The "Kenrik" Thread

[Kenrik]

Ok so..

I want to sell this: G35 Coupe


To buy this: Cayenne Turbo


Because my wife is going to have this: Baby


Help me figure out how much of this I can get: Money


For this: G35


Specs:
2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe Sport, Brembo.
123k Miles oil changed every 3k by me.
Runs and drives perfect.
New clutch at 113K
New wheels tires @ 122k

Issues:
Bubbling clearcoat on roof and trunk. Rock chips on bumper and hood.
Missing passenger seat, Drivers seat is R34 East Bear GTR Seat.
CEL light from test pipes.
6 Disk is DOA.
Tear in front bumper cover.

KBB

Excellent
$10,625

Good
$9,875

Fair
$8,600

[drksolest]

have no input for you but

[Bubba1]

have no input for you but

Are you talking new or used Porsche?

[Kompresshun]

Well i'll give ya about tree fiddy



Based on how you described it, with a quick look at KBB, i'd say $9,000-9,500 obo would be about where you'd be at. It's worth $9,615 in good condition, considering the paint flaws and other blemishes on the body, that seems to be the most you'd be able to pull out of it. If you want to sell it quick, i'd price it at $9,000 obo and see how it goes. If you don't mind sitting on it for a bit, price it higher and come down as needed.

[Eikon]

Why a Cayenne Turbo?

[Encryptshun]

have no input for you but

Are you talking new or used babby?

FTFY

GLWS, Kenrik. Hands-down the greatest FS thread I've seen.

[Eikon]

As for your G.. I'd say you'll be lucky to get $8k for it. You won't be able to sell it to a "normal" car buyer if you don't have the stock front seats... so you'll have to find a buyer on a car forum. Even so, with the bad paint, high miles, etc.. you'll be lucky to get $8k for it.

[Bubba1]

Are you talking new or used babby?

FTFY

GLWS, Kenrik. Hands-down the greatest FS thread I've seen.

What's a "babby"?

[Encryptshun]

Are you talking new or used babby?

FTFY

GLWS, Kenrik. Hands-down the greatest FS thread I've seen.

What's a "babby"?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 418AAhm4TU

[Kompresshun]

As for your G.. I'd say you'll be lucky to get $8k for it. You won't be able to sell it to a "normal" car buyer if you don't have the stock front seats... so you'll have to find a buyer on a car forum. Even so, with the bad paint, high miles, etc.. you'll be lucky to get $8k for it.

^True, I was just giving best case scenario based on Private Party Book Value. If I were in the market for a G, those things would be very unattractive to me as a buyer, so I would expect the price to offset that, if I were to consider buying it at all.

As a seller though, I would start out higher and reduce the price as needed, if you're not in a huge rush to sell it, starting at around $8,700 - 9,000 obo would be a decent starting point to see if it draws any interest. You never know if somebody will bite at that price, plus you can always accept a lower offer, just don't price it at $9k expecting to get that much.

[Kenrik]

Well here's what I don't get.
The cheapest G35 for sale within 300 miles is 11.2k with the same mileage and Automatic.

There is no G35 within 300 miles under 11k that does not have a rebuilt title. .. the cheapest rebuilt G35 is 9k..

Mine has a clean title, new tires and wheels, recent clutch.

is 10k unreasonable to start?

[Kenrik]

Why a Cayenne Turbo?

0 - 60, 5.2 Seconds, Skidpad 0.88 Gs..

Can be had for around $25k... for a 100k car. Gotta love it.

[Bubba1]

As for your G.. I'd say you'll be lucky to get $8k for it. You won't be able to sell it to a "normal" car buyer if you don't have the stock front seats... so you'll have to find a buyer on a car forum. Even so, with the bad paint, high miles, etc.. you'll be lucky to get $8k for it.

I was thinking less given the problems. If you want $8K for that car, I think you'll need to at least fix some those mechanical problems, like the missing seat, the CEL (which is an automatic inspection failure in many states and a huge warning sign to a buyer), and a fully working stereo.

[Bubba1]

Where do you live that there are so few G35's?

[Kenrik]

Where do you live that there are so few G35's?

Miami/Fort Lauderdale.

I don't know why but we have tons of G35s and the prices have always been higher than other parts of the country.

[Kompresshun]

Well here's what I don't get.
The cheapest G35 for sale within 300 miles is 11.2k with the same mileage and Automatic.

There is no G35 within 300 miles under 11k that does not have a rebuilt title. .. the cheapest rebuilt G35 is 9k..

Mine has a clean title.

Ok, so based on that you still have to consider the flaws that yours has compared to the one priced at $11.2k. Seats alone would be a few hundred dollars at minimum(that's from a junkyard or somebody parting out), then you have to factor in a new bumper cover due to the tear, along with paint for the new bumper cover(might as well say the whole car with the other flaws though). I'd still say $9k would be your starting point, because the difference is, the market for a modded car that needs work is a lot narrower than for a car with minor flaws and is still in stock form. People in the Nissan/Infiniti community might be more interested in it, but your average buyer is probably going to pass it by due to the flaws. Not saying that your car is a piece of junk, to you and me it might not be a big deal. To someone else, a missing a seat, needing a bumper cover, and paint at minimum will probably make them move on to another car, unless it's priced better than the other ones on the market.

[Kenrik]

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[Kenrik]

Do you think it would be worth it to invest 2k in a respray, fix the CEL/Radio/Bumper Cover/Seats.

I don't know..

Or should I try to trade it in as part of the deal to get the new car and just negotiate with them to take the "fair condition" trade in value.

[Kompresshun]

Do you think it would be worth it to invest 2k in a respray, fix the CEL/Radio/Bumper Cover/Seats.

I don't know..

Or should I try to trade it in as part of the deal to get the new car and just negotiate with them to take the "fair condition" trade in value.

I wouldn't invest in the respray honestly, how bad is the bumper cover? Is it in the pics above? Maybe the CEL/Radio/Seats but you're still going to have to invest a lot to increase your return by very little. You'll likely end up spending $2,500-$3,000 to get all of that done, to only possibly get $12k out of it at that point.

You might do better trying to trade it in, as you mentioned. The dealers will work the numbers in your favor depending on what's more important to you, you just gotta watch how they do it. Sometimes they jack the price of the vehicle up to offer you more for your trade, sometimes they'll just offer you more for the trade on paper to get you in the new car. When we bought our Commander, they gave originally offered us $7,500 for our QX4, in the end I got them to give us $10,500 for it. I know though that the deal still worked in their favor, even though it looked good on paper. It's a tricky process dealing with dealerships on trades but sometimes it can work out for the better, plus it's a lot less hassle than trying to sell your trade outright in some cases.

[Kenrik]

Yes the bumper cover can be seen in the photos.

IDK. I'm really looking for 9k free and clear so I can buy a 23 - 26k Cayenne turbo and pay around $300 per month in payment.



I would take 9k cash as is if someone offered, I would just need to find a buyer.

It's actually a great car and drives well/no issues.. I just don't want my wife driving the baby around in the Versa.. it's safe for adults but... I don't know if I want my baby in a tin can.

So, Cayenne = Performance + Tank.

[Dattebayo]

I just don't want my wife driving the baby around in the Versa.. it's safe for adults but... I don't know if I want my baby in a tin can.

So, Cayenne = Performance + Tank.

Um wut

[Kompresshun]

Yes the bumper cover can be seen in the photos.

IDK. I'm really looking for 9k free and clear so I can buy a 23 - 26k Cayenne turbo and pay around $300 per month in payment.



I would take 9k cash as is if someone offered, I would just need to find a buyer.

It's actually a great car and drives well/no issues.. I just don't want my wife driving the baby around in the Versa.. it's safe for adults but... I don't know if I want my baby in a tin can.

So, Cayenne = Performance + Tank.

I think you could do $9k as is, considering the prices in your area. Just put it up for $9k firm on Craigslist and see if you get any bites at that price.

I don't blame you on not wanting her to drive the Versa though, my wife had a Chevy Aveo when we got married and we got an SUV shortly after we moved here. They're not bad for commuters but I don't feel very safe in any of those econoboxes.

Have you considered any other SUVs as well? Like maybe an Infiniti FX, Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8 or a Trailblazer SS?

[Kenrik]

Yes the bumper cover can be seen in the photos.

IDK. I'm really looking for 9k free and clear so I can buy a 23 - 26k Cayenne turbo and pay around $300 per month in payment.



I would take 9k cash as is if someone offered, I would just need to find a buyer.

It's actually a great car and drives well/no issues.. I just don't want my wife driving the baby around in the Versa.. it's safe for adults but... I don't know if I want my baby in a tin can.

So, Cayenne = Performance + Tank.

I think you could do $9k as is, considering the prices in your area. Just put it up for $9k firm on Craigslist and see if you get any bites at that price.

I don't blame you on not wanting her to drive the Versa though, my wife had a Chevy Aveo when we got married and we got an SUV shortly after we moved here. They're not bad for commuters but I don't feel very safe in any of those econoboxes.

Have you considered any other SUVs as well? Like maybe an Infiniti FX, Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8 or a Trailblazer SS?

I looked at the FX, my wife likes them.. Problem is the cheapest FXs in our area are around 17 - 25k... If I'm going to pay that I'm going for a Cayenne Turbo with 450 BHP ! Heck even Nissan Rouges are around 16 - 19k.. the difference is minimal when you really thing about it

[Dattebayo]

Problem is the cheapest FXs in our area are around 17 - 25k... If I'm going to pay that I'm going for a Cayenne Turbo with 450 BHP ! Heck even Nissan Rouges are around 16 - 19k.. the difference is minimal when you really thing about it

Until it needs some work done, that is.

[Kompresshun]

I looked at the FX, my wife likes them.. Problem is the cheapest FXs in our area are around 17 - 25k... If I'm going to pay that I'm going for a Cayenne Turbo with 450 BHP ! Heck even Nissan Rouges are around 16 - 19k.. the difference is minimal when you really thing about it

Yeah the FX is a bit ridiculous in price, i'd probably go for the Cayenne too. The only thing I would worry about is maintenance, I know very little about the Cayenne mechanically, so I don't know how much it would cost for repairs and how often they need maintenance. I know oil changes are very pricey in them

[Kenrik]

Well, I don't know if I would buy another infiniti.. The paint SUCKS on Infinitis I had enough small issues CD player, Seat rails cracking, trim coming off etc.. that I have serious reservations with the "fit and finish" Yes it has been 100% mechanically reliable when it comes to the engine/drivetrain. But when you're paying a premium you don't expect to encounter issues that you would find on a Toyota or Nissan.

[orangeNblue]

Personally, I think you could sell the R34 seat, but two stock ones, and invest in an aftermarket stereo and it would help with the price by a lot. People could understand the CEL issue because of the test pipes. I would think you could easily get 9.5 to 10k with those fixes....

[Jesda]

Your baby is unusually white

[Bubba1]

Yes the bumper cover can be seen in the photos.

IDK. I'm really looking for 9k free and clear so I can buy a 23 - 26k Cayenne turbo and pay around $300 per month in payment.



I would take 9k cash as is if someone offered, I would just need to find a buyer.

It's actually a great car and drives well/no issues.. I just don't want my wife driving the baby around in the Versa.. it's safe for adults but... I don't know if I want my baby in a tin can.

So, Cayenne = Performance + Tank.

I think you're missing an important part of the equation. Cost of repair/operate/own a top of the line Cayenne is significantly more than what you're paying now for an infiniti.

I'm sure your G drives well, but as far as no issues? Uh, what do you call bad paint + CEL lit + missing seat + broken bumper cover + broken radio? itty bitty details? A buyer/dealer will take one look and conclude the car lived a rough life and give you bottom dollar for it. The new tires add no value.

You can always roll the dice and list your car online (Ebay, Craigslist, autotrader, etc.)with a reserve on it. Who knows, you might get lucky. But I have a feeling that you won't get even close to what you want unless you fix those problems.

As far as a respray, I'm not sure it's a good idea unless you spend the money and do it right. The risk with resprays is if you do it too cheaply, the buyer might see the overspray or drips and conclude you're trying to hide accident damage, thus reducing the value.

[Rev_D21]

Having a baby? SUVs are wayy too small for one baby, think big, like 48ft trailer big.