The unemployment debate - Your thoughts?

[stebo0728]

I hope you are right, Im just pointing out that nasty little things like this tend to creep in, deals backstage are made, and like a frog slowly boiled in the pot, you all of a sudden find yourself with legislation worth cleaning your bum with.

[smockers83]

Aint no sunshine till their gone , .
Thank NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT & The WTO. for our job's in u.s. going out of the country .
Hate to say it but the radio flyer little red wagon aint comming back ..Want work , go overseas were our collage grad's have to find work now . Or find a fusion center or government job ..Who's hiring ? the government , Thats who . I wouldnt expect miracle's from our facist government like creating job;s by printing money . Thats a funny one . lol. . Everything they do is reverse of what we actaully need. It's only going to get worse for awhile yet baby , whew . Good luck on the job hunting ..my daughter has a 4 year u.w. degree and stocks shelves at Fred Meyer ..She's living the amerikan dream now . I mean what our the numbers now ? about 22 percent . its only going to grow from here on out !austerity for all............

OMG - HAHA - Not sure if the absolute dog a** bad grammar and spelling were unintentional or meant for sarcastic effect. Anyway in response, I agree with some of the statements, but I cant agree with the attitude. The Declaration of Independence charges us to overthrow a government that has fallen to despotism. How do we do that? The ballot box. We dont run and hide, or give up, thats not the amerikan spirit. If you wanna split your more than welcome but I can aid in spreading that sort of sentiment. We have to take back washington, and some part of me, whether delusional or not, believes it to still be possible.

What that person states isn't true. Since the inception of NAFTA, the US has seen net job growth, meaning we've gained a hell of a lot more jobs than what we lost. And I will almost always side on the free trade side. It's the best thing economically one can do, it's comparative advantage. We can reallocate our resources elsewhere, goods become cheaper, etc. Taxes aren't going to bring jobs back that went overseas, nor are eliminating trade agreements. The only way you'll bring that capital back is if it becomes cheaper in the US. The true fact of the matter is is that capital in the US has become more expensive than it is to manufacture overseas and ship it in. This can be due to a number of reasons, such as the increased education levels of our country, unions, so on and so forth.

[stebo0728]

Smockers, I agree with you. The sentiments the poster had about only the government doing the hiring right now, that wasnt far off base. The attack on free trade was way off base though, I agree.

[wingFeather]

Nico nazi's cant handle the truth !

This is actually one of the better moderated Nissan boards I am on

[stebo0728]

gotta love how ya get 47 worker's abraod for the price of one here . Do the nafta dance .. looks people have no idea what free trade actually is . to funny. Ban me again you misguided fool's lol. i love the way you guys select only what you want to hack on to make your ltittle mind's feel alot better and dumb down your reader's . .You make me laugh you goy toy's , lmao// id leave this place but to many people being hoodwinked here by phoney pavlovian people such as the meek mod's
Nico nazi's cant handle the truth !

Did anyone hear that .... like a breeze blowing through the alley?

[stebo0728]

And there's some serious mind-games going on when failing to extend a tax break = a tax increase. That's patently absurd.

Is it then patently absurd to label "jobs NOT lost" as "jobs CREATED" ?

[IBCoupe]

Almost. I'd say that the tax breaks, having been intended to be temporary to begin with, are a bit different.

[stebo0728]

Almost. I'd say that the tax breaks, having been intended to be temporary to begin with, are a bit different.

So was the income tax ... someone decided that was worth keeping, tho for the life of me I cant figure the hell out why!

[IBCoupe]

That was a heck of a tangent there.

[stebo0728]

Tangent? You mean it touches this debate in only one point? Or maybe an arctangent, it touches this debate and one other debate at one point? Trig was always tricky to me

[IBCoupe]

Tangent in that it completely derailed the course of the conversation.

And I don't remember anything from trig, either. Don't feel bad.

[stebo0728]

Oh a rabbit trail? Haha those are the one thing I am absolutely good for.