The R36 GTR (r35 GTR) a HUGE PILE OF s***?

[neobluepill]

Have you even seen a R35 in person? Just go stand next to one and tell me it looks like the same as any other chassis out there.

Going with the glue.

Yeah I stood next to it took it all in (like glue!), and it does not look like anything else out except the G37 maybe (with circle lights).

[neobluepill]

I think you overwhelmed neobluepill with knowledge and facts

Needed facts, thanks everyone.

[themadscientist]

I hate the R35 but I must say your textual fumblings and complete and utter unequivocal lack of knowledge about what you are talking about yet at the same time in possession of a baseless adamant opinion are much more irritating then the gizmo-R. Please immediately purchase one and crash it into a tree so I might enjoy a two for one.

[Gold Digger]

I hate the R35 but I must say your textual fumblings and complete and utter unequivocal lack of knowledge about what you are talking about yet at the same time in possession of a baseless adamant opinion are much more irritating then the gizmo-R. Please immediately purchase one and crash it into a tree so I might enjoy a two for one.

Get back in your hole, troll!

[themadscientist]

Respect your elders youngun. When I was your age Skylines only powered the rear wheels and we were happy! We also ate dirt and walked uphill to school both ways in the snow, but did we complain? Well, yes actually, but nobody cared!

[Gold Digger]

Ummm, you aren't that much older than me. Are you?

How's the states, my friend?

[themadscientist]

Just got back from the shooting range, my guns are fun. The wife enjoyed her birthday gift, Walther P22. She proceeded to put 99 of 100 rounds in the black too. I better treat her nice or she will put a cap in my a**.

[Gold Digger]

Nice!

When you headed back this way, and how long is your layover at Narita?

[themadscientist]

like an hour or so then right back on the plane. We get home at 8ish. I have to get caught up at work and then get ready for the open house. Wife picked up the key right before she flew over here. It's done and ready for us to start moving in.

[Gold Digger]

Nice. Enjoy it! New houses rock.

We'll have to come by next time we hit the island.

/threadjack.

[neobluepill]

I hate the R35 but I must say your textual fumblings and complete and utter unequivocal lack of knowledge about what you are talking about yet at the same time in possession of a baseless adamant opinion are much more irritating then the gizmo-R. Please immediately purchase one and crash it into a tree so I might enjoy a two for one.

Wow you are good with the typing skills. I voiced my opinion, to see what people had to say, start a debate, gain some knowledge. I am typing from America, not sure where you are but hear speech is free(so i did it). And to say that you would enjoy seeing me get into a car accident because I was mis-informed, or have bad typing skills is the dumbest thing I have herd. Were all on hear to talk about what we love; no???

[neobluepill]

Nice to meet everyone else in hear. Thank you for all the time you guys spent typing out all the great info. I really appreciate it, theirs no one I talk to around me that knows anything about anything(mostly people that drive Honda (s)).

If anyone else has any other good points on the subject please post them I am all ears.

[slipknot555_666_69]

Why badge The new TT version of the 300zx-350z-370z a skyline? Why would Nissan give in to a marketing department for the 1st time in a major way? Who thinks this car is "cool"? Did the end of group A kill the GTR? How on earth can you people that own these new 300zx tt 2+2 cars think that a paddle shifter is great(Cuz it shifts faster then you can??? If you were one of the ppl that bought this car would you still have bought it if it was labeled the 370z tt 2+2? for the same amount of money or was the $50 badge what did it? What story's did salesman at the dealership tell you about the blood lines of the car(that don't exist)? Hows that sat nav working out for you? Are you ok that the car is heavier then the 32,33,34,35? Do you ppl that own the car own the newest m3 as a 2nd car? I need answers.Thank you

GO BACK TO THE HONDA FORUMS

[Gold Digger]

Wow you are good with the typing skills. I voiced my opinion, to see what people had to say, start a debate, gain some knowledge. I am typing from America, not sure where you are but hear speech is free(so i did it). And to say that you would enjoy seeing me get into a car accident because I was mis-informed, or have bad typing skills is the dumbest thing I have herd. Were all on hear to talk about what we love; no???

The thing is, though, is that all the information we gave you is easily available on the internet. A bit of research could yeild you mass amounts of info. But you voiced an opinion before doing said research which made you look un-prepared, and the wolves feasted.

You wanted to be given information instead of taking a bit of time researching what you were asking, that's why some of the people that posted as harshly as they did.

It's all out there, everything you want to know about the Skyline (and it's history) as well as the Fairlady Z (and its history, too). Just need to spend a bit more time looking before making uneducated statements.

As for themadscientist, don't worry about him. He's just an old crotchety fart that also likes debating, but tends to bring guns to a knife fight.

[themadscientist]

Hey! I resemble that remark.

[Bootstrap]

I am typing from America, not sure where you are but hear speech is free(so i did it).

So your one of the stereotypical "AMERICAN f*** YEAH!!!!!" type then huh?I live in the U.S. to as do most of us, idk how you manage to even get the internet with your lack of intelligence, I'm sorry Nissan has better motors then Chevy and ford and dodge, but you just gotta live with it, no need to be a racist against such great cars. Try doing some research with your newly discovered tool (Internets) instead of starting fights with a major lack of knowledge on the topic

kthnxbaii go eat cheezeburger

P.S. Your English sucks.

[raremotive]

So your one of the stereotypical "AMERICAN f*** YEAH!!!!!" type then huh?I live in the U.S. to as do most of us, idk how you manage to even get the internet with your lack of intelligence, I'm sorry Nissan has better motors then Chevy and ford and dodge, but you just gotta live with it, no need to be a racist against such great cars. Try doing some research with your newly discovered tool (Internets) instead of starting fights with a major lack of knowledge on the topic

kthnxbaii go eat cheezeburger

P.S. Your English sucks.

I think he is now aware that even if free speech is protected. He still is dealt the consequences. His word value to another ear is become worthless. And his own image to another is tarnished. And respect for him will not be spared. Which in turn is the cost of "free" speech.

So stop beating the dead whore (the topic).

[Seanzyyy]

lol at OP

[neobluepill]

Appreciate the critique. I will read around some more b4 posting, but searching the forums has always been confusing for me I haven't got a strategy down for it. I'm not on them much, to busy working to pay for my cars/bills, I guess.

The thing is, though, is that all the information we gave you is easily available on the internet. A bit of research could yeild you mass amounts of info. But you voiced an opinion before doing said research which made you look un-prepared, and the wolves feasted.

You wanted to be given information instead of taking a bit of time researching what you were asking, that's why some of the people that posted as harshly as they did.

It's all out there, everything you want to know about the Skyline (and it's history) as well as the Fairlady Z (and its history, too). Just need to spend a bit more time looking before making uneducated statements.

As for themadscientist, don't worry about him. He's just an old crotchety fart that also likes debating, but tends to bring guns to a knife fight.

[neobluepill]

Just curious, who in hear would rather drive the gtr over a Skyline (gtr)? I mean if the money really didn't mater.

[EgoManiac77]

really don't want to be a hater, but once again if u would have done just a lil research u would find that almost all professionals that have driven the R35 against the R34 agree that the 35 is more of a luxury car and deviates from the pure race feel that all other GTRs have.

[AZhitman]

Yeah.

And it'll hand an R34 its a$$ all day long.

Really, there's way too much babbling in this thread from people who dont know what they're talking about.

Drive one on a track, at speed, and you'll see. Until then, you may as well be discussing macrame projects.

[neobluepill]

I know what they all said I have watched this car develop from rumors, to leaked pictures to concept cars. I have watched every review, looked it over, seen an acquaintance take off in the thing (herd it and its nice). When I first started hearing rumors that they were planning on launching the car under the Infinity brand and gearing it to a more expensive (and comfortable) market, I knew what was going to happen, and it did. I have been soaking all of it in. My topic in this thread was not about me being completely ignorant about the Nissan world, it was about not knowing how much tec the gtr shared with the newer Z cars. Like if the motors were the same block after all is striped away, and now I know they are, the shape of all the under-pinnings, now I know that stuff is a bit different. After reading everything Nissan over the past god knows how long and hearing that the 350z was being used as a test bed for the new GTR I wanted to know what else they shared. This is because of a progression I saw; 350z - 350z with more power and rumors that the engine internals were r&d for a new GTR - a 370z that now had more power and a bigger motor - the G35x and G37x - witch looked to me like the z cars (with all weal drive for the most part) And now we get a 3.8v6 (now I know, with the same motor just beefed up). So that's were I am coming from. I know about the watering down, I do not understand why our government puts the car industry in such a position where a car company needs to base its build decisions on a market not on "this is what we offer". I was so excited when I herd GM was going to fall and so horrified that we were not going to let it happen. I'm tired of getting cars that should have been so much better.

[neobluepill]

I will go drive one then. I will let you know when I do, but I know what I'm going to say. Its was sick, unreal, a monster. That is the same thing I said after I drove my E36 to the BMW dealership and got the v8 m3 up past a 100 on some twisty roads. Now I will be driving my R32 to a Nissan dealer and doing the same thing. Ill tell you what, I would put money on the fact that the same will happen on the way home after driving the new gtr as did what happened with the new M3.

Ill get back in my car, take a windy road home and say wow this thing really cant compare with the speed and handling of the new one, but Its just so much better; its a drivers car.

[AZhitman]

It'll make your E36 feel like a VW Bus.

But you have to drive it WAY beyond what you think it can handle.

Even the Nissan Factory Driver that I rode in it with said it's hard to push it to its limits, because we're hard-wired not to trust the electronics.

BTW, we were holding a conversation at normal volume, with the windows down, at 135mph.

[raremotive]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjXgKg358ZE

Nice example how the both tuned R34 and R35. The R34 with the lead could not shake the R35.

Only downfall for the R35 the transmission.

Quite franky. I don't care. This is the first time Nissan marketed the rear transmission. Like all firsts, it's not perfect. And second MCR took the car out of the design parameters of the transmission.

Nissan will get better and us, enthusiast will gather better knowledge of how to deal with the weak links. History has proven to repeat itself.

[Gold Digger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjXgKg358ZE

Nice example how the both tuned R34 and R35. The R34 with the lead could not shake the R35.

Only downfall for the R35 the transmission.

Quite franky. I don't care. This is the first time Nissan marketed the rear transmission. Like all firsts, it's not perfect. And second MCR took the car out of the design parameters of the transmission.

Nissan will get better and us, enthusiast will gather better knowledge of how to deal with the weak links. History has proven to repeat itself.

I have seen MCR's shop and that very GT-R. Three weeks ago, actually. The shop is about a 10 minute drive from my house, located near a karaoke place here in Yashio.

There is a little dude that works there, and when I took a few friends over there he explained that all the carbon fibre trim that was on the car (front lip, side skirts rear diffuser) was made in-house, by him. And it was wet carbon.

Didn't see that particular R34, but there was the red one, and a few other...well, many other...R32, R33 and R34 parts cars just sitting behind the shop.

[raremotive]

I have seen MCR's shop and that very GT-R. Three weeks ago, actually. The shop is about a 10 minute drive from my house, located near a karaoke place here in Yashio.

It's a small world after all. Props to the guy who made the wet carbon (heard it's fun to deal with). It be nice to have some tuning guys near here or at least not drag car mindset all the time. Best, I get is when I message MJR.

[Mettler]

Here is all you really need to know:

1. The "GT-R" has always been, and will always be, the flagship of the Nissan line.

Orly?

[raremotive]

R390 doesn't count. Even when the Lemans changed their homologous rules Nissan gave up on it. Nissan on made 2 production vehicles, one kept to themselves.

But to credit the R390... it's technology went into both the Z32 and the R32.