This forum is NO HELP!!!!!

[mott6904]

Well the body harness has to tie into the main harness at some point...the switch is good the wipers worked fine on my sr20det that I just took out. and yes since the rb was put in they dont work right.

There are only a couple of wires that tie into the body harness. Ignition power, the engine computer supplies data for the instrument cluster(tach, oil pressure light, engine light, coolant temp, etc) and that is basically it. Unless you completly rigged something you should have never touched the wiper circuit. And please stop saying that you are a ase certified. All that means is you can pass a test. Fixing a car on paper and fixing one it real life is completly different.

[lexrob]

ha.. i was just suggesting a temp fix.

[PyR0NiAk]

ha.. i was just suggesting a temp fix.

Breaking off his wiper selector lever and installing a toggle switch is not a "temp. fix"

[Beanstalk]

There are only a couple of wires that tie into the body harness. Ignition power, the engine computer supplies data for the instrument cluster(tach, oil pressure light, engine light, coolant temp, etc) and that is basically it. Unless you completly rigged something you should have never touched the wiper circuit. And please stop saying that you are a ase certified. All that means is you can pass a test. Fixing a car on paper and fixing one it real life is completly different.

Dude are you ASE certified?? I didnt think so . To those who say that ASE is a joke. Why dont you tell that to all the people in tech school? Thats the whole reason they are there is to pass those meaningless tests. Yes I agree with some ... that you dont need an ASE to work on a car but if we both went into a dealership and wanted a job. I'm gonna get one and your not gonna get so much as a phone call.

[PyR0NiAk]

Dude are you ASE certified?? I didnt think so . To those who say that ASE is a joke. Why dont you tell that to all the people in tech school? Thats the whole reason they are there is to pass those meaningless tests. Yes I agree with some ... that you dont need an ASE to work on a car but if we both went into a dealership and wanted a job. I'm gonna get one and your not gonna get so much as a phone call.

I've been to numerous garages and talked to numerous ASE certified mechanics that honestly didn't know s***...

[mott6904]

Dude are you ASE certified?? I didnt think so . To those who say that ASE is a joke. Why dont you tell that to all the people in tech school? Thats the whole reason they are there is to pass those meaningless tests. Yes I agree with some ... that you dont need an ASE to work on a car but if we both went into a dealership and wanted a job. I'm gonna get one and your not gonna get so much as a phone call.

And now you should insert your foot into your mouth becuase you dont know what you are talking about. I am an ASE certified technician and i have been for 7 years. Ive been working on cars for 10 years, 7 of those years i was the head technician working on mercedes, bmw, lexus, porsche, etc. Now i work at a motorcycle shop that specializes in building dragbikes. That being said if there was one job on the market and it was between you and I your a** would still be looking for a job. Most of the tech school that kids go to for training are a joke. They simple have a fancy tv comercial with tons of cool cars on them to make the kids believe that get to work on them. When in reality those big institues are only in the business to get more money from the government and not teach the kids. Im not saying that all institutes are like this but most are. I have worked side by side with plenty of freshly trained mechanics like your self and they only last a couple months becuase they cant hack it. The only reason why they got the job in the first place(like you mentioned) is because they are certfied and have a tool box. If you have worked in a dealership you would know that by now. Being certified means you are smart on paper that doesnt mean you can work on a car.

On another note you are going to piss off numerous of smart members on this forum that could actually help you with issues that a certified technician should have no problem dealing with. So i would re-frain from making threads like this one and be more respectful to the members of this forum. When you have issues simply state them and wait for a response. You will get more help and your thread wont be filled with people bashing you.

I nominate this member be banned from this forum. It is already filled with people like this and it doesnt need anymore.

[l0nestar]

Boy did this turn OT..

Mott,A lot of what you are saying could also be used to describe 'degreed' people (not just techs) in general.

[mott6904]

Mott,A lot of what you are saying could also be used to describe 'degreed' people (not just techs) in general.

Very very true. My buddy and i were just talking about this lastnight since he was s*** canned becuase he was being replaced by someone with no expeirence but has a degree.

I was simply stating that he should stop saying "ASE certfied" because most real mechanics think it is a joke. Yes if they want to make any money as a mechanic they will need to be ase certified only because the customer and employee thinks it looks good to have a little plaque on the wall showing off your credintials. He just took it to heart it wasnt meant to degrade him in any way.

I think it is retarded that he makes a thread stated "this forum is no help" because he couldn't get his sr running right. When asked what the issue is about his rb he states that his wipers are not working right but they work before the swap. Well since you dont have to mess up with the wiper circuit he must have really rigged something. Being an ASE Certified mechanic would you not start back tracking through your work to see where the mistake was made. How many wires are on a wiper circui, is it really that difficult. Instead he bashes this forum. Now no one is going to want to help me so that will give him one more thing to moan about.

On a different note he has a interesting build and i hope it works out for him, but he will not be recieving any advice from me. I dont see a reason to waste my time in helping him with his problems.
Modified by mott6904 at 9:37 PM 10/12/2009

[Beanstalk]

WoW I can already tell you are full of s***... Way to go throwing all ur creds out there like that was what I was trying to get at. I never went to school I was an airframer in the USN Hydraulics was my specialty. I am not a master tech but I could study up and become one. Working on cars is my HOBBY!! remember this. I singed up for the tests with NO training and passed in the 95 percentile. And I did " Backtrack" through my work and all the wiring schematics were not accurate to my car... I dont care how good of a tech you think you are you cant just look at a wire a guess where it goes and what it does. With that said you could test for continuity between wires but if you have 5 pins on a component your SOL. So dont make this thread a d!ck swinging contest thats not why I started b****ing in the first place. I appoligized and made ammends if you cant accept that than tough s***... And as for asking for the forum to ban me ?? Really Grow up

[Beanstalk]

Very very true. My buddy and i were just talking about this lastnight since he was s*** canned becuase he was being replaced by someone with no expeirence but has a degree.

I was simply stating that he should stop saying "ASE certfied" because most real mechanics think it is a joke. Yes if they want to make any money as a mechanic they will need to be ase certified only because the customer and employee thinks it looks good to have a little plaque on the wall showing off your credintials. He just took it to heart it wasnt meant to degrade him in any way.

I think it is retarded that he makes a thread stated "this forum is no help" because he couldn't get his sr running right. When asked what the issue is about his rb he states that his wipers are not working right but they work before the swap. Well since you dont have to mess up with the wiper circuit he must have really rigged something. Being an ASE Certified mechanic would you not start back tracking through your work to see where the mistake was made. How many wires are on a wiper circui, is it really that difficult. Instead he bashes this forum. Now no one is going to want to help me so that will give him one more thing to moan about.

On a different note he has a interesting build and i hope it works out for him, but he will not be recieving any advice from me. I dont see a reason to waste my time in helping him with his problems.

Modified by mott6904 at 9:37 PM 10/12/2009

And where did you get I couldnt get my sr running right ??? My sr ran fine and I have an rb now .... Fuk it you win.....

[mott6904]

I had an sr and no help.

Right there is a good indication you couldnt get your sr running right.

Yea you can use a multimeter and check continuity.... 5 wires lets guess power, inter.,low, high, washers......any more brain busters.....

Oh and Im curious about how im full of s***? You got my creds. when you assumed i wasnt certified. If you had no training and you could pass the tests you should know that being ase certified is a joke. There needs to be a test that seperates real mechanics from the backyard mechanics.
Modified by mott6904 at 7:34 PM 10/13/2009

[Beanstalk]

Right there is a good indication you couldnt get your sr running right.

Yea you can use a multimeter and check continuity.... 5 wires lets guess power, inter.,low, high, washers......any more brain busters.....

Oh and Im curious about how im full of s***? You got my creds. when you assumed i wasnt certified. If you had no training and you could pass the tests you should know that being ase certified is a joke. There needs to be a test that seperates real mechanics from the backyard mechanics.

...I really dont think your getting what I'm saying dude... And as far as asking you anything I'm having a hard time finding anywhere in this post where I asked you a dam thing. But like I said your turning this thread into a d!ck swinging contest.. let me reiterate ..... YOU WIN!! With that said don't be all pissy that I can pass tests that other people cant. I will never say that getting certs is a joke. It's peice of mind for customers your employer and most of all yourself. I'm sorry that you feel so incomplete with your ASE's but wake the f*** up.... You have nothing more you can accomplish in your profession...lol Seriously the jokes on you ........ But you just hang in there lil` buddy s***'ll buff out

Modified by mott6904 at 7:34 PM 10/13/2009

[stevespeed]

Drama in RB land.

ahhhhhhhhhhh I miss racebread :-(

[eh?]

Drama in RB land.

ahhhhhhhhhhh I miss racebread :-(

Jon was a Drama Queen

[Kansei240sx]

Lol, lots of ASE haters here. I suppose there is a difference between ASE certified and Master Certified with L1 passed which makes you an MDT.

3 years before i was an ASE Master with my L1 finished to be a Master Diagnostic Tech, and before i even with to a university for Toyota training, i did my own work and swap. Helping yourself and outsourcing all possible resources is your own crutch to use to get yourself walking again.

Everyone here that keeps pouring crap out their mouths and stuff "creds" is stupid. I've met ASE masters and just ASE cert, techs that dont know s*** about alot of things and some of them are geniuses. Its all about how much information you've retained and how long you've had that status.

I've been doing this for 8 years and the last 3 of them for Toyota and have my own tuning business on the side. I still dont know everything and dont claim to, you can learn something from someone doing this crap for 2 minutes as far as im concerned. Dont be conceited and keep your eyes and ears open to new stuff.

Its a shame this place has turn the bad side of its head when crap like this comes up and gets all butt hurt when this sort of thing happens.

If you want some advice or some help send me an Email or hit me up on aim and i might be able to point you in a viable direction with your swap.

[Shocker]

You know I didn't read much of this thread but I figured I'd throw my 2 cents in away. Over all I feel the RB section on Nico is one of the BEST forums on the internet for help, and for opinions, especially for our motors. Most of the posters in this section are mature, providing solid responses, and are as helpful as they can be.

My tuner Kyle came on here to bring up some of the issues we ran into with my car, and he even said how good of a forum this was. How the responses he got were very mature, and helpful, no BS.

As far as the U.S. goes I feel there still is a good deal of RB information that isn't all out there widely know, and at least all factual but this forum seems to sift through most of the BS, and issues finding solutions if need be. These issues seem to be brought more to the table as people switch from BPU to APU. I feel like the RB is only a good 7-8 years old in the states. Motor swaps becoming more common these last few years, so its still relatively new to quite a few people. To have the following the RB has with some of the coolest/helpful car people out there IMO is saying something.

[Beanstalk]

Lol, lots of ASE haters here. I suppose there is a difference between ASE certified and Master Certified with L1 passed which makes you an MDT.

3 years before i was an ASE Master with my L1 finished to be a Master Diagnostic Tech, and before i even with to a university for Toyota training, i did my own work and swap. Helping yourself and outsourcing all possible resources is your own crutch to use to get yourself walking again.

Everyone here that keeps pouring crap out their mouths and stuff "creds" is stupid. I've met ASE masters and just ASE cert, techs that dont know s*** about alot of things and some of them are geniuses. Its all about how much information you've retained and how long you've had that status.

I've been doing this for 8 years and the last 3 of them for Toyota and have my own tuning business on the side. I still dont know everything and dont claim to, you can learn something from someone doing this crap for 2 minutes as far as im concerned. Dont be conceited and keep your eyes and ears open to new stuff.

Its a shame this place has turn the bad side of its head when crap like this comes up and gets all butt hurt when this sort of thing happens.

If you want some advice or some help send me an Email or hit me up on aim and i might be able to point you in a viable direction with your swap.

Thanks for your insight I agree with everything you said. I like your attitude and outlook on this topic. I know I need to figure this stuff out on my own and it looks like I will have to. I asked for advice cuz I'm a single parent and a full time student. This car is my daily and I was only expecting it to be down for a week. It`s been 3 now and it`s finally running and now I have all kinds of electrical probs.. It was running great and I went to take the first drive I turned my headlights on and ... It all went to s***. I have no dash lights and pretty much my car is dead. I checked all fuses and I was told that since I have my battery in my trunk that I need to run a neg wire from my battery to my block/ chass in the engine bay. I only had one engine ground at the time of the problem. So I suck at electrical and I'd like some help figuring out why this happened.

[Darius]

It is not true that you NEED a ground wire from the block to the battery. I know many people with trunk mounted batteries including myself and none of them have had grounding issues or had a return ground wire run back to the trunk.

Grounding wires will not cause issues like you have described. There is an error in the wiring that you will need to track down with a multi-meter. If you are not familiar with wiring or how to use a multi-meter and its various functions, this is a perfect opportunity to learn. Wiring and electrical systems are intimidating at first, but you'll pull through it.

[stevespeed]

It is not true that you NEED a ground wire from the block to the battery. I know many people with trunk mounted batteries including myself and none of them have had grounding issues or had a return ground wire run back to the trunk.

Grounding wires will not cause issues like you have described. There is an error in the wiring that you will need to track down with a multi-meter. If you are not familiar with wiring or how to use a multi-meter and its various functions, this is a perfect opportunity to learn. Wiring and electrical systems are intimidating at first, but you'll pull through it.

Agreed

I was massively scared of wiring and welding before I tried it,

My harness looks like s***, but well I made it through, experience comes with time, dive in, whats the worst that can happen?