bigbadberry3 wrote:The murderer John Wayne Gacy was from that town correct me if I'm wrong?
Dude... Michelle Bachmann was BORN in Waterloo, IA. She, of all people, should know the difference between the two John Wayne's.AZhitman wrote: She's not my choice, but "stupid" isn't a term typically ascribed to someone who's that educated....
Let's be clear about this:AZhitman wrote:And the whole "gotcha" thing has gotten silly. We've "fact-checked" everyone into the ground, they're ALL wrong, including a lot of what POTUS says. I'm convinced that politicians don't need "facts", because the slovenly retards who do nothing but watch TV and play video games are their voting bloc - and they don't care about "facts".
R/T Hemi wrote:"Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann said Monday at the CNN debate that she had filed paperwork to enter the presidential race and said she plans to make a formal announcement of her candidacy "soon.""
Have you ever had a conversation with Dan Qualye? While I will admit he was probably in over his head, in terms of the media when he was Vice President, he is a very smart man. My family also holds his wife (a lawyer) in high regard. Dan Qualye also holds the largest margin of a win in Indiana election history and unseated a Senior Sentator (Birch Bayh) his first time out. This guy is not stupid.In all fairness, Quayle wasn't possessed of a high performance brain, but he looks like Plato (or is it Platoe?) compared to the dynamic duo.
I don't think that's the case. Or, if it is, you're going to need someone other than Bachmann for your argument.stebo0728 wrote:Everyone on the right is stupid, according to the left...
Dont mind me, it was hyperbolic conjecture.IBCoupe wrote:I don't think that's the case. Or, if it is, you're going to need someone other than Bachmann for your argument.stebo0728 wrote:Everyone on the right is stupid, according to the left...
Sure it is her birth place (not necessarily her home town, wouldnt that be Minn?) and I realize she was trying to invoke some imagery, but isnt this gaffe just tertiary?srellim234 wrote:Cold, there's a big diference between making that kind of mistake about a state and that kind of mistake about your home town.
And the counterpoint of this is that we get politicians that speak in platitudes and generalities as to ‘play it safe’ and not risk the exposure. I realize, to do your campaign a service you need to the message right and the surrounding details. Don’t get me wrong.Just like the lack of preparation for the speeches in New Hampshire where she rewrote American Revolutionary history she is proving that she is unprepared, fails to do research and has not surrounded herself with people who will.
It's far from some misogynic babble. They are both poor choices for politicians. However, Michelle Bachmann has Sarah Palin beat all over in one regard. Sarah Palin only has megalomania. Michelle Bachmann has lots of other manias. Seriously, their candidacy is a gimme for Obama. I'm hoping for a great campaign from realistic candidates in 2012. A campaign that can actually add something to the platform and brings out the best from both sides. Neither of these women have a prayer of doing that. I want issues and answers from the hopefuls. Without worthy candidates from the red team, we're not going to get it.Cold_Zero wrote:R/T Hemi wrote:"Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann said Monday at the CNN debate that she had filed paperwork to enter the presidential race and said she plans to make a formal announcement of her candidacy "soon.""
And let the Misogyny begin from the mainstream media and pundints.
I dont see you beating up President Obama for proclaiming that SFC Jared Monti (10th Mountain) was his first non-posthumously Medal of Honor recipient. But hey damn be the facts I guess?srellim234 wrote:As for platitudes and generalities, you at least owe it to the people of your destination to learn some basic things about them. Any basic info would have indicated that Lexington and Concord of Revolutionary War fame are in Massachusetts. On her way to New Hampshire to deliver a prepared speech (with the reference that was repeated again later) that reference should never have been placed into that speech. She makes up the facts and inserts them as she sees fit. The truth be damned.
I agree with you that politicians should be more specific but they also need to get their facts right. It's especially true the more specific they want to be.
This discussion is about Bachmann. The fact that I am not beating up Obama in this thread has nothing to do with it and in no way constitutes a defense of him. Feel free to get a thread going about his gaffes I'll be happy to criticize him there. I'm not so sure that he plays as loose with facts as Bachmann, though. The Monti instance was extremely poor. A much more egregious act on the international stage was Obama's disrespect of the British people in general and the Queen specifically with his lack of following protocol at the dinner in England.Cold_Zero wrote:
I dont see you beating up President Obama for proclaiming that SFC Jared Monti (10th Mountain) was his first non-posthumously Medal of Honor recipient. But hey damn be the facts I guess?