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Man.. that is a bad car... Im mean, MofD has a point, would love to drive around with room for 3 ladies and be able to murder Vettes and Porches.


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If you really want a fast car that can still hold lots of ladyfriends, go for the 1000+HP Autech Stagea station wagon that was at TAS this year.

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Too much money. By the reg GTR and mod the heck out of it for less.

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andrave wrote:I'd hope he got some change back from 200k or that was ther world's most expensive G35.
Yes. He got some change.

He was actually looking for a new used m3 for less than $40k, but all of the ones around town were supposedly trashed.

I always tried to push him to get a cheap car(less than $10k), and make it fast enough to kill anything else on the road with another $20k.

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I had a G35 for a week, there is no way I'd take a fast cheap car over a fast expensive car. Those things are nice. leather, 6 disc in dash, factory warranty, 280 hp, limited slip, excellent brakes, neutral handling, and a soft enough ride that it didn't spill my gf's coffee.You can add HP but you can't add class...

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G35 is pimpness.. I want one of them too

I love them over the 350Z so much it's not even cool.

350z = BlahG35 = Hottness

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IDK man. Im gonna try to get pops to get that white one. Hope I get to drive it.

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There are lines on the Z that cannot be out-sexed by any car. There are lines on the G that cannot be out-sexed by any car. If I had $35k, I'd be in some trouble deciding which to buy. Or maybe I'd just get another Max. Wheeee.

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Mercs are for lazy British journalists who can even drive an Elise quickly (Clarkson) and for your grandmother. I genuinely feel sorry for the guys at AMG. Building monster race engines for pussified luxo tanks.

Ferrari is next to God. But being an atheist, I do like a little Hell now and then, so to have a car that can roll with the big boys is nice.

Come on. The drivetrain in the Z-Tune is a freaking 2.8l twin IHI fed full blown race engine. Make no bones aboout it gentlemen: this is the meaning of a highly tuned supercar. You can't compare to such a plebian car as the F430 (which every rapper and p0rn star will be driving by June).

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For $35k, I'd be all over the Evo VIII MR.

Wouldn't even have to think twice about it.

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not me, I'd pick up that totaled RS on ebay and do a front and rear conversion to the older body style where the taillights weren't gay altezzas and it still had twin foglights in the front. RS has no wing, combined with the older body style and manual crank windows, people would think I was driving a regular lancer with a body kit. I figure it would be a nice low profile car (wouldn't attract attention from the wrong groups of people) that would be fast as ****.Of course, my dream is to buy an AWD mitsubishi expo and swap on an older evo drivetrain, recaros, and rear end.do a turbo upgrade to 400 hp, put in 4 racing seats, take 3 friends to go beat up porsches. wee!

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MinisterofDOOM wrote:THAT is the heritage that I was talking about. No other car on the planet can touch it.
God, where do I even start. You obviously have no clue about Porsche or the 911, so please refrain from speaking about them. I'm not an elitist, but just a Porsche enthusiast who happens to also be a Datsun/Nissan enthusiast.

You should try researching the 911, and I think you might be surprised. The Skyline has had a good history, and has been very sucessfull in professional racing. Though IMO, there is not a single car on the planet that has had as extensive or sucessfull a racing history as the Porsche 911. Since it's creation, it has been entered into a larger number of different types of motorsports than any other car I can think of. It has also set numerous records at countless circuits and races/racing series around the world. I can't even begin to list the numerous accomplishments, innovations, and technological advancements spawned from the 911. It was the first production road car to feature a rear spoiler, first turbocharged production car to use an intercooler, first twin turbocharged production sports car (Porsche 959, not completely sure on this one, might have been the F40 1st), first production car with a 6 speed gearbox, first production sports car to feature a side impact protection system (airbags, protects your thorax, etc, on the 997). Even the "lower-end" Porsches feature similar technological advancements such as the 944 being the 1st production sports car with passenger side airbags, the 928 being the 1st production sports car with a tire air pressure monitoring system.

Let me start this paragraph out by saying I LOVE the Datsun S20 engine! It is such a sweet little motor, and very advanced for it's time. Though, during the 70's, take a look at what the GTR did, and then the 911. In Japan, the GTR mopped up the competition, and even competed very well against the few private 911 entries in Japanese racing (I don't remember specifics on these). However, take a look at the 911 of the 70's. There were the 2.8 RSR's making 280hp, 3.0 RSR's making 300-330hp (remember these are n/a), 934's making 500+ hp (turbocharged of course) and quite a few other models. In silhouette form, the 911 also raced as the 935, which in it's final guise made something like 780+ hp and was capable of 230+ mph IN THE 70's!. True, this is FAR from a production version, but it was still a 911 chasis, which is the whole point. A modern example of this could be seen in the 911 Gt1, which competed/won at Lemans in 1998, and actually outdid Mclaren f1's some of the time. This too was based on a 911 chassis. The difference is, the 911 was built as and has always been a sports car. Since it's original release, it has been built, improved and forged out of motorsports.

I like the GTR and Skylines in general, so please don't take any of this the wrong way. However, as sucessfull as it has been it is not the same caliber of car that a 911 is. I completely understand liking Skylines more than 911's, because everyone has their own taste.

If I had $170+k I'd be buying a Gt3R or Cup car and converting it to street use. How's 400-440hp n/a in a 2400lb car with a 8.5k+ redline sound? In reality I'd probably buy a 965 3.6l turbo ('93-94 911 turbo), spend a ton on mods and have lots left over to POUR into my S30 Z.

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jdmevocivicr bought it for $190,000he has 27 feed back responses and a negative one for being a non paying bidder on this GREDDY Blue Box Fuel Mgmt civic honda si b16 b18 turbo for $94.10:

the buyer is in fresno california

I wonder if he really has the cash...at least if he does we might see him on here as a recent nissan conversion.

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Wow...old thread...or at least it seems like it. I guess my last post was just four or five days ago, though.

Actually, I know quite a bit about Porche. I'm a huge Porche fan...or was until their last model lineup--when they lost all forms of taste for appearance and decided to join the bandwagon and make an SUV, which pretty much destroyed the uniqueness that the Porche badge once carried. I almost bought a late 70's 911 a few years ago.

As I said before, I was not trying to belittle the Porche, I was trying to point out the difference between the cars, and why, in MY OPINION the Skyline is the better car. My whole point is that they are not the same caliber car. And yet, it can keep up with the Porche in many aspects.

Honestly, I could not care less about racing history. I'll never professionally race either car. I want a car for ME. To have fun in. And while I'd love a 911, I can see myself having more fun with a Skyline. To me, it is the better car. But then, I seem to have very different opinions of what makes a car good than most other people.

Don't think for a second I doubt the 911 or its heritage. But there's something about what makes a Skyline a Skyline that gives it more soul, in my opinion.

Most of the points in your post, like the fact that the 911 was always built as a sports car, are exactly the points I made. I just supported a different point of view with them. What I am trying to say, in short, is that I find that an everyday sedan that can be made to perform like the Skyline can is to be respected more than a car that was specifically built for that purpose. At least, that's how I see things. It's kind of like seeing a Donkey win a thoroughbred horse race...the donkey is deserving of more respect for stepping up, and for keeping up than the race bred horses would have been for winning.

I think a lot of people are getting annoyed with my fanatical devotion to the Skyline because it's become such a fad car. That's NOT where I'm coming from. I was a Skyline devotee before it ever became an icon--before I ever really knew what Nissan was. Because of the CAR. So don't think I'm just following a trend. I'm a fan of sedans...look at my signature. I'm also a fan of factory modified cars, and of the straight six (although I'm equally enamored with the boxer). The Skyline embodies everything I think a good car should be. Attractive, aggressive looks; an engine that is reliable and can take abuse; seating for four; respectable performance; and a fun to drive factor. Tech goodies like HICAS and ATTESSA-ETS (I can never remember how many T's and S's are in that... ) are a good plus as well.

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I hope my comments didn't sound like an attack, although I realize now that they probably did so, sorry.

It sounds like you like the Skyline for many of the same reasons I like Porsches. One of the things that attracted me so much to Porsches is that they have typically been underdogs much of the time. Despite this, they've accomplished a lot. Back in the '50's, Porsche w/ their 550 Spyder ~140-180hp 4 cyl race cars would actually put the hurt on and even beat large engine American cars, 300+ hp v12 Ferraris, etc. I really like seeing stuff like that happen, regardless of what manufacturer it is.

The reason I love the GTR is for the simple fact that you can make so much power and have such a high level of performance for fairly cheap. It's also not that hard to do. There is so much available in the Japanese aftermarket industry, that it's ridiculous!

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Porschephile wrote:Back in the '50's, Porsche w/ their 550 Spyder ~140-180hp 4 cyl race cars would actually put the hurt on and even beat large engine American cars, 300+ hp v12 Ferraris, etc. I really like seeing stuff like that happen, regardless of what manufacturer it is.
Yep. Porche (along with Lotus) proved that it's not the number of cylindars that matters, but rather what you do with them. That's exactly why I like Porche so much. It's also why I like the boxer engine.
Porchephile wrote:I hope my comments didn't sound like an attack, although I realize now that they probably did so, sorry.
Nah, not at all. I just get very passionate defending my point of view, and it comes across as defensive a lot of the time.

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jdmevocivicr?

jdmevocivic"type" R?He doesn't have the money.


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