The FR-S.....Topless

[nissangirl74]

Toyota plans to debut the topless FR-S next month at the Geneva Auto Show. Through the fence, she looks pretty sweet. It sure would be nice if Nissan was debuting something like that. *sigh*

http://jalopnik.com/the-scion-fr-s-conv ... socialflow

[Jesda]

With four seats and a turbo (rumor) it would be a loose spiritual successor to the Saab 9-3 convertible but for a lower price and with Japanese build quality.

It's nice to carry friends and/or my dog with the roof open on a nice day.

[VQpwrdSE-R]

Meanwhile at Nissan headquarters...... "We must build a competitor to the FRS and respond to the drop top version" " Yes! a convertible juke, that's what the masses desire!"

The 'vert looks pretty good, I'm sure much of the trunk is rendered useless when the top is down. It's just another option Toyobaru has provided it's customers with. Another option we don't have.

[Bubba1]

With four seats and a turbo (rumor) it would be a loose spiritual successor to the Saab 9-3 convertible but for a lower price and with Japanese build quality.

I don't quite see that but I do see more direct head-to-head competition with the Miata.

[krash]

I'm a sucker for a vert, but hatchbacks don't usually translate well. Looks pretty okay from what I can see in the picture. I'm sure Nissan saw this coming, which is why they strategically decided to build 2014 Crosscabriolets. Those guys at Nissan an super smart.

[Jmoore124]

I don't see how you can call it a 9=3. The 9 3 always used the saab motor, never switched to a flat 4 and is front wheel drive. The frs uses the flat four and is rear wheel drive. Totally different car imo. Don't care for the vert too much though.

[krash]

"loose spiritual successor" does not mean its the same thing. It has a similar "soul" to the 9-3 vert, made for a similar purpose.

[float_6969]

It just makes me sad. Nissan is completely absent in this market. Which happens to be my market. Bah.

[Gray Rohan]

Random thought in my head:
i've seen people arguing over this already everywhere "why buy this where you can buy a s2k for less","s2k's have more power,look better,drift better,etc,",
well:
1-s2k's dont come in auto,6 spd manual (YES!!!),This is likely going to have an auto
2-heres the market theyre aiming for:


personally,i dont like verts,but to each their own,Ill trade this for the BRZ turbo!

my 2 cents

[MinisterofDOOM]

I'm still trying to figure out why it has four seats...that goes for the hardtop, too.

[Gray Rohan]

I'm still trying to figure out why it has four seats...that goes for the hardtop, too.

Tax Savers,Mod,tax savers!!

[Bubba1]

I'm still trying to figure out why it has four seats...that goes for the hardtop, too.

My guess is to have the insurance companies classify it as a sporty coupe instead of a sports car making it cheaper to insure than it's 2 seater competition.

[nissangirl74]

I'm still trying to figure out why it has four seats...that goes for the hardtop, too.

Same reason there are 2+2 Z's. $$$

[krash]

I thought there isn't going to be a turbo brz? The last thing a read (a few months ago) was that the STi brz is going to be a beefed up N/A. The convertible actually doesn't look bad, and I can see it growing on me eventually, but I think I'll always like the hatchback more.

The problem with saying "why wouldn't you just buy an s2k" is that you are comparing a new car to a used car. Used car will always win that battle. You can get a very well equipped 350z for the price of a BRZ. Heck, you can get a C5 vette in the same price range as well.

[Gray Rohan]

^^^^^^^^^^true,but then again,those cars are not the 86/brz/frs intended target,their target looks like is the miata,and since its selling very well,they might as well try to take the miata spot!

about the turbo brz,i heard some rumors that it might be happening,don't remember where (dammit,so I could quote it),but if they don't come out with one,i would buy the frs and swap all badges to toyota,(EVEN THE AIRBAG, I cant stand scion,dont know why,i just cant),and turbo.

anyways,this car,along with the supra,have my utmost respect!

[Jesda]

I don't see how you can call it a 9=3. The 9 3 always used the saab motor, never switched to a flat 4 and is front wheel drive. The frs uses the flat four and is rear wheel drive. Totally different car imo. Don't care for the vert too much though.

The 9-3 had a usable back seat, a four-banger, and a ragtop. I am, of course, assuming the FR-S vert still retains a back seat.


Otherwise, there's now a lack of sporty four-seat adult-friendly convertibles on the market. The Volvo C70 is a soft cruiser and the Chrysler Sebring/200 is pretty underwhelming. The BMW 3-series has a very limited back seat. I've never been in the back of a Volkswagen Eos but it seems like a tight fit for real humans.

Haven't yet looked closely at the A4 Cabrio.

[krash]

I cant stand scion,dont know why,i just cant

Because Scion is for hipsters, old people, and lesbians.

[Gray Rohan]

Funny cause i drove one and i felt like a douchebag!

[Jesda]

Random thought in my head:
i've seen people arguing over this already everywhere "why buy this where you can buy a s2k for less","s2k's have more power,look better,drift better,etc,",
well:
1-s2k's dont come in auto,6 spd manual (YES!!!),This is likely going to have an auto
2-heres the market theyre aiming for:

Plus they stopped making the S2k, so for someone looking to lease a new car with a warranty, Honda isn't an option.

[WDRacing]

Otherwise, there's now a lack of sporty four-seat adult-friendly convertibles on the market. The Volvo C70 is a soft cruiser and the Chrysler Sebring/200 is pretty underwhelming. The BMW 3-series has a very limited back seat. I've never been in the back of a Volkswagen Eos but it seems like a tight fit for real humans.

Haven't yet looked closely at the A4 Cabrio.

This is what I was thinking. I had a blast driving the Miata when I owned one, but I was married without kids in those days. Now I have 2 kids to think about. Meh, if I was in the market for another car and I wanted a vert, I'd probably get a classic Eldo or something of that era. Land yachts ftw.

[BusyBadger]

I cant stand scion,dont know why,i just cant

Because Scion is for hipsters, old people, and lesbians.

That's funny, those first two describe the majority of the 240 drivers I see, yet it's the car everyone is begging Nissan to resurrect.

[Gray Rohan]

That's funny, those first two describe the majority of the 240 drivers I see, yet it's the car everyone is begging Nissan to resurrect.

ahhh,come on,mod busybadger,its not all of them,its like saying all evo drivers are ***holes,just because all the ones i've met so far are,doesn't mean all of them are,Im pretty sure there are some respectable and good evo drivers out there,i just haven't met them yet.

plus,remember this car is a toyota (more specifically toyota/subaru),they're just using the scion excuse to commercialize a good vehicle!

[Jesda]

The EVO drivers I've met have been short IT guys who consume too much coffee.

[BusyBadger]

That's funny, those first two describe the majority of the 240 drivers I see, yet it's the car everyone is begging Nissan to resurrect.

ahhh,come on,mod busybadger,its not all of them...

Ergo, my use of the phrase, "the majority of".

[gwoods]

Jaguar is making a FR-S with a V8

[Bubba1]

The EVO drivers I've met have been short IT guys who consume too much coffee.

I dunno guys, the Evo owners I've met were all nice. For example, those of you that go to NICOfest Carlisle should know "EvoTyler', he drives that sweet blue one, and he's good people.

[gwoods]

I have ran into many Evo and STI drivers at the drag strip and they were all cool.

[Gray Rohan]

Jaguar is making a FR-S with a V8

Ahhh,dude,that is more like performance oriented,too big of an engine,and its a jag,not a lot of people can afford a Jag!

i know guys,not all of them are douchebags,its actually good that you'll met good evo drivers,and hey,ill like to meet them too!
but now that i think about it,where i live,most import owners are douchebags,you know,making fun of the car that im driving (i drive a lot of cars),burnouts,street racing,tailgating,etc etc.it gets pretty annoying over time,and surprisingly the ones i haven't seen doing that kind of stuff are the s chassis owners,and expensive import (supra,skyline,rx7,nsx)

and i don't own any performance-oriented vehicle ,that's the saddest part,(closest to performance in my house is my sisters 1990 integra ls)

[RicerX]

I was at the Toyota dealer recently with my Dad for service on his Tundra and there was an FR-S with a 6MT at the sticker was $30,226. I laughed until I left the dealership. That defeats the whole purpose of the car in the first place. You can get a Genesis Coupe 3.8, a Mustang GT, or a base 370Z for that money (with a little negotiation).

God, I can't imagine the markup on that convertible. It'll be $40k at dealer lots.

[RicerX]

" Yes! a convertible juke, that's what the masses desire!"

I swear, if Nissan does this, we should submit a resume for a Juke brand activist position with Nala's credentials and photoshopped ride of the month QX4.