well i told you i'd be getting them and doing a review sort thing. well i hate typing more than once so ctrl+V :i just recently bought & installed my tein he' s on my 95 240. the install took less than a hour and a half, and adjusting the ride height was a breeze. its a 30 way adjustable dampening coilover, with full body threaded shocks, upper pillow ball mounts, and all the necesary hardware. before when i asked about this suspension, many people told me it would be to rough for the streets. this coilover is not the one for you if you dont plan on actually DRIVING your car. if you want a daily driven mildly tuned grocery getter, i suggest the tein ha's. they are soft and comfortable with a 336/280 spring rate with a 16 way adjustable as compared to the HE's which are 448/336 with 30 way right now they are set at 8 from hardest up front and 6 in the rear. we'll see how that goes. the hardest setting on the HE's will get you dizzy and a pretty good headache, the softest setting is actually very nice (to me). i can take turns at 80 and hold it with good tires. i havent tried to drift with it yet, because tickests are way too expensive, and doing it on public roads is just retarded. i would suggest a LSD if you do get the HE's because this suspension makes your chassis like a wood board. when i first backed off my driveway, i got stuck with one tire in the air. open differentials suck just to clarify everything. its alright, i'll have my lsd in soon enough. i was very impressed with the quality of these coilovers. everything was just perfect. i had to throw my stock wheels back on the front because i had a +42 offset 17x8.5 that cleared under cheap springs and stock struts. i believe that their website said to get nothing larger than a +38 for the fronts of s13s as well as s14s. the upper PBM's are also really cool, got to adjust the camber within minutes. it's really awesome. i am really happy with my purchase, and plan to start auto crossing now since i dont have the blown shock problem anymore. anyways time for pictures!!
Tein HE (suspension for the sideways driver)
Keep in mind, when adjusting the dampening, that the intention of doing so should only be for meeting the 'critical dampening' level of the given track/course/surface you're running on.Making adjustments to the car's roll balance, oversteer/understeer, are much better left for different rate springs and adjustable anti-roll bars.
If you get stuck with a tire in the air, apply the parking brake slightly. Doing this should get the open-diff to put power to the wheel on the ground.. or maybe thats just for torsen diffs.. meh
If you get stuck with a tire in the air, apply the parking brake slightly. Doing this should get the open-diff to put power to the wheel on the ground.. or maybe thats just for torsen diffs.. meh
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sil80drifter
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Sorry to get in here this late, but this looks like a good thread to ask this:
As far as roughness goes. How rough is rough?
I have an 89 coupe with over 150k miles. It rattles as it is -on stock suspension. Nothing even close to unbearable, but that many miles on a production car of this sort will produce rattles. No problem with me. I didn't buy a Cadillac, I bought the 240 to make it fast and handle great. I had H&R Race springs (460f 350r)on my civic before and it was pretty harsh at times. Though I just said I bought a car for the purpose of making it handle great, I'm putting my foot in my mouth by caring about rattles and harshness. I would still like different opinions on it though.
Thanks in advance, anthony
As far as roughness goes. How rough is rough?
I have an 89 coupe with over 150k miles. It rattles as it is -on stock suspension. Nothing even close to unbearable, but that many miles on a production car of this sort will produce rattles. No problem with me. I didn't buy a Cadillac, I bought the 240 to make it fast and handle great. I had H&R Race springs (460f 350r)on my civic before and it was pretty harsh at times. Though I just said I bought a car for the purpose of making it handle great, I'm putting my foot in my mouth by caring about rattles and harshness. I would still like different opinions on it though.
Thanks in advance, anthony
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NY-240
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I have HE and I Love them!!! Best investment I've ever spend on my s13.
At sharp turns I hardly noticed any bodyroll at all. On the Streets it rides VERY harsh. My organs can feel every little imperfections on NYC streets.
Highly recommended if you're planning to spend alot of track time. For streets I would recommed Flex or HA
I also suggest stiffen the chassis first because hard suspensions put alot of stress on the car. Especailly on a 14yrs old S13.
At sharp turns I hardly noticed any bodyroll at all. On the Streets it rides VERY harsh. My organs can feel every little imperfections on NYC streets.
Highly recommended if you're planning to spend alot of track time. For streets I would recommed Flex or HA
I also suggest stiffen the chassis first because hard suspensions put alot of stress on the car. Especailly on a 14yrs old S13.
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hyb force soldier
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--chetTrue about the shocks being valved for a specific spring rate from the factory. Unlike in my H&R Race spring KYB AGX combo. A little on that setup, which I'm well aware might be a popular choice among prospective shock/spring combo buyers. Anywho, I had this setup on my 95 Civic hatch. The AGX had four settings front and back. On hardest setting, the car cornered great (as great as a $500 suspension can anyway), but the ride got stiffer and the car rattled like crazy. What was unusual, was that the hatch would have it's rough days and once in a while it would be sound as a mouse. I mean that on setting 4, somedays it would feel really tight and quiet. Unlike most days on 4 when it's rattly as all hell. Still it cornered great.
Back to my question. AGX shocks are probably **** compared to TEIN. Not to get all partial for TEIN or anything, but if the popularity vote stands for anything here I'd say that TEIN is a quality product. Not just in appearance, but more importantly, performance. So, being that TEIN valves there dampers for a specific spring rate, in the case of the HE, bottom line: is it stiffer than the AGX H&R Race combo?
If this cannot be answered then how about answering this question:
Say you have two identical cars, say two 89 S13's. Both have many miles on the chassis and rattle like a normal 14-year-old car does. One car has stock suspension and the other TEIN HE's. Nothing else done to either car. You drive both cars over some nasty rail road tracks going 30mph. Which car will feel more like **** and/or rattle more?
Thanks and sorry for hijacking, Ant
Back to my question. AGX shocks are probably **** compared to TEIN. Not to get all partial for TEIN or anything, but if the popularity vote stands for anything here I'd say that TEIN is a quality product. Not just in appearance, but more importantly, performance. So, being that TEIN valves there dampers for a specific spring rate, in the case of the HE, bottom line: is it stiffer than the AGX H&R Race combo?
If this cannot be answered then how about answering this question:
Say you have two identical cars, say two 89 S13's. Both have many miles on the chassis and rattle like a normal 14-year-old car does. One car has stock suspension and the other TEIN HE's. Nothing else done to either car. You drive both cars over some nasty rail road tracks going 30mph. Which car will feel more like **** and/or rattle more?
Thanks and sorry for hijacking, Ant
well i have a completely stock 91 coupe with just tein HE's on them, one of my freinds have kyb agx/ground control on a 93 hatch, and another have koni yellows/whiteline springs. my car is alot stiffer and handles noticably better but there cars ride alot ruffer and rattle alot more, if that helps at all.
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tktrthomas1
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YomnyM wrote:Ok question on the He's damping settings, how to set it, for some reason i could only count 25 clicks on mine, so to adjust it i would go fully clockwise and then count counter clockwise? and never go past 16 clicks counter clockwise from fully clockwise position? Thank you.
I think you have it opposite. Counter clock wise goes softer. Clock wise gets harder. These are suppposed to be only 16 way adjustable coils, someone correct me if i'm wrong.....