This might sound stupid...but

[KApwr]

antbody in FL that can take this guy for a ride?

Your in Tampa right??? The guy that bought Duy's old car, i think his name is Bill lives in Tampa so you have one guy that owns the fastest KA-T and Scott (Enthalpy in FA) also lives in Tampa and he has a monster SR20 so seek them out and beg for a ride!!!! I'm doing a buildup of my KA-T shortly.

[creophus]

I have talked to Scott and his car is running but its not tuned yet, so no rides right now. I don't know the guy who owns the KA-T, but yeah I am definitely in Tampa. Hopefully I'll be able to meet up with them soon.

[Evil98Silvia]

Geez you all, you guys are fighting OTHER NISSAN GUYS! Both motors are made by nissan, one is turbo, one is N/A. They both have there potential. As for the RB motor, dont you dare bring that down, that has the potential to bring any nissan motor down. Its not about what stock hp your getting with RB, your paying for 1500hp potential. The RB25 motor can handle 600hp on stock internals and all, which is why the skyline is a jap. SUPERCAR as some call it. I dont see why its all KILL SR and YAY KAT, or KILL KAT and YAY SR. Me and my friends have SR cars, KAT cars and we all LOVE each others cars, there is no hate or any of that. Dam do what you wanna do and help others out instead of putting them down. As far as the REDTOP s14? WHAT!? Hmmmm redtop s14, that makes SO MUCH SENSE doesnt it? SO you can talk bad about the SR when you dont even know what a redtop is. Any motor has potential guys, you can get a geo metro down to 13's if you REALLY WANTED to. You guys with the KA-T act jealous or something towards the SR guys or something, contantly hatin on them like the taliban towards the U.S.. This is not focused on all of you, just pissed how some of you "nissan lovers" or so you call yourself can put down all these other nissan motors. I bet if you have a 350z you would be praisin the VQ and saying scew the inline 6 cyl, their crap, bla bla bla

Robbie

[WDRacing]

Actually Robbie, I've hated every motor thats ever came in the Z. I've owned 6 RB series motors in both of my Skylines. I've driven SR's in the cars that actually came with them installed. I've driven several Sylivia's with CA's. So I'd say I can pretty much have whatever opinion I want to have.

I love the 2.4 KADET. I would much rather have one then the SR. I'm not about dissin the SR, just defending the fact that just cause it's from Japan and comes with a turbo doesn't mean it's better. There's nothin wrong with a little friendly competition. Oh, and incase you didn't realize it, your in a KADET forum.

WD

[Evil98Silvia]

Incase you didnt realise, the topic is KA or SR...... I do believe that the the whole car comes from JAP. I didnt say anything bad about the KA did I? I accually have a pretty quick N/A in my 1998 240 right now. All the motors have there ups and downs. I wasnt putting down your opinion either, i was putting down the people that gotta talk so much trash about other nissan motors. Im not a VQ fan either because i dont like the fact how there is NO room what soever to do any work. And again in NO way am I putting down the KA, matter of fact that turbo kit your gonna offer sounds bad A******. But fact is that nissan just builds good quality motors with tons of potential, just depends on the person and what you want out of it, just like everything else.

Robbie

[WDRacing]

I agree, Nissan does make some very nice motors. But you'll get the same kind of reply I made in the SR forum if you said somthing about KA's being better. I'm biased cause I'm gonna tune the KA when I get home.

WD

[Evil98Silvia]

Yeeeaaah, but it wasnt directed towards KA guys, it was directed towards everyone who brings down other nissan motors. Im a nissan fanatic. Ill talk down torqeless hondas all day for fun, even though im a big nsx fan since i drove my friends 10 second one around. The funny thing is, my 240 kills his nsx off the line up till i hit 3rd gear then he flys by so fast i cant even see him. But its funny because he has a twin plate clutch and 10 inch wide tires on the back and i still launch better than his. NO TORQUE! But when it comes to nissan hatin nissan.....its all over. So no hard feelings!

Robbie

[creophus]

I don't have a loyalty to any motor personally. I just want to go fast for the least amount of money possible. I love my S14, it just needs to go faster. The rest of the car rocks! Either Turbo KA or SR, I just want it faster.

[98TURBOKA]

Stickers will make it faster!!!! You need to add a lot of stickers.

[Evil98Silvia]

Stickers will make it faster!!!! You need to add a lot of stickers.

YOU KNOW IT! Stickers make everything faster. I had this one civic crew tell me that mugen stickers at 6hp a piece, so they had like 20 a piece on them, FAST!!!! And this one guy with a mustang had a GT-R badge on his stang and said it was a cobra R swap.....Mustang is a true story! HA! :bonghit

[TomsMR2]

the ka24det is a better tuner motor.. the sr20det is a better "i dont know what the **** im doing, i just want my car to run, and run fast" motor. turbocharging a motor that wasnt meant to EVER see boost isnt easy. if you're not comfortable with totally tuning a motor to do something it wasnt meant to do, avoid the ka-t or you'll be seeing alot of blown motors.

[AceInhole]

You guys with the KA-T act jealous or something towards the SR guys or something, contantly hatin on them like the taliban towards the U.S..

lol... kinda like..... ??(if anyone wants stickers like that my friend made a bunch... i can see how much he'll sell for if there's interest.)

Quote »This is not focused on all of you, just pissed how some of you "nissan lovers" or so you call yourself can put down all these other nissan motors. [/quote]I don't think i started "hating" (even jokingly) on SR's untill I finished the turbo on my KA. Really wasn't till then that my friends started makin' fun of the "truck engine" (stupid Sentra people... :p just mad at the RWD-ness, really).You should realize... that it's all just a joke, though. Just like my friend's S13 with NOTA-KA on the plates.

On the subject:To tell the truth, as a KAt owner... I'd probably feel more comfortable with an SR as a daily driver. I've always got something in the back of my head saying "det...o...na...tion...." whenever I hit the gas. Best reason to get a KA, though..... cheap replacements. I've got 2 spare trannies from guys who've swapped to SRs. Also, the fact that I compete so much with my car (auto-x's every weekend... drift or drag nights in the middle [at least starting soon] and track days at the end of summer) is a good reason to have an engine that's easily replaceable. If you shoot a rod through an SR (it CAN happen, esp if you beat and flog the engine a LOT) you're pretty SOL... compared to being able to buy a KA for $300-700 in good condition (got mine with 26k miles on it).

[WDRacing]

Very true ACE, hell, I've gone through 6-7 RB20's over here gettin silly with the boost. Only cause I can get a new one for 200 bucks right up the street.

WD

[creophus]

$200 ???!!! Wow, I think I speak for everyone when I say, "I hate you for that!" Just kidding, but it would be nice if we all had that kind of opportunity.

[Evil98Silvia]

Very true ACE, hell, I've gone through 6-7 RB20's over here gettin silly with the boost. Only cause I can get a new one for 200 bucks right up the street.

WD

Where do you live?! I WANT ONE! I almost bought a clip for 2k. I didnt cause RB parts are way hard to find, but i have 2 other cars anyways so i dont care.

Robbie

[AceInhole]

Where do you live?! I WANT ONE! I almost bought a clip for 2k. I didnt cause RB parts are way hard to find, but i have 2 other cars anyways so i dont care.

Robbie

2+2 = Japan, or so it seems. Not really sure of anywhere else to get RB's that cheap... not even Australia.

[AceInhole]

Very true ACE, hell, I've gone through 6-7 RB20's over here gettin silly with the boost. Only cause I can get a new one for 200 bucks right up the street.

WD

I honestly don't think that I'd push my car so hard while racing if I had an SR.... but I do think that the SR wouldn't give me so much trouble......

That said, I've never had a problem with detonation or really even a fuel related problem that damaged the car. My worst enemy thus far seems to be oil, and having a Greddy DD that hits the ground and stresses my exhaust manifold (which recently broke at the T3 flange).

[WDRacing]

I'm on Okinawa actually...The RB's you get from the junkyard on base don't come with turbines though. They get stripped first and sold seperatly. Although you never know what kind of engine your actually getting, the last guy could have been a boost addict as well. My biggest risk was when I bought an engine out of a car that was submerged...lol. Ran some oil through all the oil jackets and in the cylinders...let it sit. Went out the next day, turned the motor over by hand for about 30 minutes. Then she fired right up. That one lasted me a good 6 months running at 13lbs over stock boost with nothin more then a FMIC.

Actually, it was oil that got that engine too...spun a cam journal dry at about 8500 rpm. That was the last time I disconnected my rev limiter...heh.

WD

[SingleCamSam]

NA 240sx beats a 10sec NSX to 3rd gear. Doesn't pass the smell test bro.....

[jdmS14]

i have a problem...i've been talking to a few friends with 240's...and they plan on doing the SR20 swap in the near future....but i've been trying to decide. would the engine swap be too much trouble? because im not a car genius, and i dont want to spend a buttload to get it installed for me by someone. another reason for my confusion, is i hear the KA24det, in my s14, is able to put out around 260 or more HP at the wheels!! when the S14 SR20 would only be pushing around 220 at the wheels. And i've read on the forums that putting a turbo on the KA would be a lot cheaper. the only real main problem i have is...my KA has just crossed over 100K miles. it has no signs of dying on me anytime soon. but who knows, i dont wanna risk putting all that money into it, and it blows. a SR from japan, with about 40K miles on it sure does sound sweet. but im still not sure. another factor to decide is the engine blocks the KA and SR have...the SR is equipped with the aluminum block, while the KA has a cast iron block, ive been told by many that a cast iron block can withstand more pressure, such as a bigger turbo, nos, and heat. i know the aluminum is lighter, but i also heard its only lighter by about 3-5 pounds, not really a great big difference...right now to me, the KA with turbo sounds sweet, but the SR still seems sweet..help me out here guys!!!!! :help

[lurks]

I'm a new member to this site. I'm very impressed. I have always like Japanese cars because of their build quality. 5 years ago I began turning wrenches on them and studying. I have a turbo SC300, I'm working on a turbo honda for my wife, and my next project is going to be a track car. I have selected the 93-94 240sx. I will quit rambling now.

It seems the failure mode of the boosted KA motor is the piston rings. As I understand it, the crank and rods are forged pieces. I have come to the conlcusion that I will build a KA motor with aftermarket pistons and rings with a slightly reduced compression for my SCCA and track style applied 240. My project won't start until next year but I thought I'd ring in and share some input. Great site here, by the way.

[SHiFT]

i have a problem...i've been talking to a few friends with 240's...and they plan on doing the SR20 swap in the near future....but i've been trying to decide. would the engine swap be too much trouble? because im not a car genius, and i dont want to spend a buttload to get it installed for me by someone. another reason for my confusion, is i hear the KA24det, in my s14, is able to put out around 260 or more HP at the wheels!! when the S14 SR20 would only be pushing around 220 at the wheels. And i've read on the forums that putting a turbo on the KA would be a lot cheaper. the only real main problem i have is...my KA has just crossed over 100K miles. it has no signs of dying on me anytime soon. but who knows, i dont wanna risk putting all that money into it, and it blows. a SR from japan, with about 40K miles on it sure does sound sweet. but im still not sure. another factor to decide is the engine blocks the KA and SR have...the SR is equipped with the aluminum block, while the KA has a cast iron block, ive been told by many that a cast iron block can withstand more pressure, such as a bigger turbo, nos, and heat. i know the aluminum is lighter, but i also heard its only lighter by about 3-5 pounds, not really a great big difference...right now to me, the KA with turbo sounds sweet, but the SR still seems sweet..help me out here guys!!!!! :help

well everyone has their own opinions, but I'd go for the KAT. You already have the engine and you know it pretty well (assuming). Yeah the SR would be lower mileage but people start turboing their KA way past 100K and everything works great. If you get a turbo kit you will be around 240 at the wheels at like 7psi. You have to spend like $5000+ to get the SR to that level. Also, parts are cheap and plentiful for the KA should anything go wrong. I think someone on this board is selling nsport or fmax kits (can't remember which one) for like 3500 shipped. Nsport seems to be the favorite. If you need more convincing check out the SR20DET SUCKS thread, its pretty good.

[Red Lightning]

i have a problem...i've been talking to a few friends with 240's...and they plan on doing the SR20 swap in the near future....but i've been trying to decide. would the engine swap be too much trouble? because im not a car genius, and i dont want to spend a buttload to get it installed for me by someone. another reason for my confusion, is i hear the KA24det, in my s14, is able to put out around 260 or more HP at the wheels!! when the S14 SR20 would only be pushing around 220 at the wheels. And i've read on the forums that putting a turbo on the KA would be a lot cheaper. the only real main problem i have is...my KA has just crossed over 100K miles. it has no signs of dying on me anytime soon. but who knows, i dont wanna risk putting all that money into it, and it blows. a SR from japan, with about 40K miles on it sure does sound sweet. but im still not sure. another factor to decide is the engine blocks the KA and SR have...the SR is equipped with the aluminum block, while the KA has a cast iron block, ive been told by many that a cast iron block can withstand more pressure, such as a bigger turbo, nos, and heat. i know the aluminum is lighter, but i also heard its only lighter by about 3-5 pounds, not really a great big difference...right now to me, the KA with turbo sounds sweet, but the SR still seems sweet..help me out here guys!!!!! :help

Well since your screen name is jdm, I would suggest SR20 because it's jdm. But if you have a decent shape KA24 and you like the KA's power curve, then turbo KA is a good route.

[Turb0wned]

i think u'll be happy with the ks-t there strong good engines

[Turb0wned]

sorry about that last post i meant ka-t