This is gonna be one hell of a race.....

[Onizuka]

why would you want to win a race due to another driver's error??!?

Ask any racer, any real racer. It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile; winning's winning. You never had me, you never had your car.

[Silent Drifter]

^haha, driver error is part of the race, you screw up its ur fault you still lost.

[jdmfreak]

sO TRUE

[GELLIS2586]

well hes a bad driver then. seriously, you will not beat or come close to a gst. it is turbocharged. ka has tourque with no pull in the high end. sorry bro it just isnt gonna happen.

Dude were you there? I didn't know you were watching the race from Orlando. You must have some big binoculars.

Anyways It was from a 40 punch both of us started in second and it was dead even until 105. But you don't have to believe me i know what happened and i cant prove it with video but it did happen

[cory2081]

Only ALL 5th & 6th gen celica's, and 7th gens minus the GTS(depends on mods)Only most civicsOnly any NA talon/eclipse (not sure about the new V6's though)acura integra RS & GScavalier, malibu, s10, dodge avenger, most neon's, spirit's, Lebarons, 4 clyinder countour's, escort's, focus's (not SVT's), probe's, tempo's, 4 cylinder accords, ever CRX i've raced, any kia i've seen, mazda mx3 & mazda mx6, 626, protege, topaz, galant, mirage, 200sx, nx, grand am, sunfire, sunbirds, and saturn i've raced, older mr2's NA (the 3S engine), some jetta's, golf's,

I think i've myself or seen someone race each of these, and most of them weren't stock

It's not quick stock, no, but it can still hold it's own!

Dr.

I just beat a V6 Eclipse today on the highway. He had intake/exhaust.....I have Apexi N1 single and Injen intake. '96 240 5speed SE full optioned. Someone said something about these cars not having any top-end. My car likes to rev high more than it does for me to short-shift. Has alot to do with what exhaust set-up you use and how the car is tuned. My car also makes more power by running 89 octane. You shouldn't run high octane with stock timing on a stock N/A KA, no need for it and it will most likely hurt you.....unless you use race fuel which is more oxygen rich than pump gas and may help you some (until the lead fouls out the o2 and you have to buy a new one)

[APEXi240]

How does your engine make more power using lower octane gas? The difference in how fast it burns is neglible in a near stock car. Did you dyno it with 93 then 89?

Also the owners manual says to use 91 octane for the 95+ 240sx.

[cory2081]

How does your engine make more power using lower octane gas? The difference in how fast it burns is neglible in a near stock car. Did you dyno it with 93 then 89?

Also the owners manual says to use 91 octane for the 95+ 240sx.

Using stock timing, 89 octane gives the car a leaner burn b/c it burns faster than 93 which, in turn, slightly advances ignition timing. Running 93 would slightly retard it b/c it burns slower. Should I go deeper into the subject or did that answer your question?? The manual also says that the engine runs at optimum performance when a slight spark knock is heard under heavy engine loads such as going up a very steep hill at low RPM, which is true b/c that means ignition timing is at optimum. Does a T88 make a stock KA faster than a T3/4?? Bigger and more is not always better.

[APEXi240]

Got you, thanks.

[90ka24de]

Got you, thanks.

lol.. funny, anyways.. it depends on what mods he has... i've beatin gst's with intake and exhaust... gsr's , rsx, yes the type s..you doubt the 240 so much then why get one?

[Silent Drifter]

hell yea more power to the 240! haha. Stock yes the 240 falls short, but if you open up the restrictive intake an exhaust your lookin at a low 15 second car.

[tl1000sga]

I beat a gst with a 97' hx civic with an si engine, intake and full exhaust. The civic runs about 15 flat in the quarter. We raced for about 40 miles on I-95 headed to miami. The gst just couldn't pull as hard as the civic from about 60 to 130 mph. It was funny because he was picking on another civic that was riced out. Then we busted his and the other civics *** with the primered black civic. I was very dissappointed because I was thinking of getting one. Remember, gst's wiegh a lot more than a 240sx, but with only about 50 more HP.

[LittleBrotherSilvia]

seriously you might just be wasting gas if he was a car and a half ahead at 105 you're probably not gonna make that up thats at least a half a second....so good luck on winning but hey racing is always fun regardless of losing.

a car and a half, about 25-30 ft or so, at 105mph, and u say thats .5 sec...

if it takes u a full half a second to go 25 ft at 105mph then something just went wrong with physics, try like .2-.3 seconds.

but back to the topic, gst's are slow as hell, i kept up with one in my old 00' civic si that had basic mods up until about 90 or so when we both backed off.

[tl1000sga]

maybe if you fill up with a gallon of 116 and get a perfect launch and lose a few pounds. seriously you might just be wasting gas if he was a car and a half ahead at 105 you're probably not gonna make that up thats at least a half a second....so good luck on winning but hey racing is always fun regardless of losing.

more like .15 seconds. on an average car that runs slower than 12 sec. 1/4 , it averages out to about .1 sec. per car length. That's a well known way to get a guesstimate for a lot of racers.

[90ka24de]

Let me know what happen when you do race the gst

[Ceptos]

who cares if u lose, racing at the track is fun. ive raced ferraris, bentlys (hehe), lotus', whatever, yeah of course i lose, but im laughing the whole time, hehe, me and a friend beat some 'cool guy' in his focus once, we had a mini van! hehe

the only thing i beat legit that i care to remember was an SI, not the newest, the more popular body style. anyway, have fun at the track, n/a ownz!

[Silent Drifter]

Let me know what happen when you do race the gst

Its an RS with a turbo, well im off to the track tonite ill post my times an maybe a vid if my friend can upload em.

[Silent Drifter]

Alright went to the track, it be cooled down I thought Id run some pretty good times but no1 could get good 60's. For instance an SR with drag radials couldnt get better than a 2.3, Supercharged civic couldnt beat a 2.4, an 11 second trans am who normally hits 1.6's couldnt beat a 2.2. But here are my timesR/T .54360' 2.398330 6.6511/8 10.074MPH 71.871000 13.0371/4 15.505MPH 90.47If it were possible to get good 60's I shouldve been close to a 15.1-15.2.

[lbrowne]

So did you lose to him? What did he run?

[Silent Drifter]

We didnt race, were racing saturday on the street not the track.

[tl1000sga]

Good luckLet us know what happens

[lbrowne]

ahhh good stuff.

did you lower your rear tire pressure after?

[Silent Drifter]

yea i had them at 20psi.

[TachyonS14]

Whats the best tire pressure for runnin on the street?

[Silent Drifter]

no idea but im gonna lower it down to 20psi for the street too, an see whats the best rpm to launch at. With 30psi I normally launch at 23-2500rpms an get great launches on the street.