The Really!? Thread

[HashiriyaS14]

Weed does seriously need to be legal. We spend too much busting weed dealers and users.

I want to see Pillsbury Happy Brownie mix for sale at grocery stores. Just regulate it like booze.

At least people don't smoke weed and hit their kids, unlike alcohol. All that would happen is that domestic frito consumption would increase. It IS harmless in moderation.

Lots of other things are relatively harmless in moderation but harmful in excess and they're still legal (i.e. alcohol, tobacco, butter, taking things seriously).

I agree with WD's "if you don't like it, don't do it" philosophy, but anyone on here who knows me is already aware of this.

[WDRacing]

anyone on here who knows me is already aware of this.

You and a few others assisted my "change" in thought process. Do what you, just don't do it in a manner that bothers me. I wouldn't make out with my wife in front of your kids, so I expect Gays to do the same. I won't smoke weed around people that don't want me to, or that it bothers. But I'll light a 6' water bong in my backyard, grill some burgers and listen to great music ALL day.

Better that then worry about what everyone else is doing and how I can enforce my personal opinions on their lives.

[Jacko3]

You link me to an article that basically says that people who are chronic ganja smokers could potentially be at a higher risk of testicular cancer than that of a normal person. THIS ONE STUDY(i dont want to go in depth with you and research the study, this is just to easy to need more ammunition) says that rates of testicular cancer doubled for a pot head Vs a normal person.

There is no direct link between Testicular cancer and Chronic weed smoking. In addition, 8,100 people will be diagnosed with TC this year.

Thats your defense? That one study says that MJ has a correlation with a higher level of testicular cancer. Correlation does not imply causation. With the tiny level of MJ available for testing, any study like this must come under serious scrutiny because of government regulations over MJ. It is classified as a type 1 narcotic, same as Heroine, ect ect. Testing its effects legally and for scientific purposes is nearly impossible to get grants or approval for, therefor, little to no scientific data exists on the effects of MJ smoking. There is still 1000's of years worth of anecdotal evidence to support the theory that its pretty much benign.

~0.0053% of men in America will be diagnosed with Testicular Cancer this year.

So lets say that its true, MJ causes double the amount of testicular cancer. Im going to take a ball park estimate and say that.. 20 percent of America could be considered as chronic smokers at least one point in their lives. Thats 60,764,928 people. Since this study effects only men, im going to cut that number in half. Were now left with 30,382,464 people. We already know the number of people diagnosed with testicular cancer per year, thats 8,100. Lets reduce it by 80 percent, to 'scale' these numbers down. Comes up with 1,620 people of those 30,382,464 who would normally be diagnosed with TC and have a ~0.0053% chance of being diagnosed.

So ill double that number to humor your argument, and we come up with 3,240 chronic smokers that will be diagnosed with TC this year. That puts the percentage of chronic smokers diagnosed with TC this year up to ~.0107.

This percentage is, surprise! Very freaken close!

~350 people died from TC last year. This is because of newer technology such as linear accelerators(really cool machines) and the ever progressing field of oncology. That means, 70 of those deaths COULD have been caused by chronic weed use.

So your argument is basically that, because there is a POSSIBILITY that a ~.0054% difference in the rate that a chronic weed smoker gets diagnosed with testicular cancer vs the non smoker exists, it should be illegal? Because POSSIBLY 70 additional people died because of TC during a year because of their own choices Herb should be illegal?

Oh man.. I really want to continue on why you fail so hard but, i think im going to leave it at this and see how you reply.

Modified by 480sx at 3:51 PM 2/26/2009

I have no idea about drug classifications--never tried it before. But I do know that MJ can ruin the soul. I ha da friend run out of the house, bare naked, after a round of MJ that hit the spot, really good. Ever since, talk about how good MJ is, to the body, is cheap.

[breadbox]

If you have a negative opinion about "Marijuana", read the united states ordered study of weed, called the schaffer report. In which it outlines the marijuana problem.

http://www.druglibrary.org/Sch...u.htm
Modified by breadbox at 5:34 PM 3/5/2009

[WDRacing]

I have no idea about drug classifications--never tried it before. But I do know that MJ can ruin the soul. I ha da friend run out of the house, bare naked, after a round of MJ that hit the spot, really good. Ever since, talk about how good MJ is, to the body, is cheap.

Smoking pot doesn't make you run around naked. You're either a liar or he was on meth. Also, you don't have to "try" drugs to classify them genious. Stop debating a topic you're completely ignorant about. Perhaps you'd be better served in the G forum man...

[480sx]

I have no idea about drug classifications--never tried it before.

But I do know that MJ can ruin the soul.

Oh thats showing great logical reasoning ability. You are really worth my time.

I ha da friend run out of the house, bare naked, after a round of MJ that hit the spot, really good. Ever since, talk about how good MJ is, to the body, is cheap.

Your friend was already a nut job. This does not surprise me. MJ did not cause him to run out of the house naked, his crazy a** brain that had an over the top manic reaction to the drug did.

Again, its not really a big surprise to me that someone you would call a friend that smoked pot went nuts. This does not mean weeds ruins the soul, X( where X is equal to a personal attack). For everyone one person who smokes weed and goes nuts, there are 10000 people who smoke weed and it has help them keep their sanity during times of their lives, believe it or not.

Trees, especially when smoked by patients who exhibit traits of Bi-Polar disorder, or have manic episodes, or skitzo traits, has been known to exacerbate their prior condition resulting in a 'Super Mania' condition on rare occasions. Occasions where their brain function was already that of a near manic state, and the sticky pushes them over the edge.

On the real though, I dont really give a fvk what your personal opinions are on weed, because they are superseded by reality. You still have yet to come back with anything that resembles a well thought out argument, just more blather as you are so fond of doing.

[breadbox]

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Modified by breadbox at 5:35 PM 3/5/2009