Testing waters.. My Q..

Post by **MiniMan** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:42 am

They're still $7-8k... gorgeous cars though. Here's a great example of one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...=WDVW

I've always loved the styling of 'em, but I never knew they came in a 6 speed or with 230hp *gawking*.

Corey

Post by **Jesda** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:42 am

As far as FWD midsize luxury goes, I give the nod to the Cadillac Seville STS. The Legend is a great car, but lets not get confused and start thinking its in the same league.

-Jesda

Post by **elwesso** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:42 am

I took my car for a long drive in the countryside of Indiana yesterday and this will be tough parting with it.. it runs so flawlessly, so smooth and powerful...

Post by **maxnix** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:42 am

Jesda wrote:As far as FWD midsize luxury goes, I give the nod to the Cadillac Seville STS. The Legend is a great car, but lets not get confused and start thinking its in the same league.

You're right. The Cadillac couldn't even approach the Acura's road bra for build quality. It's like comparing tin to steel.

Post by **squeefoo** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:42 am

Not sure I ever heard a reason for selling it Wes.

Post by **Jesda** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:42 am

maxnix wrote:You're right. The Cadillac couldn't even approach the Acura's road bra for build quality. It's like comparing tin to steel.

At a certain price point, people choose luxury over build quality. This is why Acura is a brand relegated to the sidelines of luxury, while Cadillac leaps ahead (it was the #1 selling luxury brand in 1999, to my surprise).

Honda/Acura know how to make great cars. But fail at impressing upscale buyers.

This is also why the S-class and the new techno-glitz BMWs are hot sellers. When you get to about $60k (the STS can hit $59k optioned) theres sometimes a point where impressing others or the driving experience itself outweighs all else. The Acura RL never hit that price point. I guess you could call it "practical luxury" -- I call it "Why dont you just get an Accord with leather and a sunroof, you moron?"

At a certain price, I start expecting any of the following: eight cylinders, style, size, comfort, power sent to the rear wheels, and maybe brand cachet. Cadillac at least had the style, the awesome Northstar, and the brand heritage.

My folks, for example, pay cash for their cars and trade in regularly. Long term quality really doesnt matter since they never put over 70k on a vehicle before calling it old.

Infiniti started following the path of Acura in the late 90s -- the end result is excellent automobiles without much appeal. Thank goodness they stopped going down that route.

-Jesda

Post by **natsoundup** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:42 am

One of the reasons I like the Q is that it doesn't scream money...

It exudes a quiet type of confidence. That's the way it runs, too , if you think about it.

Post by **elwesso** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:42 am

Agreed and whats also different about the Q is hardly anyone knows what they are.....

Ive had my Q called a BMW, lincoln, mercedes, lexus, cadillac, and so on... Basically everythign but what it is!

Post by **squeefoo** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:42 am

elwesso wrote:
Ive had my Q called a BMW, lincoln, mercedes, lexus, cadillac, and so on... Basically everythign but what it is!

Same thing here. But if it's not a pickup or minivan you're an elitist snob. Your statement underlines what ignorance there is on the left side of the bell curve, which I believe should show an average of 90. (at least around here) From what I've seen, Q owners seem to be grouped generally right. :ylsuper

Post by **elwesso** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:42 am

Since Ive got nothing to hide, Ill go ahead and tell you what would replace my crimson pearl gem....

I havent actually seen it yet but plan to drive down there, and meet up with NICO member REX... Was planning on playing golf but even for a "goat ranch" type course is more expensive than the nicer courses around here.. When I said $20-$30 for a round I was laughed off the planet...

1995 Q45, IPQ... Texas car, 114k.. Windows tinted from day one so its got perfect leather... Cosmetics are perfect or nearly perfect with a ding or 2 (said theres a small ding on the hood)... Its also got one of those flip up DVD players with lots of stuff in the sound system (this was all done wihle the car was under warranty, so no maintenace was avoided for this)... Oil changed LESS than 90 days every time, tune up done (filters), plugs done at 60k...

I already have a 35 point inspection list, which I will be doing a writeup on.. Those 35 points dont include driveability, cosmetic stuff, making sure all the options work.....

Post by **squeefoo** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:42 am

Sounds nice, Nothing to fix, just gas 'n go! If I know you; there somehow will be upgrades! BTW can you describe "goat ranch" my Dad has been a golf freak since the mid 50's (can't play now -he's blind) and he'd probably like the definition.

PS: I gotta keep the misanthropic screeds to a dull roar. I'm immersed in cretinism and it bleeds over to places it shouldn't-Sorry

Post by **elwesso** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:42 am

Yes there will be upgrades.. No one knows my evil plot for this one!! :devil:

Goat ranch is a central indiana term for a really crappy course... IE greens are really shaggy, tee boxes not cut, and the UNICUT (no differentiation between rough, fairway, etc) .. The grass has got to be long enough for the goats to eat, right.. You get the idea..

Post by **squeefoo** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:42 am

So a goat ranch is like the military slang for goat f--- IE; nobody likes it but they have to do it, play golf on that is...

Testing waters.. My Q..

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