The Q45: what a stupid car.

[qsiguy]

I agree, my plugs were in decent shape when I pulled them. Reason I changed plugs is that I went one stage cooler to help detonation in my turbo application.

[Haitian_King]

I ran plugs from 69,000 miles til 201,000 miles {132,000 on plugs} and they came out without any difficulty and all looked good- car ran/idled no different with new plugs- only changed them because valvecover gaskets needed to be changed due to seeping oil. Early plug changing is a total waste of time and money, only do them at valve cover reseal time.

Did not know that.

I changed mine because I was having the valve covers resealed. I never had complaints about the Q's "get up and go" before the plugs, but after the change, it was (and still is) a seriously different ride. An associate of mine went and got his plugs changed in his 94 last week. He said it's a big change for him as well. I didn't get a chance to see my old plugs. Could it have been that they were in bad shape?

The VH sounds MEAN at 5k RPM's!

[jamesmost]

quit crying and pony up some $$$$ for the ELF Tools

[Haitian_King]

ELF Tools?

[Desmoquattro]

You guys got lucky with your plugs. Mine were partially seized, as luck would have it number 8 (I think, the one next to the ABS unit) was the worst. I had to soak it overnight with penetrating fluid and use a breaker bar to inch it loose. I had nightmares of broken plugs and stripped threads the whole way through the job, which took me two full days. Made a big difference in idle and startup though, the electrodes were quite worn on the plugs I pulled (yes, platinum tips do erode if you leave them long enough).

But as has been said, it's not that bad compared to most modern stuff. I'd rather work on my Q than most cars from that era to the present. Don't get me started on motorcycles, I've pulled the heads and barrels off my Ducati in less than the time it takes to do the valve adjustment on just about anything else.

[jimbyjimb]

It's pretty amazing how they package liter-bikes these days. Doesn't make it easier to fix, though. My Interceptor isn't too bad, but it's no V-twin!

[Q45denver]

You guys got lucky with your plugs. Mine were partially seized, as luck would have it number 8 (I think, the one next to the ABS unit) was the worst. I had to soak it overnight with penetrating fluid and use a breaker bar to inch it loose. I had nightmares of broken plugs and stripped threads the whole way through the job, which took me two full days. Made a big difference in idle and startup though, the electrodes were quite worn on the plugs I pulled (yes, platinum tips do erode if you leave them long enough).

Good point, Need to remove plugs every decade or so to prevent them from seizing.

[Haitian_King]

Good point, Need to remove plugs every decade or so to prevent them from seizing.

Wait a second. You can leave plugs in for 10 years?!?

I hope I didn't fall for some sort of cruel joke here.

[qship96]

Just do them everytime valvecovers start leaking {5-6 years or 100k} and you will be fine. Be sure to use factory spec NGK plugs as they have a special metal coating on threads to prevent sticking or galling of plugs in head.

My plugs were in for slightly over 6 years and 132,000 miles and came out without difficulty and still looked and performed good. Your results may vary based on engine wear caused blowby {worn rings}

[Haitian_King]

Just do them everytime valvecovers start leaking {5-6 years or 100k} and you will be fine. Be sure to use factory spec NGK plugs as they have a special metal coating on threads to prevent sticking or galling of plugs in head.

My plugs were in for slightly over 6 years and 132,000 miles and came out without difficulty and still looked and performed good. Your results may vary based on engine wear caused blowby {worn rings}

Cool. I just did mine so that's one less thing to worry about. I had to insist on getting the NGK PFR5G-11 plugs. The parts guy kept trying to give me the Iridiums.

[Desmoquattro]

The plugs I pulled out were the fancy factory NGKs. Scratch the "unobtanium" coating theory. Usually you put a drop of motor oil (or spark-plug specific anti-seize compound) on the threads when you install.

[IceCubeFoSho]

You're kidding me right?

Premium Luxury Cars were meant to be worked on by the Premium Luxury Car's Dealer's Mechanics, not just anybody. Bentley owners don't change their own Sparkplugs.

[Jesda]

Except "premium dealer mechanics" these days don't really know anything about the G50.

[carfrk666]

i never had a problem with mine and i took just about everything apart on my car

[DoinkMobb]

You're kidding me right?

Premium Luxury Cars were meant to be worked on by the Premium Luxury Car's Dealer's Mechanics, not just anybody. Bentley owners don't change their own Sparkplugs.

I'm not driving a Premium Luxury Car...it's a Cheap Used Car I picked up because I needed a way to get to work, and I didn't want a Civic or a Corolla. The maintenance is a bit high, but I'd rather attempt it myself than be raped at the dealership.

I'm pretty sure Jay-Z has no problem working on his Bentley...

[maxnix]

I'm not driving a Premium Luxury Car......

Well, not fo rlong, that is certain.

MAybe yhou should put soon to be deceased by it in your profile?

As our guru has said,

"Member's standards vary." - Q45tech

Probably less than 10% of current ever drove a G50 in like new condition, so they have no idea what they are missing.

[Haitian_King]

Probably less than 10% of current ever drove a G50 in like new condition, so they have no idea what they are missing.

Plausible. But, a large percentage of the 90%+ of owners who have not had the pleasure of driving a Q brand new still have that magical thing called an imagination.

The Q's we drive now are amazing. If they weren't, why would we drive them?

[Haitian_King]

I'm not driving a Premium Luxury Car...i

Yes you are.

A retired hooker is still a hooker.

Maybe not the best choice for an analogy, but the gist is there.

You may not have purchased it at the $42k ($50k+ in today's dollars) price way back when. But someone did. Bluebook price may have changed, but the repairs aren't getting any cheaper.

[TBrack]

Haitian king take this as you will, but every time I see you post I get this image of a 17 year old kid who's Q45 is really his dads. You are obviously not an adult and your posts and comments are.... lacking intellectual depth.

Sorry I just had to go there. I'm done now.

[konatown]

This is oh so true, Haitian. In most cases they've gotten more expensive.

And the only Bentley owner I know in this town changes his own oil. Also does that on his Aston Martin.

He owned 2 G50s and loved them for the time period.

[Haitian_King]

Haitian king take this as you will, but every time I see you post I get this image of a 17 year old kid who's Q45 is really his dads. You are obviously not an adult and your posts and comments are.... lacking intellectual depth.

Sorry I just had to go there. I'm done now.

Not very nice. I haven't been 17 for almost 4 years now. I'll be 21 in a couple of weeks.

I purchased my Q myself sir. $3500 well spent on a 92 with 83k on the clock.

You must know some bright 17 year olds. I like to think of my writing as quite articulate and a breath of fresh air in the time of soaring illiteracy rates.

What about my post hinted at my assumed age?

[carfrk666]

Whats wrong with being 17? heck i got my Q when i was 16 and im 19 now and i have had the whole thing apart, head to toe, fully restored, engine rebuilt. dont knock on young kids, some of us know what we are talkin about. and the car is most definatly mine!

[Desmoquattro]

Shaddup ya youngins! What do you know about anything? Use the search button and quit wasting our precious bandwidth! Why back in MY DAY you brats would be lucky if you had shoes to walk in, let alone some fancy CAR.

Says the grizzled 22 year old...

[jimbyjimb]

That cut at the King was completely uncalled for. I find his witty retorts a pleasantry. And, of the posts I've read, his input is also valuable. I don't see how his posts, as a whole, lack intellectual depth, nor have I ever recieved the impression that his car was "his dad's." What specifically in anything he has posted in the arcticle did you find to your annoyance? If you aren't specific how can expect people to change? You can tell more about a person by observing their tact in their criticisms of others than almost anything.

[Haitian_King]

That cut at the King was completely uncalled for. I find his witty retorts a pleasantry. And, of the posts I've read, his input is also valuable. I don't see how his posts, as a whole, lack intellectual depth, nor have I ever recieved the impression that his car was "his dad's." What specifically in anything he has posted in the arcticle did you find to your annoyance? If you aren't specific how can expect people to change? You can tell more about a person by observing their tact in their criticisms of others than almost anything.

Thank you. It is nice to be appreciated.

[Jesda]

Not very nice. I haven't been 17 for almost 4 years now. I'll be 21 in a couple of weeks.

I purchased my Q myself sir. $3500 well spent on a 92 with 83k on the clock.

You must know some bright 17 year olds. I like to think of my writing as quite articulate and a breath of fresh air in the time of soaring illiteracy rates.

What about my post hinted at my assumed age?

Thats about when I got my first Q as well. In 2003 I was 21, and paid $3600. Unfortunately, back then that kind of money got me a 170k neglected nightmare.

$3600 today buys so much more its ridiculous.

[qsiguy]

When I bought my Q I paid over $9k for it. I think that must have been about 2000-2001 era. Guess that wasn't such a good investment financially, lol. Just about every other car I've owned I've either made money on or at least broke even when I sold it. There is no possible way I'll do that with this one. I'm sure I've got well over $20K into it including the purchase price.

[Epod]

I agree with the original poster...I want an engine where there's room get at things to do work...

http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/

[RAP]

I agree with the original poster...I want an engine where there's room get at things to do work...

http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/

Good site. Imagine the size of the crankshaft grinder lathe?

Jack

[Q45tech]

"I'm sure I've got well over $20K into it including the purchase price."

A cheap date compared to the $84,000+ I've got in my 90Q, price + repairs and maintain.

Plus $18,000 in insurance + $36,000 in gasoline. That's $138,000+, about $7700 per year......................sure beats new costs to own of $12,000 per year for a similar lux V8

A new LS450 would cost $87k in just first 5 years of ownership that's $17,400 per year.http://www.edmunds.com/new/200...p=offSure separates the wantabees from those with real money!

Check out a new S550 costing $110,000 over 5 years:http://www.edmunds.com/new/200...p=offThat's $22,000 per year