.

[philipa_240sx]

I'd like to just remove them all together

This is a bit of a thorny issue. Basically auto repair shops, dealers, etc. cannot disable the TPMS system as it's part of the safety systems of the vehicle. But there is a lot of grey area:

- You can still have wheels & tires mounted without TPMS sensors separate from the vehicle and install them yourself. The tire dealer has no idea of which vehicle they are being used on. ie. As in aftermarket wheels or winter wheels/tires- TPMS is not mandatory in Canada. So is it needed?- You cannot disable the TPMS warning light as per US FMVSS 49 U.S.C. 30122(b). However removal of the sensors does not constitute disabling the warning light.

There is a good article on the legal implications TPMS sensors over at tirereview.com Read more here:

http://tirereview.com/Article/....aspx

[Couz]

So what's the SOP for us Canadian owners. We wait for a recall letter or call from the dealership correct? Or are we supposed to be proactive on this one and bring it in specifically requesting said repairs?

I have the same question.

What's the story with recalls?

We wait for letters to see if our cars are affected?

[kerrton]

Do whatever you want. If you want to wait for your letter then just wait. I'd rather give the service center a call after a couple of weeks, to give them a chance to receive the news and pre-order parts.

Anyway, not a big deal, just do whatever you want. If you want it fixed soon, call and make an appointment, if you don't care, then wait till you get your letter. Me, I'd get the appointment done in the next few weeks to be on the safe side.

[ntwrkd]

My TPMS light has been on for 3 weeks now. All tire pressures are OK. These things are a real PITA. The light has come on for no reason at least 3 times since I have bought my 2008 Rogue. I had to remove some air and then adjust the pressures again and the light has eventually gone off. I can not get the light to go out on the latest "illumination". Time to schedule a visit to the dealer. TPMS BLOWS!

[sileung]

I'm glad Nissan has finally issued a recall on the TPMS sensors. I have experienced 2 flat tires due to a fault nut on the TPMS since I got the car back in August 2008.

Hopefully this recall will resolve all of the issues that people are having.

[Couz]

Do whatever you want. If you want to wait for your letter then just wait. I'd rather give the service center a call after a couple of weeks, to give them a chance to receive the news and pre-order parts.

Anyway, not a big deal, just do whatever you want. If you want it fixed soon, call and make an appointment, if you don't care, then wait till you get your letter. Me, I'd get the appointment done in the next few weeks to be on the safe side.

I think its better to wait for a letter....why waste time if my car may not even need the recall.

But, just to make sure...if my car does need the recall they send me a letter...right ??

[Rambuto]

Sent the link from the Transport Canada website of the TPMS recall to my dealer. They mentioned they have no notice of any recall in their website. Could be Transport Canada and Nissan are still threshing out the details ? But then again one would expect the two to coordinate these kinds of things before going to print

[philipa_240sx]

To those not in the 'Northern US' states, Nissan is doing a voluntary service campaign (read: it's not necessary but is recommended) for the same TPMS sensor retaining nuts:

Quote »NTB09110 - CP Rogue, Murano cube; Wheel Valve Stem Nut - Service Campaign

Some Model Year 2008 - 2009 Rogue, 2009 Murano, and 2009 cube® vehicles may have been built with Tire Pressure Monitor System (TPMS) transmitter nuts that were not manufactured to specification. Over time, these nuts may corrode and potentially crack, especially in areas where heavy concentrations of road salt are used. For those vehicles located at dealerships or registered to owners in States that do not use a heavy concentration of road salt, Nissan is conducting this Voluntary Service Campaign. Theservice campaign repair entails replacement of the TPMS transmitter nuts at no charge for parts or labor. See this bulletin for further detail.[/quote]