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If you're interested in the higher-end The Macallans, but don't want to spent the money because it's an "in vogue" scotch, try a comparably aged The Balvenie. They make a peated 18 that I'm interested in getting my hands on, too.


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charlieo wrote:If you're interested in the higher-end The Macallans, but don't want to spent the money because it's an "in vogue" scotch, try a comparably aged The Balvenie. They make a peated 18 that I'm interested in getting my hands on, too.
I'll have to check that out,I started drinking macallan a few years ago and really enjoy the stuff but it's hard to go drop that kinda money of a bottle of booze.Unfortunately macallan has kinda become a trendy scotch which is great for the company but not for their loyalist followers.I've got the biggest liquor store in north America half a mile down the road from me so i will take your recommendation and look into The Balvenie.

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Ahh I remember you know. You're that 23yo kid who thinks he knows more then everyone and doesn't own a Nissan but still bothers the s*** out of everyone on a Nissan forum.
charlieo wrote:Had you read anything other than the table I referenced, you would see plenty of "information supporting my (sic) information."
You posted a link but the table is the only thing you referenced, which I read and didn't back up your nonsensical argument. :facepalm:
charlieo wrote:http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/ ... /54-60.pdf

Check it. See Table 2 on page 56.
Dude, you need to grow up or GTFO. Actually just GTFO, you don't even belong on this forum. I'm sure there's some ricey subie forum you could pollute.
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Enough derailing. Can someone explain the difference between Scotch and Irish Whiskey? Obviously it's a geographical thing but what happen in the distilleries? I bought a bottle of Oban a while back but couldn't stomach it. Also, my Irish Whiskey friends won't touch Scotch and I'm not sure why.

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Empty V wrote: Dude, you need to grow up or GTFO. Actually just GTFO, you don't even belong on this forum. I'm sure there's some ricey subie forum you could pollute.
You don't own the forum man... ease up. He posted some good information and you got angry, then somehow tried to twist the situation and prove him wrong... which I still don't understand.

Anyway, I know that if I am in need of medical assistance, I now want Foster to administer it. Good to see you posting again buddy.
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Tonight I drink grain alcohol & enjoy The Count of Monte Cristo.

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Empty V wrote:Can someone explain the difference between Scotch and Irish Whiskey? Obviously it's a geographical thing but what happen in the distilleries? I bought a bottle of Oban a while back but couldn't stomach it. Also, my Irish Whiskey friends won't touch Scotch and I'm not sure why.
Funny that you mention Oban, I've got a bottle of it in the cabinet right now along with a bottle of Aberlour and I was wondering which I should have a drink of, guess the dilemma is solved!

Anyway, to answer your question, in one word - peat. Because Irish whiskey doesn't use it there's not the smoky finish that you get in scotch whiskey*. Another thing is that when most people talk about Scotch whiskeys they are usually referring to single malt scotch, though there are certainly blended scotches. And the situation is almost opposite when you talk about Irish whiskeys - most of them are blended but they have tried to capitalize on the popularity of single malt scotches by making single malt Irish whiskey. There are also a lot more flavours/varieties of scotch than Irish whiskey...but that's just a numbers game really. Scotland is covered with distilleries while there are just a few in Ireland.

Give scotch some time...it's not a "love at first taste" thing. If you can find a sample try something like Longmorn 12yr., it's malty without being peaty.

*When a friend of mine was moving away we shared a bottle of scotch (Glenmorangie 18) and watched "Braveheart" for the umpteenth time, his brother came by for a bit and wanted some and after the first draught his comment was,"It's like...like drinking a campfire." I can only imagine his reaction had we been drinking a bottle of Lagavulin.

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Empty V wrote:Ahh I remember you know. You're that 23yo kid who thinks he knows more then everyone and doesn't own a Nissan but still bothers the s*** out of everyone on a Nissan forum.
If that was aimed at me you are clearly a douche bag.I don't think i know more than everyone.If I speak up about something it's because i know what i'm talking about(i.e mainly four wheeling) and you're right I don't own a nissan because i switched from wanting to be a boy racer(no offense to any nissan guys i love the cars) to being a four wheeler as it was more my calling.I've been on this forum for a long time and i keep coming back to it like a heroin addict.If you have a problem with me being around maybe you should bring it up to Greg and try to get me banned.

Oh and so you don't call me out on not knowing anything about fourwheeling look at my signature,I've got the set of rocks along with all the link materials,and hydraulic steering sitting in the garage,i'm waiting on my set of 54" michelin's to start the build,the motor is also getting a little more power adders,I think a few more psi,a bigger cam,some world motown iron heads,and forged bottom end will do the weiand 10-71 justice don't you think? and this is a regularly street driven vehicle and will continue to be and will do 80 fairly easy
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wingFeather wrote:Wait, so drinking acetone & rubbing alcohol is not good for me?
Sometimes I chug Listerine when I'm desperate for a fix.

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Empty V wrote:Can someone explain the difference between Scotch and Irish Whiskey? Obviously it's a geographical thing but what happen in the distilleries? I bought a bottle of Oban a while back but couldn't stomach it. Also, my Irish Whiskey friends won't touch Scotch and I'm not sure why.
Funny that you mention Oban, I've got a bottle of it in the cabinet right now along with a bottle of Aberlour and I was wondering which I should have a drink of, guess the dilemma is solved!

Anyway, to answer your question, in one word - peat. Because Irish whiskey doesn't use it there's not the smoky finish that you get in scotch whiskey*. Another thing is that when most people talk about Scotch whiskeys they are usually referring to single malt scotch, though there are certainly blended scotches. And the situation is almost opposite when you talk about Irish whiskeys - most of them are blended but they have tried to capitalize on the popularity of single malt scotches by making single malt Irish whiskey. There are also a lot more flavours/varieties of scotch than Irish whiskey...but that's just a numbers game really. Scotland is covered with distilleries while there are just a few in Ireland.

Give scotch some time...it's not a "love at first taste" thing. If you can find a sample try something like Longmorn 12yr., it's malty without being peaty.

*When a friend of mine was moving away we shared a bottle of scotch (Glenmorangie 18) and watched "Braveheart" for the umpteenth time, his brother came by for a bit and wanted some and after the first draught his comment was,"It's like...like drinking a campfire." I can only imagine his reaction had we been drinking a bottle of Lagavulin.
There are a few peaty Irish drams, but it's not normal. The difference between Irish and Scotch whisky is the malted barley and the distillation process.

http://www.barkeeper.ie/page.asp?menu=0&page=560
The big difference between Scotch and Irish whiskey is the distilling phase which is made twice with Scotch and three times with Irish, giving Irish whiskey a particular lightness

· Scotch whisky first allows the barley to sprout and then it is dried. Irish whiskey uses raw and malted barley while Scotch is entirely malted barley. (This is partly because there was an extra tax on malt in Ireland)

· Scotch barley is dried with peat smoke which gives the usual scotch aroma to whisky.

· Scotch is cask aged for at least 2 years, Irish at least 3 years.

· Irish whiskey is distilled three times in larger than normal copper "pot" stills. The pot stills and the extra distillation produce a uniquely delicate drink. Developing later, Scotch uses continuous process stills.
I have a Lagavulin 16 in my collection. It's very good but the Laphroaig comes stronger and I love that smoke man!
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I don't have a real sophisticated palate. I like my drink like my cars, raw and brutal. I suspect the older, smoother Laphroaig would similarly leave me wanting. Behind my three bottles of young Laphroaig, I am quite fond of Ardbeg, then I jump over to Skye and the peppery Talisker. After those, I have some bottles that are ok, but no must haves. I am working on a bottle of Highland Park which isn't bad, quite complex.

I just picked up a bottle of Sailor Jerry spiced rum and i must say, it beats Captain Morgan effortlessly.

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PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:You don't own the forum man... ease up. He posted some good information and you got angry, then somehow tried to twist the situation and prove him wrong... which I still don't understand.
Thanks for your insight. Go back and read his first post which doesn't seem to be too out of the norm for him.

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Oatmealman wrote:If that was aimed at me...
It wasn't but nice rant. I wanna see pics of your jeep, that thing is going to be massive.

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BusyBadger wrote:Funny that you mention Oban, I've got a bottle of it in the cabinet right now along with a bottle of Aberlour and I was wondering which I should have a drink of, guess the dilemma is solved!

Anyway, to answer your question, in one word - peat. Because Irish whiskey doesn't use it there's not the smoky finish that you get in scotch whiskey*. Another thing is that when most people talk about Scotch whiskeys they are usually referring to single malt scotch, though there are certainly blended scotches. And the situation is almost opposite when you talk about Irish whiskeys - most of them are blended but they have tried to capitalize on the popularity of single malt scotches by making single malt Irish whiskey. There are also a lot more flavours/varieties of scotch than Irish whiskey...but that's just a numbers game really. Scotland is covered with distilleries while there are just a few in Ireland.

Give scotch some time...it's not a "love at first taste" thing. If you can find a sample try something like Longmorn 12yr., it's malty without being peaty.

*When a friend of mine was moving away we shared a bottle of scotch (Glenmorangie 18) and watched "Braveheart" for the umpteenth time, his brother came by for a bit and wanted some and after the first draught his comment was,"It's like...like drinking a campfire." I can only imagine his reaction had we been drinking a bottle of Lagavulin.
Good info! So how would the Longmorn 12yr compare to the Oban?

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Empty V wrote:
Oatmealman wrote:If that was aimed at me...
It wasn't but nice rant. I wanna see pics of your jeep, that thing is going to be massive.

thanks i have good ranting skills.I sometimes babble in real life too,I've got pictures of before it was really finished and unfortunately it's at my dad's dealership because i just blew a steering line(opps) and i snagged a rear hardline on the boulders last time i went out and i had to vice grip it shut so i could get home.

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This almost a year ago that it looked like this just with 39.5's on it and lots of trimming done.I'm gonna only try and raise it 4 inches of suspension lift to fit the top loaders,and obviously i will have gained 7 inches of lift from the tires from my 39.5 to 54 inch tire step up.I'll get a picture next time I'm down at my dad's shop,it's gonna be a little bit though,it's kinda out of the way and I'm extremely busy now with school starting a few weeks ago.

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Empty V wrote:Ahh I remember you know. You're that 23yo kid who thinks he knows more then everyone and doesn't own a Nissan but still bothers the s*** out of everyone on a Nissan forum.
Are you talking about oatmealman?

If so, I believe his username used to be Ghetto.

He got it changed a couple years ago because he acted like an idiot, kind of like nala, and everyone ripped on him.
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thanks i have good ranting skills.I sometimes babble in real life too,I've got pictures of before it was really finished and unfortunately it's at my dad's dealership because i just blew a steering line(opps) and i snagged a rear hardline on the boulders last time i went out and i had to vice grip it shut so i could get home.
Shouldn't all the lines be held tight to the frame? This would minimize hangups.

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Empty V wrote:
PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:You don't own the forum man... ease up. He posted some good information and you got angry, then somehow tried to twist the situation and prove him wrong... which I still don't understand.
Thanks for your insight. Go back and read his first post which doesn't seem to be too out of the norm for him.
Indeed. First post was the harsh truth. Kick's like Booker's bourbon, don't it?

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PoorManQ45 wrote:
Empty V wrote:Ahh I remember you know. You're that 23yo kid who thinks he knows more then everyone and doesn't own a Nissan but still bothers the s*** out of everyone on a Nissan forum.
Are you talking about oatmealman?

If so, I believe his username used to be Ghetto.

He got it changed a couple years ago because he acted like an idiot, kind of like nala, and everyone ripped on him.
Oatmealman wrote:
thanks i have good ranting skills.I sometimes babble in real life too,I've got pictures of before it was really finished and unfortunately it's at my dad's dealership because i just blew a steering line(opps) and i snagged a rear hardline on the boulders last time i went out and i had to vice grip it shut so i could get home.
Shouldn't all the lines be held tight to the frame? This would minimize hangups.

yes they should be but i dragged the axle tube over the rock and as I slid down it snagged the brake line off the axle tube.I unfortunately had the hardlines on the back of the tubes instead of on top like they should have been,i'm gonna mount them on top when i get around to replacing the few parts that are trqashed.

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I went back and read the original post. If its all true, then its full of good tips for this weekend (Mizzou game, brother's birthday, etc etc). Seems like the verdict on sugar is up in the air.

All I know is, liquor leads to vomiting and headaches, even top shelf drinks, while beer goes down easy and leaves in an equally pleasurable manner. Maker's Mark is thoroughly satisfying, however.

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Jesda wrote: All I know is, liquor leads to vomiting and headaches, even top shelf drinks, while beer goes down easy and leaves in an equally pleasurable manner. Maker's Mark is thoroughly satisfying, however.
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