The A/C has new competition.. its smaller, its uglier, but its a tad bit quicker

[rjdmmfl1]

New turbocharged Chevy Cobalt SS!... what do you guys think about it compared to the A/C?

http://www.chevrolet.com/cobalt/

[rjdmmfl1]

after re reading, it appears more geared towards competing with the Sentra and Civic Si... but it looks like, for about the same price, it'll walk both of them...

oh yeah, and it has a top speed of 160 mph... so if you see a little chevy supercharged SS Cobalt pull up next to you, don't take it for granted, you just may get embarrassed!

[ThatGuyRoger]

im not going to hate on GM, they do make quality automobiles, but the Cobalt SS doesnt compare to the A/C. maybe it does perform better, but the a/c looks a hell of alot better and roomier (sp?) but for someone on a budget then that maybe an option, but i love my a/c. also at work (enterprise) we have the regular cobalts and they are a POS. great on gas but its too simple and plain inside.we also have the pontiac g5 coupe, those can't compare eitherA/C FTW

[rjdmmfl1]

I agree 100%, hence my second post... it isn't really in the same class as the A/C (hell it doesn't even come with an option for leather seats), but its a quick little car.

When my car got damaged, I was in a 2007 chevy cobalt sport (not turbocharged) and it sucked. The interior was the absolute cheapest piece of crap I have ever driven. It just felt super duper cheap. N-E-Way, no need to beat a dad horse, I just saw this and thought it was interesting... hell for this price, if I were a young kid (which is the group these cars are targeting) I would much rather have a Scion TC and turbo charge that than get a Chevy cobalt, even if it has 260- hp!

[NISSANtonio-3.5SBCoupe]

i dont like the way it looks..ill have to say that it is impressive that its slightly quicker than our 3.5se for about the same price... but it looks nowhere near as good as our coupes, and since its 260 hp and runs only 14.1 (edit) when its turbocharged, then it wont be able to keep up against a turbo altima coupe.

[rjdmmfl1]

i dont like the way it looks..ill have to say that it is impressive that its slightly quicker than our 3.5se for about the same price... but it looks nowhere near as good as our coupes, and since its 260 hp and runs only 14.3 when its turbocharged, then it wont be able to keep up against a turbo altima coupe.

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Actually, I think it does 14.1 in the quarter, of course it's not competition to the turbo A/C 3.5 , but I think it would be a nice day at the track to pair up a turbo 2.5 A/C with the Chevy SS supercharged Cobalt! ....

And as always... A/C FTMFW!!!!!!!!!

[adidas2go]

thats good power out of that ecotec. Can't say much for chevy's 4 cylinder line up, but its making good power

[{WBK}Viper]

A supercharged SS isn't a comparison to a AC. It's apples to oranges.

Now a Supercharged SS compared to a "SUPERCHARGED" AC....then we're talking apples to apples and agian it's no comparison....AC will blow it away.

[PHENOMenalVinyl]

its a chevy....My friend had this car and loved the speed it had, but the interior is cheap as hell. He said everything always rattled. He also blew the sub it had in it within the first month. Its fast but not an overall good car like ours....enough said ITS A CHEVY

[mcheddadi]

New turbocharged Chevy Cobalt SS!... what do you guys think about it compared to the A/C?

http://www.chevrolet.com/cobalt/

I'd go lol next to one haha. turbo lag from a I4 compared to a NA 3.5L coupe is crazy

[spockrock]

14.1 in the 1/4 mile isn't that what our cars run?? give or take?

[Canadian Coupe]

Eeew. Chevy's are nasty. I'd even take a Honda over a Chev.

[adidas2go]

Eh, sorry to tell you, but you won't pull 260hp out of a supercharged 2.5L a/c without risking the engine @ 8-10 psi. QR25DE isn't a strong motor. Chevy will have created a miracle if they built a reliable 260hp supercharged 2.0L. Chevy has never taken this path before, and neither has anyone else. Turbo 4cyl, sure, they have been successful. Mitsubishi's 4g63t, Volks/Audi's 1.8T, Nissan's sr20det, Subaru's EJ25. But the supercharged 4 cylinder? Only Mini and Mercedes really ever produced a lineup like that. Both with 4 cyl s/c motors that produced less than 200hp. Chevy really is taking a leap here.

its a chevy....My friend had this car and loved the speed it had, but the interior is cheap as hell. He said everything always rattled. He also blew the sub it had in it within the first month. Its fast but not an overall good car like ours....enough said ITS A CHEVY

Different car. Last Cobalt SS had 205 hp. This one has 260, and possibly a much better build, considering the way chevy is taking over the domestic auto market with its build quality now.

[08altima35]

it still has horrible design. the look of the car is pure sh*t and i really feel it to have very little potential. 260 hp and 14.1 stock. that would prolly be dead nutz with the 3.5se 6mt stock, but this car comes factory with a supercharger. throw a supercharger or turbo on the 3.5 and it's not even a competition. yeah the cost of both cars are not even close, but it's still a chevy and the little money they put into designing the car speaks for the cheapness that it is. maybe a decent powertrain, but other than that everything on this car will be typical chevy.

[adidas2go]

Totally agree with the aesthetic flaws. I'm just saying, its pretty impressive they have confidence in the 2.0L s/c 260hp power train of the new cobalt. Considering how much pride chevy puts in the power train of its models, this could be promising

[mcheddadi]

Eh, sorry to tell you, but you won't pull 260hp out of a supercharged 2.5L a/c without risking the engine @ 8-10 psi. QR25DE isn't a strong motor. Chevy will have created a miracle if they built a reliable 260hp supercharged 2.0L. Chevy has never taken this path before, and neither has anyone else. Turbo 4cyl, sure, they have been successful. Mitsubishi's 4g63t, Volks/Audi's 1.8T, Nissan's sr20det, Subaru's EJ25. But the supercharged 4 cylinder? Only Mini and Mercedes really ever produced a lineup like that. Both with 4 cyl s/c motors that produced less than 200hp. Chevy really is taking a leap here.

Different car. Last Cobalt SS had 205 hp. This one has 260, and possibly a much better build, considering the way chevy is taking over the domestic auto market with its build quality now.

OMG! I forgot what I4 we were talking about! this is the 2.0L Ecotec turbocharged !!! IT IS LEGENDARY! some guys made 1000HP OUT OF IT!!!

Have you heard of the 1000hp build guide from GM for the cobalt??

That 4 cylinder ecotec engine is hitting 6.6 seconds in 1/4 mile.

Redbull's solstice drift car is running 500hp, and they are still tuning.http://www.worldcarfans.com/20...g-car

OMG! WE HAVE SOME SERIOUS COMPETITION PERFORMANCE WISE (not in the looks department though HA! LOL)

[Racingline]

OMG! I forgot what I4 we were talking about! this is the 2.0L Ecotec turbocharged !!! IT IS LEGENDARY! some guys made 1000HP OUT OF IT!!!

Have you heard of the 1000hp build guide from GM for the cobalt??

That 4 cylinder ecotec engine is hitting 6.6 seconds in 1/4 mile.

Redbull's solstice drift car is running 500hp, and they are still tuning.http://www.worldcarfans.com/20...g-car

OMG! WE HAVE SOME SERIOUS COMPETITION PERFORMANCE WISE (not in the looks department though HA! LOL)

THANK YOU!! I was waiting for someone to pick up on this. So far from all reports I've heard, stock for stock, the NEW cobalt will likely hand the 3.5 it's *** 9.5 time out of 10, especially in the twisties. Reports are saying this thing is very well tuned and is beating highly modded ITR's in road courses. Throw in the fact that it has launch control fro 1/4 drags, and most of you will lose. Sad but true.

And while some are saying it won't stand a chance against an A/C turbo 3.5....lets be fair......you just changed the game and raised the cost of the car. Give the SS the same $5000-$7000 or even half that and it'll eat you again.

But the A/C does look better

[uh-oh_8_coupe]

colbot only has 5gears

cant wait till someone makes a 1000hp a/c in both i4 and v6

[rjdmmfl1]

THANK YOU!! I was waiting for someone to pick up on this. So far from all reports I've heard, stock for stock, the NEW cobalt will likely hand the 3.5 it's *** 9.5 time out of 10, especially in the twisties. Reports are saying this thing is very well tuned and is beating highly modded ITR's in road courses. Throw in the fact that it has launch control fro 1/4 drags, and most of you will lose. Sad but true.

And while some are saying it won't stand a chance against an A/C turbo 3.5....lets be fair......you just changed the game and raised the cost of the car. Give the SS the same $5000-$7000 or even half that and it'll eat you again.

But the A/C does look better

It is a fast car, but hey $hit moving fast smells just as bad as $hit that takes a little longer to get out... the car is cheap, and ugly, and looks like $hit... but it is quick!!!!!!

[Racingline]

It is a fast car, but hey $hit moving fast smells just as bad as $hit that takes a little longer to get out... the car is cheap, and ugly, and looks like $hit... but it is quick!!!!!!

I agree, it's a relative arguement. For style and quality it loses

for reliable high performance givin the price.....it easily wins

[mcheddadi]

I'm more interested in the motor than the car lool

the saturn sky redline has the same turbo charged motor and so does the solstice gxp. those cars are bargain on wheels!

[rmezz13]

I didn't read this whole thread.....

I drove the saturn sky turbo, which is got to be the same motor, all the numbers are the same..... Not that impressive, and really really quiet. I would way rather have an a/c than any other car out there in its class..... Actually if i wouldn't have bought the Z before i knew about the new a/c, i would own one. I love your cars!

[mcheddadi]

I didn't read this whole thread.....

I drove the saturn sky turbo, which is got to be the same motor, all the numbers are the same..... Not that impressive, and really really quiet. I would way rather have an a/c than any other car out there in its class..... Actually if i wouldn't have bought the Z before i knew about the new a/c, i would own one. I love your cars!

QFT! lol

thanks!

[rjdmmfl1]

I didn't read this whole thread.....

I drove the saturn sky turbo, which is got to be the same motor, all the numbers are the same..... Not that impressive, and really really quiet. I would way rather have an a/c than any other car out there in its class..... Actually if i wouldn't have bought the Z before i knew about the new a/c, i would own one. I love your cars!

wow, that's surprising to hear... I would have thought the Saturn Sky turbo would have been more fun to drive... and you drive a Z so you know what fun is, so I'll take your word for is...

BUt the saturn sky turbo is so much sexier than the cobalt... if I was into roadsters, it would have been in the running, but that's the same reason I didn't go with the Z... I love the performance and looks, but I need a back seat and a trunk

[mikegtr06]

the same reason I didn't go with the Z... I love the performance and looks, but I need a back seat and a trunk

same reason for me too, i agree with everyone else the cobalt might be quicker but its still a chevy..... and its really really ugly.

[NightSky]

I wouldn't touch that thing with a ten foot stick (yes, using a pole for an analogy is too good for this car).

[08altima35]

And while some are saying it won't stand a chance against an A/C turbo 3.5....lets be fair......you just changed the game and raised the cost of the car. Give the SS the same $5000-$7000 or even half that and it'll eat you again.

or even half that? c'mon dude, lets be logical. to take out the supercharger and throw in a turbo charger the cost would be through the roof. factor the cost for sc deinstall, tc install, new exhaust, and tune. maybe it has a strong motor, but it would cost you more than 5k to beat a boosted 3.5se because as soon as you take off the sc your just another 4cyl chevy.

[Canadian Coupe]

Doesn't matter. The Cobalt is still a Chevy product which means it sucks and will likely disintegrate, blow up or completely fall apart on you at the unlikeliest of times.

In other words... it's a piece of crap.

The thing looks ugly as all hell and likely couldn't score in a ****-a-buck whorehouse with a fistfull of dollar bills.

The Altima Coupe will destroy it.

[Hussain]

just for the record, the NEW ss cobalt is TURBO and NOT supercharged. the new Cobalt SS is supposed to be hella fast not only in a straight away but on corners too. the handling was done in Germany where they tested it daily on the Numinberg track (i can't spell soooo ya). so its pretty fast BUT i'd take a SRT-4 neon over it any day and if course i'd take the Altima coupe over it. when i was at the track i was next to a STAGE 2 SS Cobalt supercharged and the guys best time was i think a 14.0. it's a fast little car BUT not too much faster then the 3.5se (it is faster then the 3.5se by a little bit though). plus my friend was saying something about the new SS cobalt coming stock with a GM version of a "WOT box".

[Racingline]

the new TURBO 08 cobalt also has launch control... push a button floor the gas and get the perfect launch everytime.

Again for the record the car may be ****, but the engine is one of the best power producing engine of our time.