Ticketed for 124mph in 65 zone.

[BigWill]

As far as I know, speed has nothing to do with the ticket you got. You said the cop seemed cool... but he raped you with that ticket. If you fight it, all he has to do is tesitify that you were driving in an unsafe manner. It is a very open and ambiguous charge. My advise is, if you have a clean record, just pay the fine and take traffic school to keep it out of your file... then go and invest in a good radar detector!! (Assuming that they are not illegal in your state.)

[zozoka1212]

I would definitely take that one to the court. Ask the judge if it is illegal to drive your car in low gear. That's all you did. You show to your friend your car and how to switch gears. All education purpose. The cop can't prove you were speeding. I think it is a clear case. They should drop the case.

zozo

[BigWill]

Zozo has a good point. Almost always, if you take the ticket to the court, even if you are convicted, the judge will usually reduce the fine. I don't think that I would spend the money on a lawyer for that one tho.

[zozoka1212]

Yes it all based what the cop was thinking about it. Not what he proved. He can't prove anything.

zozo

[ArEs23x]

Come on guys...we all do this crap! He just got caught

Yea I agree and believe we should not give the guy a hard time. Most of us see a clear freeway with no cars in sight and your behind a "G"..theres a 99.9% chance your going to be tempted to go over 100 mph lol..i think once i was going like 125mph at 2am..i only did it for a minute tho just to get the adrenaline goin haha.. I feel you tho USAF cuz I honestly thought I got raped by a bike cop. I was on the freeway on a Sunday morning going to work on the 101 freeway..i think i was going about 100 Mph until I start scanning ahead and I see a possible bike cop, the only thing I saw was a brown jacket and pants and a cop-like helmet. I did not want to risk it and I started slowing down, I am literally like 100 feet away from the bike cop as I am pulling from behind him. I knew I should of went slower, he turns to another lane and pulls behind me as I am going about 72-73 mph on a 65 mph zone. As there is other cars passing me, the guy decides to pull me over for going 7 miles above the speed limit. He never used a radar gun, he told me he was going the exact speed limit so since i made him turn lanes to let me pass, he estimated I was going 75mph. I got so mad I got a ticket when I was only on the far right hand lane and not on the left while there were plenty of other cars passing me. I realize I was still speeding but ..I was an idiot as well because I forgot my license I home since I went clubbing the night before and left my I.D. in my pants. The poon got me for that, but I guess im happy cuz he could of got me worst for not having my license. Never expect any leniency from a bike cop because tickets is there job and nothing else.

Heres what I learned while I attended a criminal justice class in college. Police officers have to give tickets because if they dont, it makes them seem like there not working. Bike cops get replaced if they dont meet a certain amount of tickets because thats why they got the privilege of being in a bike, just to give out tickets. The department gets recognized by the amount of tickets you give out and thats how they get there raises and bonuses, a department will get in trouble if they do not meet a certain amount in a quarter. I guess you could call it a quota, and bike cops have a higher quota, but they dont get paid commision. They also get accommodated by the arrest they make, so honestly your lucky Warpkor, I bet you he was lazy and he didnt wanna deal with the paperwork lol. I also learned that a department gets in trouble when they write to many tickets because they feel some of the abuse there power, so they limit the tickets they could give out. Thats why some of us get warnings, I read that and it all made sense. Anyone could correct me if im wrong, but I have a book to prove most of these facts lol. Honestly I think the police department is a joke if they have quotas of tickets they must give out, they should be here to protect us and not to be making money off of us, taking that class helped me out a lot and personal knowledge about the criminal justice system, Sorry for the Novel haha

[Fenvy]

let he who is without sin cast the first stone

I, for one, have sinned... probably 140+ but who knows what the accurate speed is.

[Warpkor]

Hi all......not to steal your thread with my own question, but I didn't want to start a new one when you've already got this one goin. But here's my situation.

I'm in Oklahoma, and our laws aren't near as crazy as east and west coast, but still for the most part unforgiving. What happened is this......10:30 at night on a 4lane road with 35mph as the speed limit (all safe conditions other than night). No cars on the road within a hundred yards in all directions. Light turned green, I accelerated normally half way through first gear and had a buddy with me so decided to feed some speed to my ride. I punched it through close to the top end of 2nd gear when I saw the cop hiding behind a bldg, just chillin w/out his radar gun on (found out later when he said he didn't know how fast I was going)So of course shifted to 3rd, let off and coasted while he pulled out to pull me over.

Cop seemed pretty cool for the most part and I was respectful. He told me he didn't know how fast I was going but saw me blow by at full throttle (aftermarked exhaust so loud), so basically I'm sure I sounded like I was going faster than I was actually going. If I had to guess I'd say I was going from 50-55, with 60 being the very very most, but not likely. Long story short (sorry) he came back and gave me a reckless driving ticket (pretty much worst you can get thats below a DWI or DUI).....so I'm like WTF! (in my head of course) but signed it anyways...no admission of guilt, but with a court date and option to pay. It's only 289bucks for the ticket...but I'm more worried about insurance and pts on my license. I wanna get a lawyer and fight it, especially since he has no hard proof I was speeding ( I know, my word against his and cop wins) but still, seems extreme to me for what I did.

Well, anyways.....any advice and guidance would be great.

FYI, I'm not a kid :P just an adult that likes to play occasionally!....so no flamin plz

I'm learning as I go here. In CA, when you are jumping on the accelerator hard, even though you may not have exceeded the speed limit, you can be cited for "exibition of speed" which is a possible two point midemeanor. In many cases you can consult with an attorney for 30 minutes without incurring expense. I'd talk with an attorney and get a professional opinion.

[kidistight]

Right on Joe... rocks and glass houses. That's why I just tried to help the guy. I think that the total experience is going to be plenty to dissuade him from doing that again. It's obvious that he made a lapse in judgement. No need to beat him over the head with it. Hell... even Dennis admitted to it!

But you have to expect that you are going to get beat up when you post a story like this, we aren't going to pat someone on the back that makes our lives harder. Men already have it "harder" without someone running up a speeding ticket doing 124 in a 55 or whatever. Our insurance is higher than women, although I think they are worse drivers than us. Like someone else said yeah we all go over the speed limit, SOME of us go over it alot. The highest I have ever gone was 94 in a 55, but if I got online and posted that on some forum the next day I wouldn't expect people to go easy on me for my "lapse in judgement". I gave him what I feel is some pretty good advice in my previous post, whether he chooses to accept it is totally up to him.

In regards to the other person who got the reckless ticket, that ticket is worthless I would HIGHLY advise you to go to court. Unless your car was swerving or driving erratically you weren't driving your car in an unsafe manner. Because your engine sounded loud is not enough of a reason, you could have been new with a manual transmission and missed a shift making the car make the sound. His case is completely based off of his judgement, which itself is open to plenty of reasonable doubt.

[Nadia]

Come on guys...we all do this crap! He just got caught

LOL, that's what I was thinking. I thought all dudes would push the limits on a fast car.

[BigWill]

I wasn't singling you out bro, and in fact you did give him some constructive advise. I'm not saying that everyone should handle the guy with kid gloves... you're absolutely right. You post something like this and you're going to get some ribbing. However, there was at least one who replied that didn't just poke some fun, they belittled and insulted. That's uncalled for. Everyone has their opinions, but there are better ways of expressing them. One of the things about this forum that I like, is that, as a rule, everyone is pretty helpful and willing to get along. Sure there is the odd flame here and there, but the rest of us are entitled to call them out when they show their colors.

Aside from that, Warpkor didn't come on here bragging about what he did, and slamming the police for writing him up... he came here asking if anyone had helpful information about whether he would be in jeopardy of losing his licence. There is another thread here where guys have been bragging about all the street racing they are doing. Where are all the flamers in THAT thread??

[CBRGAL]

I was heading north on highway 70 from Sacramento to Yuba City. Road was clear, no body in front of me and nobody in the rear, broad daylight. The CHP was coming at me in the southbound lane and I saw him too late. I just pulled over and waited. CHP asked for all my docs and I complied. Wrote me up and sent me on my way.

I did a search and nothing at that speed popped up. Is my license in jeopardy?

It all depends on the judge... you get at the lowest a 30 day suspension on your license up to 6 months suspension. You'll pay at least 300 dollars on fines up to 800 dollars. It depends on the county and what the judge decides. A judge onced asked an officer why he didn't arrest the guy for going 120+. Hopefully you'll get a nice judge.

Good Luck

-Brenda

[Raylo]

Well not sure who wrote the book that you have but cops don't get a bonus for tickets written and the money from the tickets don't even go to the police department. The money from fines collected go to the general fund of the city or county that the ticket it issued from. That general fund covers everything from streets and maintanance to city housing programs. If you look on the fees you even end up paying for court costs and victim advocate fees! It's like paying the damn public transportation fee when you register your vehicle!! Just kills me, any way I agree with the bike cops not giving breaks because that is what they do, they are traffic cops. Regular patrol guys give tons of breaks.

As far as the reckless driving ticket I would take it to court and talk to the city attorney. I bet they would at least lower the ticket to careless or less and may even drop it due to it being his opinion. For it to be reckless in Denver you must have put someone else in danger other then yourself. Driving without due regard to the safety of others. Say speeding 20 over in a school zone when school is getting out.

Either way 124 in a 65 is never good and you can thank the cop for not arresting you. Other then that your at the mercy of the court attorney for a plea and the judge for the sentencing. Good luck.

Ray

[Onslaught31]

If you're charged with anything more than a fine, bring an attorney. It's saved my a$$ before. One of the only times I wasn't speeding, I got pulled over for "reckless driving". Which apparently means I safely passed about 4 cars. I signaled, I didn't hurt, hit or cut anyone off, and the jacka$s cop made me go to court, where they tried to sentence me to 30 days in jail and 90 days community service. After getting an attorney, they dropped the whole thing to a careless (no points or fine). I hate cops.

About radars, doesn't really matter what you get. You'll get what you pay for. And the radar detector manufacturers such as Cobra, Escort, etc., also make the radar GUNS. They're playing both teams, so you'll never have a perfect radar detector.

[Q45tech]

With modern radar guns if your detector reads the gun, the gun can read your speed...............now all that's left is for the police to determine who the culprit was................flashy paint and wheels and spoilers and bling and exhaust noise are usually the offender = stereotypical.

[Warpkor]

With modern radar guns if your detector reads the gun, the gun can read your speed...............now all that's left is for the police to determine who the culprit was................flashy paint and wheels and spoilers and bling and exhaust noise are usually the offender = stereotypical.

I ordered the Escort 9500i yesterday and it's on it's way today. I've been maintaining exact posted speed limits where ever I drive. Now I see grills in my rearview mirror climbing up my *** all the time and people blowing by me like I'm standing still. I feel like I present a danger to myself and others, but I have no choice. I meet with my lawyer this afternoon, so I'll post up again after I speak with him.

[Warpkor]

I met with my attorney Friday and wrote a check for $1750. The tactic is to request a reduction of speed from 124 mph to below 100 mph so that I can retain my license. I'll still be responsible for a large fine. Unfortunately, my attorney is familiar with the judge in Yuba County and fears that he is simply a rubber stamp for the CHP. My attorney will do some recon at the courthouse prior to my court date and will let me know if anything has changed. I can also hope that the CHP officer fails to show. My court date is 10/24. I'll let you all know the outcome of my situation.

[audtatious]

I would def not count of the cop not showing up for the court date.

[BigWill]

Good luck to you!

[Onslaught31]

10 mph over = cop doesn't show70-80 mph over = cop would call off his honeymoon to make sure he shows

First and foremost, don't even think about going in there and getting out easily. They will most likely recommend jail time, license revokation, and a massive fine. The state never intends to take it to trial, so try to plead guilty to a lesser charge so you both avoid that useless additional cost. Your lawyer is the only one who can legally talk to the state attorneys, so make sure you have an understanding with him what deal you're willing to take before he talks to them. If you have to take it to court there are plenty of loopholes and technicalities to get off on (OJ Simpson did it ), but try to get out with like a 99mph ticket, aggressive driving notation on your license, and court costs.

Hope it goes well, definitely let us know

[SVTCOBRA]

Good luck!!Keep us posted.

[Warpkor]

I work for the state of California’s deferred compensation program and met with a number of CHP officers from Mount Shasta to talk about the program yesterday. They were pleased with my knowledge and thought I was helpful.

So I postulated a hypothetical question related to exceeding 100 mph. It didn’t take long for them to figure out that this hypothetical situation was specifically related to me. After relating my experience, here’s what I learned, though nothing can be declared definitive due to the variances in county court houses.

1: One of the patrol officers indicated that he would have placed me in custody. The others felt that because I immediately stopped and waited for the officer, they were not surprised of the outcome of my experience. One commented that folks that recognize their error and are ready to “take their lumps” helps out tremendously, as I did.

2: Because my citation code was 22349 which indicated only that I was exceeding the posted speed limit, there’s a decent possibility that I will just have to pay a fine and not appear in court as the referenced speed on the ticket itself may go unnoticed during processing. Another officer indicated that I may even be able to take the driver training course to mitigate the impact to my insurance policy.

3: One officer thought that the fine would not exceed $1000.

4: The officers explained that the insurance companies are notified of the citation code only and not the ticketed speed.

Only time will tell if this information is relevant to my situation. In the meantime, I’m keeping my fingers crossed and continuing to strictly observe the posted speed limits.
Modified by Warpkor at 4:04 PM 9/12/2007

[big4mike9]

ouch! But Good luck!

[Willybeen]

be safe. I've never had my car anywhere near that fast. the bike is a different story. ugh i need a new car i think