The R36 GTR (r35 GTR) a HUGE PILE OF s***?

[REDWINTERZ]

I stumbled on this forum... Got lost on my way to the Z32 section

Are the headlights of the R390 the same as the Z32?

[jbracy7]

ive driven one. not a track or any thing . just around the lot when i was detailing one. never got over 6 mph. i was so fu**ing excited that i drove one.i was high on gtr for weeks

[jbracy7]

i dont think any one knows in person they look bigger than z32's

[Gold Digger]

i dont think any one knows in person they look bigger than z32's

My R33 V-Spec is bigger than a Z32...

[Mettler]

R390 doesn't count. Even when the Lemans changed their homologous rules Nissan gave up on it. Nissan on made 2 production vehicles, one kept to themselves.

But to credit the R390... it's technology went into both the Z32 and the R32.

Yeah and now Nissan V8 engine swaps are proving to be the ultimate conversion within the Nissan family

[raremotive]

Yeah and now Nissan V8 engine swaps are proving to be the ultimate conversion within the Nissan family

yeah, if I ever get my hands on a VK56, I'm going to do some really really dirty things to it.

[Mettler]

What, like drop it in a Datsun 510 to create the ultimate deathmachine?

But to credit the R390... it's technology went into both the Z32 and the R32.

P.S. the R390 came out in 1997/1998, Z32 and R32 in 1989. You could say the R390 was the culmination of Nissan's best racing technology at the time!

[raremotive]

Doesn't matter, any car would be lighter than the Titan and it will be down right gnarly...

P.S. the R390 came out in 1997/1998, Z32 and R32 in 1989. You could say the R390 was the culmination of Nissan's best racing technology at the time!

Touche.

[raremotive]

Some reason it was stuck in my mind the R390 was first, not the spawn of the R32 and Z32 ... and in a way the Q45..

[neobluepill]

I feel like the skyline gives you that feel, at least the 1st few times driving the thing, is the "35" that much more noticeably a deifier of physics? How much quieter is the 35 then the 32? Does it justify the 2 tons?

It'll make your E36 feel like a VW Bus.

But you have to drive it WAY beyond what you think it can handle.

Even the Nissan Factory Driver that I rode in it with said it's hard to push it to its limits, because we're hard-wired not to trust the electronics.

BTW, we were holding a conversation at normal volume, with the windows down, at 135mph.

[neobluepill]

Thank you for that point of view.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjXgKg358ZE

Nice example how the both tuned R34 and R35. The R34 with the lead could not shake the R35.

Only downfall for the R35 the transmission.

Quite franky. I don't care. This is the first time Nissan marketed the rear transmission. Like all firsts, it's not perfect. And second MCR took the car out of the design parameters of the transmission.

Nissan will get better and us, enthusiast will gather better knowledge of how to deal with the weak links. History has proven to repeat itself.

[neobluepill]

That was another reason that the 35 bothered me. From what I have herd, the 32 was liked in size and weight, the 33 was a bit bulky, so when they made the 34 they went back to the recipe that everyone liked. If thats true, why the size and the weight of the 35? I would have thought Nissan would learn from a lesson. Is it that the marketing department over at Nissan knew that the people buying them wouldn't care? What do you guys think?

My R33 V-Spec is bigger than a Z32...

[raremotive]

It's size is adequate. It's very chassis is being used in GT500 competitions and it has been winning. As a matter fact, the track width on the GT car has been increased. Nissan isn't trying to make the Shelby Cobra... it's making GT class cars.. and none that they came out with have been exactly the lightest or compact. Finally, the R32 is still the lightest and smaller of the GTR's.

There isn't a lesson. Only optimization in car design. Each time it's better in it's own way. Just like the 350z and the 370z.

[Count Zero]

Wow you are good with the typing skills. I voiced my opinion, to see what people had to say, start a debate, gain some knowledge.

No you didn't.You came in here to rant like a 2 year old and hoped that someone would back you up so you could feel good about yourself.

If you truly cared about "gain some knowledge" you could easily have done it on your own.

You'd typically have been labeled a troll, but you're not clever enough for that, I don't think.

Quote » I am typing from America, not sure where you are but hear speech is free(so i did it).[/quote]Something that someone I know once said way back in the Usenet days:"Before expressing your right to free speech, you really should have something worth saying first. Sadly, you don't."

Quote »And to say that you would enjoy seeing me get into a car accident because I was mis-informed, or have bad typing skills is the dumbest thing I have herd. Were all on hear to talk about what we love; no??? [/quote]No, the comment about enjoying seeing you DIAF had nothing to do with what you do or don't know.It's that you present yourself as a moron with a childish attitude.

[AZhitman]

I feel like the skyline gives you that feel, at least the 1st few times driving the thing, is the "35" that much more noticeably a deifier of physics? How much quieter is the 35 then the 32? Does it justify the 2 tons?

Dude, they aren't even in the same class.

You're talking about a car that set lap records on The 'Ring.

No car defies the laws of physics. Not even a GTR.

"Quieter" is relative and impossible to quantify without controls in place and measuring equipment.

Two tons? Who cares. It'll spank all prior GT-R iterations, so who cares how much it weighs?

Seriously, I still don't understand what you're getting at.

[Gold Digger]

That was another reason that the 35 bothered me. From what I have herd, the 32 was liked in size and weight, the 33 was a bit bulky, so when they made the 34 they went back to the recipe that everyone liked. If thats true, why the size and the weight of the 35? I would have thought Nissan would learn from a lesson. Is it that the marketing department over at Nissan knew that the people buying them wouldn't care? What do you guys think?

A common misconception of the R33 was that it was "so much heavier" than the 32 and the 34. In all reality, the BCNR33 GT-R was only 200lbs heavier, due mostly to its longer and wider body. The back seat has more legroom than the previous and succeding GT-Rs. It was only rated at 280 due to the Gentleman's agreement, but was closer to the 315 mark, according to an employee of Nissan who is a friend of mine. The R33 didn't have any problems moving that much weight around.

And, the R33 was the first production car to lap the Nuremburg ring in under 8 minutes. I don't think the R34 did that.

But, that isn't really relative to your post. The R35 is a bigger car, yes. But, it's only 400lbs heavier than an R33. With 500hp sitting in the engine bay, that's not a whole lot of weight to worry about.

[neobluepill]

It seems to me that the addition of some extra weight may have helped with high speed stability issues. That wouldn't surprise me a whole lot, it seems like its been the case with the m3 and the ctsv. I think doing that will change a cars handling characteristics drastically and i am not a fan of the end result.

With the extra weight, I think car manufacturers need to try and hide it. By way of easier power power steering and such. As of late, I find less and less your really put into the car, and more like telling a car what to do. Maybe its progress in the industry, but honestly, who hear after work gets in there car for a joy ride and gets to go over 120mph for any length of time?

I like opening my cars up, however something that doesn't give you good feel at safe limits on the road is not very fun for me.

A common misconception of the R33 was that it was "so much heavier" than the 32 and the 34. In all reality, the BCNR33 GT-R was only 200lbs heavier, due mostly to its longer and wider body. The back seat has more legroom than the previous and succeding GT-Rs. It was only rated at 280 due to the Gentleman's agreement, but was closer to the 315 mark, according to an employee of Nissan who is a friend of mine. The R33 didn't have any problems moving that much weight around.

And, the R33 was the first production car to lap the Nuremburg ring in under 8 minutes. I don't think the R34 did that.

But, that isn't really relative to your post. The R35 is a bigger car, yes. But, it's only 400lbs heavier than an R33. With 500hp sitting in the engine bay, that's not a whole lot of weight to worry about.

[jrhdohc]

The issue of weight and price has always plagued the GTR. These are not new issues and don't diminish it's potential. The car was never a light weight handling machine (RX-7 filled that niche) It's a Japanese muscle car. The Japanese are proud of that... and who wouldn't be? Americans' muscle car is the ultra low quality Mustang. It's not the exotic/supercar comparison everyone claims. It's a high quality muscle car that is faster than most exotics. Don't be brain washed by car magazines and hype.

Whether or not the GTR is related to the FairladyZ or not is a mindless argument. Yes, the old school FairladyZ, Silvia, Skyline, and Skyline GTR are related. They all share suspension, computer, exterior, and powertrain engineering and design! (SR20 was the exception but compare the CA, VG, and RB) So, it's no wonder the new generation GTR, Skyline, and FairladyZ share engineering and design.

[svairman]

Nice to meet everyone else in hear. Thank you for all the time you guys spent typing out all the great info. I really appreciate it, theirs no one I talk to around me that knows anything about anything(mostly people that drive Honda (s)).

If anyone else has any other good points on the subject please post them I am all ears.

your a freaking idiot, your mocking him and you can't even spell HERE as in this place, not hear like what you do with your ears.

[sean@z1]

$58,680.56 (¥ 5.26000 million) Got you a 1989 v spec gtr. In 1989. Thats $102,376.88 in today's money

Does anyone have any opinion on this opinion?

Just to clear something up as well. I own the first year of a vspec Skyline and it is not a 89, It is a 1993. Before that was the Nismo ed. and the N1 car. Yes the 89 GTR was like 5 million yen when it first came out the S13 silvia was 2.8 million yen for a K's in 1988 so. the GTR has never been a cheap car.

[MellowZ32]

hey OP just out of curiosity would you care to show us your R-32and post a list of mods?

[neobluepill]

hey OP just out of curiosity would you care to show us your R-32and post a list of mods?

No prob, Ill post it up.

[neobluepill]

your a freaking idiot, your mocking him and you can't even spell HERE as in this place, not hear like what you do with your ears.

No I'm not an idiot, I know I'm not a good speller, thanks.

[MellowZ32]

it's been four days and yet no pix!!!!!!!!!!WTF?!?!?

[MellowZ32]

six days!I'm getting tired of holding my breath!

[dasoupdude]

six days!I'm getting tired of holding my breath!

He can't find a decent picture on photobucket

[MellowZ32]

seriously I just passed out from holding my breath!!!!

where are those pictures of your car?!?!?!?!?!?

[Gold Digger]

I got $1 says he doesn't own one. He would have posted by now...it's been over a week.

[svairman]

OP is obviously a stupid **** so why keep bumping this thread and giving him more attention?

[sean@z1]

I have One



Actually it is more like i have 4
Modified by sean@z1 at 3:08 PM 2/1/2010