ticket today.
ticket today.
yupp got a ticket today morning going into work. speeding 78 in a 65. $$$265 so there goes my UR pulley fund. going along with traffic 3 lane highway i was in the middle lane. there were blacked out chargers on both break down lanes on the highway about 5 on each side about 1/4 mile apart from each other along with me there was about at least 10 others pulled over. funn speed trap i guess they need money for war elections and w.e other the govt needs. how could he have known how fast i was going if there was a car directly in front of me. when cop came back asked him what they need money for so bad?? he handed me a ticket without saying a word and walked away. id understand if i was switching lanes and doing w.e else in high traffic. which i never do only on open road. rant over just needed somewhere to share. thanks guys.
Re: ticket today. (suby01)
ask him for the gun reading next time. if he cant provide it you'll win in court.
IMO $265 for 13 over is complete and utter bull****. almost as bad as the $1000 for 15 over in virginia.
IMO $265 for 13 over is complete and utter bull****. almost as bad as the $1000 for 15 over in virginia.
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smockers83
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Re: ticket today. (suby01)
If he clocks either of you (yourself or the car you were following) as speeding, they can pull you over based on visuals.
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Re: ticket today. (suby01)
Contact the courtsuby01 wrote:yupp got a ticket today morning going into work. speeding 78 in a 65. $$$265 so there goes my UR pulley fund. going along with traffic 3 lane highway i was in the middle lane. there were blacked out chargers on both break down lanes on the highway about 5 on each side about 1/4 mile apart from each other along with me there was about at least 10 others pulled over. funn speed trap i guess they need money for war elections and w.e other the govt needs. how could he have known how fast i was going if there was a car directly in front of me. when cop came back asked him what they need money for so bad?? he handed me a ticket without saying a word and walked away. id understand if i was switching lanes and doing w.e else in high traffic. which i never do only on open road. rant over just needed somewhere to share. thanks guys.
Tell them you would like an opportunity to speak with the prosecutor.You will have to choose not guilty and they will give you a court dateAsk the prosecutor if he can reduce the charge to something without points like blocking traffic?
You will still have to pay but it may save an insurance increase?It worked for me
Telcoman
Re: ticket today. (telcoman)
yessir. im just gonna forward it to my lawyer. theres no way im going to another driver retraining class and sit there watching drunk driving videos for 3 hours. ill see what he says. ill keep you posted. but im still because thats all they were out there doing. not keeping people safe from crime and w.e else. just standing on a highway 10+ cops issuing citations. that just grinds my gears. i respect authority and expect them to serve and protect and not to harass people. i mean its ridiculous all i need to do is get a lawyer and he most likely will take care of this for me. i mean yes its still money out of my pocket. but sure everyone is concerned about insurance rates. its all just who you know and what you do with it....that is what !@#$@#$%@$#% me offf. shouldnt be that way but is is. and rant rant.
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Re: ticket today. (suby01)
I'm not sure if I fully follow your rant. You were admittedly speeding. There were cops patrolling an area. They caught you. What else do you expect? If they were harassing someone, say you, they would have pulled you over if you weren't speeding or not doing anything else illegal. There are cops that are assigned patrolling duties, there are some that are assigned to protect the people. They were just doing their job. I bet the whole point of 10 cops in that area was that they felt they needed to clamp down speeding in that area as it probably was a problem. Its a show of force, just like if there's a lot of crime in an area and they show up with more patrols, checkpoints, and are more heavily armed.
Insurance premiums go up because of your decisions, not because you got pulled over. The fact that you got pulled over shows to the insurance company that you pose a greater risk to them. The more risk involved, the higher the premium.
Insurance premiums go up because of your decisions, not because you got pulled over. The fact that you got pulled over shows to the insurance company that you pose a greater risk to them. The more risk involved, the higher the premium.
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Re: ticket today. (smockers83)
I still need to clarify CA's basic speed law. It's very...unclear. It basically allows for you to speed above the maximum speed limit IF it's safe to do so, but that is left to be interpretted by the highway patrol person
Re: ticket today. (Sentientbydesign)
Multi part law...1st. part...22350. No person shall drive a vehicle upon a highway at a speed greater than is reasonable or prudent having due regard for weather, visibility, the traffic on, and the surface and width of, the highway, and in no event at a speed which endangers the safety of persons or property.
22351. (a) The speed of any vehicle upon a highway not in excess of the limits specified in Section 22352 or established as authorized in this code is lawful unless clearly proved to be in violation of the basic speed law. (22350) (b) The speed of any vehicle upon a highway in excess of the prima facie speed limits in Section 22352 or established as authorized in this code is prima facie unlawful unless the defendant establishes by competent evidence that the speed in excess of said limits did not constitute a violation of the basic speed law at the time, place and under the conditions then existing.
That's pretty clear right...okay, it's not.
Basically, you can never exceed the max speed (legally) and that's 65 except in a few remote places where it's 70. 71 is always illegal.You can exceed a posted speed IF it's in all regards safe to do so. That's the law anyway, but don't plan on winning too many of those unless you're going 40 in a 35. That's why cops try to write tickets when the speed exceeds the posted speed by 15 or more %And, you can be cited for doing 45 in a 50 zone IF the officer feels the speed was excessive for the conditions. IE it was foggy, wet and dark, and he felt 45 was too fast. Cliff notes. Never exceed 70, never exceed posted limits by more than 10% and you'll never get cited. Oh, and if you're by a school when school is in, expect the 25 to be the limit, not 26.
22351. (a) The speed of any vehicle upon a highway not in excess of the limits specified in Section 22352 or established as authorized in this code is lawful unless clearly proved to be in violation of the basic speed law. (22350) (b) The speed of any vehicle upon a highway in excess of the prima facie speed limits in Section 22352 or established as authorized in this code is prima facie unlawful unless the defendant establishes by competent evidence that the speed in excess of said limits did not constitute a violation of the basic speed law at the time, place and under the conditions then existing.
That's pretty clear right...okay, it's not.
Basically, you can never exceed the max speed (legally) and that's 65 except in a few remote places where it's 70. 71 is always illegal.You can exceed a posted speed IF it's in all regards safe to do so. That's the law anyway, but don't plan on winning too many of those unless you're going 40 in a 35. That's why cops try to write tickets when the speed exceeds the posted speed by 15 or more %And, you can be cited for doing 45 in a 50 zone IF the officer feels the speed was excessive for the conditions. IE it was foggy, wet and dark, and he felt 45 was too fast. Cliff notes. Never exceed 70, never exceed posted limits by more than 10% and you'll never get cited. Oh, and if you're by a school when school is in, expect the 25 to be the limit, not 26.
Re: ticket today. (smockers83)
Well smocky, he did say it was a rant, and he's not denying he did it. We can all relate to the need to rant.
Re: ticket today. (suby01)
Lesson learned issss? buy a really good radar detector!
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Re: ticket today. (suby01)
Fight it.
I have 9 citations and no convictions.
The trick is to write a better report than the officer does. Take note of all of your surroundings when you get pulled over. What cars are around you, and their color. Where the officer was located, as opposed to where you were located. The more detailed the better.
The whole if he doesn't show you the gun.... that is only in a few states, and if it is a danger to the officer or you, he isn't required to show it to you.
Depending on the state, the officer is required to show up in court. They only show up about half the time.
Washington State, the officer is not required to be in court, so if you can bring up a question that gives reasonable doubt, and he isn't there to confirm or deny, it will get thrown out.
The best of the best radar detectors will detect radar from a mile away. Problem is, most jurisdictions (almost all in WA) are now using laser (Lidar) and by the time your detector goes off, it's too late.
I have 9 citations and no convictions.
The trick is to write a better report than the officer does. Take note of all of your surroundings when you get pulled over. What cars are around you, and their color. Where the officer was located, as opposed to where you were located. The more detailed the better.
The whole if he doesn't show you the gun.... that is only in a few states, and if it is a danger to the officer or you, he isn't required to show it to you.
Depending on the state, the officer is required to show up in court. They only show up about half the time.
Washington State, the officer is not required to be in court, so if you can bring up a question that gives reasonable doubt, and he isn't there to confirm or deny, it will get thrown out.
The best of the best radar detectors will detect radar from a mile away. Problem is, most jurisdictions (almost all in WA) are now using laser (Lidar) and by the time your detector goes off, it's too late.
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Re: ticket today. (Beancooker)
Sorry, I guess I rant for different reasons.
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Re: ticket today. (suby01)
That sucks!
At least you didn't get caught racing!
At least you didn't get caught racing!
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Vinny14369
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Re: ticket today. (suby01)
I just want to add my .02$. I'm a big Infiniti fan, and former '90 M 30 owner who is contemplating purchasing a G 37, as my '92 Dodge Stealth RT /TT is starting to give way. I always read the posts to learn more about G 35 / 37s and am impressed.
In addition, I'm an attorney licensed in both Florida and Oklahoma who has handled many criminal and traffic citations. Although I am unsure what the traffic laws are in your state, I would strongly advise you to get an attorney to fight the ticket. As you are aware, it's not the fine which is a problem, but rather the possibility of your insurance premiums increasing in the event you were convicted of the offense. In addition, there are several technicalities associated with traffic citations. As such, an attorney could be successful in obtaining a dismissal of the citation.
Finally, there were other opinions on this post who advocated contacting the prosecuting attorney to see if they would be willing to work with you on the citation. While that is a possibly inexpensive alternative, I would never, ever contact the district attorney as a defendant. District attorneys may act like they will work with you, but, in reality, can do anything they want. Keep in mind that speaking with a district attorney is just like talking with the officer who issued you the ticket--the D.A. can use anything you say against you in court. Also, even if you went to court on your own without speaking to the D.A. and decided to plead to the judge, that, too, could be dangerous as the judge has the ultimate discretion with your citation. The judge, after hearing testimony from the officer, could find your situation egregious and actually increase your fine, convict you of the offense, or worse. Depending on the citation, the judge could suspend your DL for several months. I don't mean to go off of the deep end, but I'm just relaying to you several instances that I have seen take place with people going to traffic court without an attorney on what initially appear to be rather benign offenses. Keep in mind the old adage in criminal trials that describes a person who represents himself at trial: "He has a fool for a client." Hope this has helped. Safe driving!
In addition, I'm an attorney licensed in both Florida and Oklahoma who has handled many criminal and traffic citations. Although I am unsure what the traffic laws are in your state, I would strongly advise you to get an attorney to fight the ticket. As you are aware, it's not the fine which is a problem, but rather the possibility of your insurance premiums increasing in the event you were convicted of the offense. In addition, there are several technicalities associated with traffic citations. As such, an attorney could be successful in obtaining a dismissal of the citation.
Finally, there were other opinions on this post who advocated contacting the prosecuting attorney to see if they would be willing to work with you on the citation. While that is a possibly inexpensive alternative, I would never, ever contact the district attorney as a defendant. District attorneys may act like they will work with you, but, in reality, can do anything they want. Keep in mind that speaking with a district attorney is just like talking with the officer who issued you the ticket--the D.A. can use anything you say against you in court. Also, even if you went to court on your own without speaking to the D.A. and decided to plead to the judge, that, too, could be dangerous as the judge has the ultimate discretion with your citation. The judge, after hearing testimony from the officer, could find your situation egregious and actually increase your fine, convict you of the offense, or worse. Depending on the citation, the judge could suspend your DL for several months. I don't mean to go off of the deep end, but I'm just relaying to you several instances that I have seen take place with people going to traffic court without an attorney on what initially appear to be rather benign offenses. Keep in mind the old adage in criminal trials that describes a person who represents himself at trial: "He has a fool for a client." Hope this has helped. Safe driving!
Re: ticket today. (suby01)
Suby01:
I want you to know that any G-35 Infinity is a traffic citation attractor. I have finally learned how to control my urge to go fast in my car, for the most part. I still see once every two to three weeks, a G-35 being pulled over for speeding or trying to fix a punctured tire. Something about tire and citations that is innate to G-35s. You are not the only one.
Don't forget that you can plead "Nolo", which won't show up as a point on your license and thus would not raise your insurance rates, but you will still pay the fine. However, you can't plead "Nolo" for at least 5 years on another moving violation.
The next silver bullet will be to take a defensive drivers course to help reduce your insurance rates.
I would say that traffic court judges and cops, are best friends. Beware if you want to defend the ticket by yourself. Use an attorney if you must--they know the ropes and sometimes the judge.
I want you to know that any G-35 Infinity is a traffic citation attractor. I have finally learned how to control my urge to go fast in my car, for the most part. I still see once every two to three weeks, a G-35 being pulled over for speeding or trying to fix a punctured tire. Something about tire and citations that is innate to G-35s. You are not the only one.
Don't forget that you can plead "Nolo", which won't show up as a point on your license and thus would not raise your insurance rates, but you will still pay the fine. However, you can't plead "Nolo" for at least 5 years on another moving violation.
The next silver bullet will be to take a defensive drivers course to help reduce your insurance rates.
I would say that traffic court judges and cops, are best friends. Beware if you want to defend the ticket by yourself. Use an attorney if you must--they know the ropes and sometimes the judge.
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Re: ticket today. (Jacko3)
Please realize that pleading "nolo" a/k/a "no contest" does not solve your problem. There is no difference between pleading guilty and "nolo". If you plead no contest, you are simply letting the judge sentence you based on the circumstances of your case. No contest just means that you are neither pleading guilty or not guilty, but for your own personal reasons are wanting to the matter to be resolved by the court. The judge can still convict you of the traffic ticket even if you plea "no contest". As Jacko said, get a lawyer, it is worth the money, even if you can end up getting the same results representing yourself. It's like insurance, it buys you peace of mind (at least that's the concept, anyway)
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Re: ticket today. (Jacko3)
Oh, I recently got pulled over, I was doing 90mph or so, passing on a dotted line, single lane, as I crossed over, I see the cop, it was night so I could'nt use the brakes, I slammed it down to 4rth then 3rd gear, (in my altima) without the brakes, he clocked me at 123kph, lol, that was close, he said, we're looking for people going faster than that tonight, I was like, yeah, good luck pal! theres more just to tired to divulge night boys...
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Re: ticket today. (suby01)
13 over isn't much. i do that all the time. They never stopped me for that.
zozo
zozo
Re: ticket today. (suby01)
You whiners...I'll trade ALL of you for my ticket I'm fighting right now..
Re: ticket today. (Vinny14369)
I plead "Nolo" for my first and only ticket in my G after being pulled over 7 times. No points on license, and so insurance cannot raise my rates--insurance uses points on license to raise rates. But I paid the fine. Seems like a good bargain to me, if i could not afford a lawyer to fight my case. Pleading guilty will lead to points being assessed on your driving record. Pleading "Nolo" will not---thats the difference. But you get to pay the traffic fee, in either case.
After observing the relationship b/w the judge and the cops, I decided it was too risky to plead not guilt---the relationship b/w judges and cops is too cozy and sometimes biased IMHO--should not be that way.
I had printed out the state codes and studied it like a good student, went through the citation for any errors, drove down the road where I was clocked, recorded on a camcorder the signs and posts on the road. Concluded that the cop was really good---citation was 97% air tight. I had only a 3 % I could argue in court, which I concluded would end up in the cops favor--judging by the cozy relationship I saw first hand b/w judge and cops, eventhough I had a point.
So, i decided to plead "Nolo", and be on my merry good way---not worth the hassle, the disrespect from the judge, and the annoying chuckle from the cop---might get more aggravated and commit another crime while in court. I gave them their money, and got away without points on my license.
After observing the relationship b/w the judge and the cops, I decided it was too risky to plead not guilt---the relationship b/w judges and cops is too cozy and sometimes biased IMHO--should not be that way.
I had printed out the state codes and studied it like a good student, went through the citation for any errors, drove down the road where I was clocked, recorded on a camcorder the signs and posts on the road. Concluded that the cop was really good---citation was 97% air tight. I had only a 3 % I could argue in court, which I concluded would end up in the cops favor--judging by the cozy relationship I saw first hand b/w judge and cops, eventhough I had a point.
So, i decided to plead "Nolo", and be on my merry good way---not worth the hassle, the disrespect from the judge, and the annoying chuckle from the cop---might get more aggravated and commit another crime while in court. I gave them their money, and got away without points on my license.
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zozoka1212
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Re: ticket today. (G_whizz)
G still fighting. Man I thought it was on last month.
Good luck
zozo
Good luck
zozo
Re: ticket today. (zozoka1212)
My last ticket was in PA. 88 in a 55. Was like a $200 fine and I was supposed to go to some class. I never got the letter saying I had to go to class so They took my license for 1 month. Before I get flamed for being a hypocrite I will add that this happened when I was 19. The bad part was I had to do my job training in Philly and I was living in Elkton at the time. So i had to cross like 2 or 3 borders and an hour plus drive every day. I never did more the 1 over the speed limit during that suspension. I know it was bad to drive, But I only drove to get to work. I needed a job and they wouldn't let me get a work pass.
Re: ticket today. (zozoka1212)
Yup... my lawyer keeps putting it off. I think he's either waiting to see more case files of other offenders...or he has something up his sleeve. I found out her actually wrote a book on laser and radar...so I'm confident in whatever it is he's doing.. here's hoping anyways..zozoka1212 wrote:G still fighting. Man I thought it was on last month.
Good luck
zozo
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Re: ticket today. (G_whizz)
1+ for good representatives... Good luck in the courtroom
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Re: ticket today. (G_whizz)
Fingers crossed for you.
zozo
zozo
Re: ticket today. (zozoka1212)
Thanks boys!
Re: ticket today. (G_whizz)
G_Whizz:
Goodluck!
Goodluck!
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Re: ticket today. (Jacko3)
I would fight it in court! In the US you are innocent until proven guilty!
I have had 1-2 tickets since i was 16 and always taken them to court and either it gets dismissed or i get no points and then have to pay the fine!
If I have to pay the fine I ask them if I can do community service to pay it! I work on a farm since i was 12 for free because I loved horses and the farm owner will sign a paper stating that i completed the hours required and then I turn it into the clerk office!
Free for me and It is a way to beat the system!
It also keeps my record clean!
DJ
I have had 1-2 tickets since i was 16 and always taken them to court and either it gets dismissed or i get no points and then have to pay the fine!
If I have to pay the fine I ask them if I can do community service to pay it! I work on a farm since i was 12 for free because I loved horses and the farm owner will sign a paper stating that i completed the hours required and then I turn it into the clerk office!
Free for me and It is a way to beat the system!
It also keeps my record clean!
DJ
Re: ticket today. (suby01)
your lucky it was only 13 over,I got pulled over for doing 32 over the speed limit,but I was driving a G37 and the Cop understood all that power needed to be used!
Get a lawyer,you can beat it!
Get a lawyer,you can beat it!
Re: ticket today. (Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT)
Tampa:
Nice one!
You speak like a real Frontiers man. I admire that tenacity you show. Man, since 1998, I have had a ticket every year. Because they fall of every year, i don't know when my driving record is clean and when it is not. So, I generally budget $200 - $300 a year for tickets as part of my annual expenditure.
Nice one!
You speak like a real Frontiers man. I admire that tenacity you show. Man, since 1998, I have had a ticket every year. Because they fall of every year, i don't know when my driving record is clean and when it is not. So, I generally budget $200 - $300 a year for tickets as part of my annual expenditure.