The little CA18DET that did!

[boost_boy]

I'll be on AIM for a minute, so if any of you guys wanna see some videos and got pretty fast connections, then I'll hook you up! A sentra can't go 160mph? 10 years ago I would've called B.S. as well, but these are the times for technology and to go back to the old school for seriously rugged power plants.

[boost_boy]

Quote »Do you know if the one on ebay now runs? You said you knew the guy.[/quote] Those engine do run and I do know the guy personally! These are more slated to drop directly for the KN13 pulsar 87-90, but anything is possible and I can make it work.

[NeedCAforS13]

dee sign on AIM foo! or IM me SOlsenA6 b/c you don't show up on my buddy list:D

Sean

[boost_boy]

My bad! I was still posting some literature.

[andrave]

it is just my opinion.

still smells to me.

[boost_boy]

Quote »still smells to me.[/quote] Okay, smell this and then I'm done: B13 SE-R's are good for 130ish mph out of the box. 1988 nissan pulsars are good for 130ish right out the box. Both cars are less powered than the 240sx models carrying the KA24E and DET for the years being compared ranging from 135hp (KA24E) and 155hp (KA24DE) and these were good for around 125+mph. So tell me something in a mathmatical sense, if those cars can get to those miles per hour on such a low horsepower setting, what in the hell make you think my car or anyone else's car that has a decent upgrade selection squeeze out an extra 20-50mph? I mean, all it takes is you to reach down, grab a pair of balls and step on the pedal a little longer and any true speeder knows this. I see that you have an '89 240 hatch with KA24E! It really is the person behind the wheel and the pedal because the CA18DET and it's gearboxes are well prepared for this 160 or whatever you're calling B.S. Now, back to the subject at hand.............

[andrave]

I can't believe any officer would let you go for 173. I don't believe any public road would allow you to travel at 170, especially one with a limit of 55. I can't believe 4th would be 140 or so, unless you were revving to 11,000 rpm, and I can't believe that only 270 HP would be adequate to propel a car up to 170. I have videos of 500 and 600 HP SR 20's doing a radar enforced 300 km/h which is around 186, and that is with the more aerodynamic 180sx body style. I don't mean to insult and just say "you are a liar" but I'm faced with all these stuff, plus I used to own a FWD car and I know that, in that car anyway, anything over 100 started to get very unsettling. In the 240 I have traveled from WV to Florida traveling at around 110 MPH but that was all on 70 mph interstate, and I have on occasion bounced off my 117 mph governer but I just can't see anything over 150 or so with only 200-300 HP. Maybe eventually I'll finally get my turbo engine in and see what it will do, but honestly unless you are on a track there is not really any legitimate way to verify a top speed unless you were "lucky" enough to have joe law write you up some state sponsered verification form.

[Nismo1182]

I believe Secret Services red 240SX has been clocked at 181 or some. And thats only with 415 hp, not the 500-600 you said youve seen. Im sure you've seen the video of the red 240. Did you look at the mph needle when they made the run after the dyno?

A B12 sentra doesnt weight much and because of this it doesnt take much to get it going. Drive a gutted CRX with a Type R swap and you will see what im talking about.

When Ive had my stock motor (KA24E) I pushed it to the limiter and the car still had rpm room to keep going. Ive seen a few go over 130mph with out a limiter easily.

Now I have a CA18. At only 12psi and stock everything else, the mph climb up very fast. Ive hit 115 mph in a matter of a few seconds compared to the little extra time it took the KA to get up there, since high RPM isnt the KA's shinning point.

I didnt (and still dont) want to go any faster because of the skinny crappy tires my ride has.

I-95 and the Turnpike are perfect places to get up to top speed.

[jdmfreak]

Thats not bad at all. I thought getting B12 but its too small for me. Ive always wanted to test top speed in my moms 95 maxima but I havent done it yet. I did do 127 mph though. Do any of you know of the max's top speed?

[andrave]

what year maxima? my old roommate had a 95 (which he totaled and replaced with an identical 96) that he swears he got up to 140 one night when he raced a BMW.I got my old 93 chevy astro van up to 117, where it hit the speed cut off.

[boost_boy]

Quote »I can't believe any officer would let you go for 173.[/quote] You are entitled to that and thankfully, I have nothing to show for it (Because I need my license).Quote »that he swears he got up to 140 one night when he raced a BMW.[/quote] That's believeable and I believe it and what, it's only like 220hp at the crank! Now knock of 1000lbs, tack on an extra 140+hp to the crank and broaden the RPM range using the same gearbox;). It's too easy........Hey "Nismo1182" and anyone else, that sentra is very stable over 125mph and video shows me driving the car with one hand at over 150mph as the S2000 I raced verified it and turbocharged IS300 got smoked and If I'm not mistaken, he too said he was stretched out to 160+mph and couldn't catch up. And I'm not trying to sound ****y or anything like that, but I know what the car with those motors can do and have lived it, thus I really don't have anything to prove ever again on this matter. And "Andrave" I haven't heard you say anything about an old school/ boxed sentra wacking a WRX at it's own game and do you know the top speed of those fabulous machines? I guess that wasn't suppose to be true either, huh! It's not what you drive man, but I guess how you drive it and some people are a little more mischievous at pushing the envelope for top speed than others (understandable).

[Nismo1182]

Exactly, high speed unstable runs can be fixed with upgraded suspension. After that, it will feel like a BMW.

I love my spring and shock combo. I had badass performance tires before but I wore them down quick. Now I have regular everyday driving tires that are 195-65-15. They dont exactly inspire me with confidence when I get close to 100 mph. The sidewalls are way too tall and there not enough contach patch on the road.

Next tires will be 225/50/15

[float_6969]

When considering top speed, humongus horsepower #'s are necissarily required. It's mostly about gearing and aerodynamics. All you have to have is enough power to overcome the drag of the air and a little more to keep accelerating. In my 91 240sx SE Super HICAS (HICAS rulz at high speeds) with the speed sensor wire cut to the ECU I could hit approx. 120mph before the 5th gear rev limiter hit. It kicked on at just over 6G's. That means that I still have 1000rpm left before I even hit the redline. And the car (completely stock motor) was pulling nicely all the way up to it. Now if I didn't have the rev limiter I could have run it all the way up to the 7G redline. I figure that would have put me at about 140mph. And even then, it's not that I don't have enough power, it's that I'm out of gear. And thats only at 155hp. If I had simply changed the gearing in the rear end, I firmly believe I could see 160mph. After that, I might start needing more horsepower. Now if you look at the CA18, you can not only rev to 8G's stock, but to 9G's built. I think 160mph is VERY attainable. It's all about gearing and aerodynamic.

[andrave]

it still takes a **** load of power to push cars that fast, I don't think you guys understand. Go look at efforts made on the salt flats if you think I'm full of ****, those guys push some huge *** numbers...**** if its only about power and gearing then why can't one of the last year of production's v-8 camaro's hit your same 173?more power, better (longer) gearing???

[boost_boy]

Quote »if its only about power and gearing then why can't one of the last year of production's v-8 camaro's hit your same 173?[/quote] I drive a comfortably equipped nissan sentra with a very decent suspension set up and nice abundance of power on tap and not a chevy with a V8. Most of those high performance V8's have all sorts of crap on board those cars to keep the engine from pulling a 4th of july fireworks display, but I can't make excuses for anything not even my own cars. I own a 1993 Ford Taurus SHO and that car weighs every bit 3300+lbs and it's an auto slush box and I have cruised at 130mph easily and in a comparison, 1000lbs heavier (weight not a major factor), under powered compared to the sentra by a decent amount of horsepower, but yet you will continue to rant and rave about 30-40 extra mph? Until you've owned one (CA18DET) and cared to venture into the realm of highspeed highway racing in the state of West Virginia, i will deem your arguments invalid as well as B.S. I can seriously see that you are into V8 muscle cars and that's cool, but I don't think those guys who play on the streets care to push their cars that high (they probably can go faster than mine); who cares. The bottom line is, any 240SX or sentra equipped with a CA18DET power plant will easily see speeds of over 150mph if the owners of the cars cared to venture that high into the mph sector and have a car that's not crippled by safety features such as fuel/speed and rev limiters and this my friend is no "Bool-Shizznitt".

[float_6969]

Andrave, you obviously have your mind set and there will be no amout of evidence to sway it. Further arguments are frivolus on our part. Though I do have to say this; I don't really believe that top speed was something that was ranked highly in the development of a Camaro. It's what it is. An American muscle car. It was built to accelerate in a straight line and it does that QUITE well. Regardless, 170 in a sentra has been done. Boost Boy has evidence. Though I have none firsthand, I know how much experience he has with this motor and it's workings and I fully trust the validity of his statement.

[andrave]

I'm not into muscle cars, my older brother is and he and I both agree that this story seems highly unlikely.I just suggested the V-8 camaro because it has an abundance of power and extremely long gearing (cruising in sixth grear at 75 is 2500 rpm).I am (obviously) into imports, as evidenced by the fact that I'm here on a 1.8 liter motor board for a nissan motor.

And I actually laughed outloud when you said I need to venture into the realm of high speed racing in WV... This obviously has to be from the mouth of someone who hasn't ever set foot inside the borders of my mountainous state, "the mountain state." Just an FYI- my state is the most costly per mile to build roads in of all those in our nation, and thats for a reason. A "straight stretch" which I understand to be a length of several miles from my western friends, is usually 100 yards here. My 240 can rarely stretch its legs to above 80 mph on any road, and even on interstate highways (try I-77 from beckley to charleston) you would be lucky to exceed an average speed of 90 mph or so. They are just too mountainous, curvy, and have too many sharp elevation changes to be able to negotiate at speed, even in a well prepared car.My car can top most of the efforts around here (stickered and aluminum winged cavaliers, neons, and civics, mostly) and has been known to out handle some "sports cars" in the hands of lesser drivers. (I call them lesser drivers because they don't wreck as often as I do, hence the term, "less.")

[boost_boy]

Quote »This obviously has to be from the mouth of someone who hasn't ever set foot inside the borders of my mountainous state, "the mountain state."[/quote] Naahh, don't say you were laughing at me, but more laughing with me for I was just being sarcastic when I made that comment. I am familiar enough with the terrain of WV to know that you would rarely have the opportunity to remain consistent at a high rate of speed. My friends that I had in the Marine Corps told me stories about how it gets in the winter there and honestly "Andrave" you're right about the fact that I've never stepped foot in West Virginia. Virginia is the farthest I've ever been up the east coast, but it seems like a very beautiful place. If for any reason you don't think any of my sentras (especially the one with the built motor and the special gearbox), if you're ever in my neck of the woods and need a 45 second thrill, Holla;) !

[Siddhartha]

You gonna be in O-town any time soon, Dee? I need a thrill . . . Seriously, I wanna ride in a fast sentra, need some convincing that I want one.

[Nismo1182]

BTW: Camaros and TA are limited to 160 mph. Cant have a regular ol' Camaro-T/A whooping the American Allstar, the Vette

Remove the limiter and the fun will continue.

[andrave]

stuff I have says 159, but I saw a comparison with no speed cuts and it only hit like 160 something.you know the limiters are also there for a reason... after that bridgestone thing, a lot of makers limit speeds based on the tires that come on their vehicles... can't have sports cars blowing tires at 180...if I am ever in miami (which I may be soon, coming down to take a look at some law schools, and I have family by ft pierce) I'll take you up on the offer.I can also take you for a short ride (it doesn't take long for the ka24E to bang off the limiter at 117).

[Nismo1182]

stop by orlando too!

[boost_boy]

I'm game. I also want to take a trip to Orlando and peep the seen up there. I heard it's pretty nice and the women are too;) .

[Siddhartha]

come this weekend!!!

[NeedCAforS13]

bring me my head!

haha just kidding...i gotta come down there for my exhaust...just let me know when you get my head!:D

Sean

**Dee if you come up here, and ever need a place to crash...we got tons of room here! big house:D**

[boost_boy]

Quote »Dee if you come up here, and ever need a place to crash...we got tons of room here! big house[/quote] Nice to know that there are some really kind people out here. And thanks for reminding me about your head! I'll pick it up tomorrow. This weekend is pushing it, but we'll see!

[Siddhartha]

Dee whats your email, I gots some questions about a specific car in the miami area.

[boost_boy]

[email protected]

[NeedCAforS13]

you wanna get on aim Dee?

I'm gonna have to make a trip down there (next weekend?) for my exhaust...so don't worry about tryin to rush up here or anything. I'll take Sidd with me too...

Sean

[boost_boy]

I'll log on now before the woman starts crabbing!@!!#$TR#$RE