Tea Party? 56K warning

[audtatious]

At the expense of another Joe. I'm sure it could work much better if free enterprise/Capitalism was not being attacked at the same time.

[Armelius]

I thought the guy pouring tar on the steps at the government building in Louisville did a better job in protesting taxes than all these people carrying signs.

I also find it weird that people that are not white or ghey do not show up at many of these protests. No Norml people either. Add some of those people and the media will take your protests seriously.

First tea party they had to dress up like native americans.

[Cold_Zero]

What are you talking about? I expected the event to be an all white, male, over 50 event. There were plenty of non white people at the event, plenty of old women and young women and kids.

Not sure how to determine if someone is ghey or not.. As far as I know there is no way to tell by just looking.

The woman (Katrina Pearson) that spoke at the Atlanta TEA Party was a young black single mom. She had an awesome speech. But hey, she must be a racist redneck for speaking. eh?

[OriginalWheelman]

But at the same time, government money is currently replacing the private sector's money that has been pulled out.

But all of this money and then some has been / will be pulled out of the private sector already. Won't that cause economic problems?

[smockers83]

But all of this money and then some has been / will be pulled out of the private sector already. Won't that cause economic problems?

The money pulled out by the private sector already has caused economic problems. That's one of the major reasons as to why we experienced what we have in the past several months. Now, we are seeing private sector money in the form of the consumer returning and now we're seeing earnings increasing.

When the private sector pulls out money from the economy, it either sits on it or saves it. Saving tends to happen more during a recession, as we have experienced as well. Savings rates are somewhere above 3%, highest since 2003 I believe. This increase in savings has an initial downside factor on spending as the consumer and private market switches to saving, but in the long run, this increased savings increases spending.

[OriginalWheelman]

Right but this is tax money we are talking about. All of this money has to come from the private sector to become government money. So the government is forcibly taking money from the private sector to give to the private sector?

[smockers83]

Well, the government already takes from the private sector. So if the private sector starts saving, they're saving income which is still taxed. I do see what you're saying though, that when the private sector starts to save more, this reduces the government's ability to raise additional funds. True, but only on the sales side as they aren't able to collect on the numerous taxes on products.

This is also where deficit spending comes in.

[480sx]

The government is trying to label these people 'right wing extreamists' when in reality they are just people sick of the government in general from all different aspects. There are some right wingers, some left wingers, and some moderates all of which played a part in the tea parties. You could say, the government is trying to minimize or, 'swiftboat' the real meaning of the tea parties.

[audtatious]

They were tea bagging parties, duh!!!!

[RiceRocketGal]

Who is labeled "extremist" depends on which party is in power at the time.

Right now the left is in power... so the right is anti-government and that makes us extremist. When we were in power the left was anti-government and that made them extremists.

We will truly be awakened when we as a nation stop allowing our government to use the propaganda tactic of labeling us "extreme" because we disagree with them.. even when they are doing it to the other side. So long as we are willing to go along with the propaganda when it is the other side being labeled... we have no right or room to gripe when it gets to be our turn to be marginalized and categorized as extremists.

[audtatious]

I would not have called a large majority of Dems "extremists". Now, those with Code Pink and other similar groups would have been labeled as such. Politicians like Pelosi and Reid are close with their pressing of a fully socialized US.

[RiceRocketGal]

I would not have called a large majority of Dems "extremists". Now, those with Code Pink and other similar groups would have been labeled as such. Politicians like Pelosi and Reid are close with their pressing of a fully socialized US.

That's why I don't like to participate in these events when people like Hannity, Beck, and Limbaugh are involved... because it makes us look as extremist as Code Pink. Those people don't further our agenda... they use our agenda as a soap box from which to further themselves.... and in the process they keep anyone who isn't already a hard-core righter from taking us seriously.

I mean... If a group of average frustrated citizens got together and protested the war... the rest of us would look at them and say "Wow... those people must have lost loved ones in combat or maybe they have a point... let's talk with them and see what's up." Maybe we wouldn't change our minds.. but we would certainly consider their positions valid. Take those same people at the same protest... and stand Michael Moore, Chris Mathews, Rachel Maddow, and Jenine Garafalo in front of them with microphones... and we would roll our eyes... think "Pacifist, left-wing extremist nut-jobs!"... laugh at them... and walk away.

[audtatious]

How can you put radio and TV commentators like Hannity, Rush and Beck in the same category as Code Pink? They don't preach hate they simply call BS on everything that does not fit in their "box".

[CakeDaddy]

That's why I don't like to participate in these events when people like Hannity, Beck, and Limbaugh are involved... because it makes us look as extremist as Code Pink. Those people don't further our agenda... they use our agenda as a soap box from which to further themselves....

this is so true. I hear my republicans friends preach these exact words over and over again. If Hannity & Rush only knew what the majority of the repubs are saying about them...................

[WDRacing]

Perhaps you should apply that same line of thinking to your own comments. Not all Repubs are right wing thinking, we're just not Liberal in opinion is all. Not everything is right or left, in fact 90% of us are central or like me, Independant. I can go either way on most issues. I choose to let the situation dictate what decision should be made, not base my choices on some general set of values and make unwaivering opinions based on media propaganda. Yet you respond to us like we're all part of some Liberal hate group. Or we're out to get Obama simply because we didn't vote for him. Well that simply isn't true.

Hanity the Rush are a dying breed. They represent the old ways, America will wake-up and realize that eventually. Unfortunatly, until then we're left with the Liberal party. Giving away this much money to the people it's being given to, is not the answer. It's a percentage of OUR paycheck being given away to someone else. We don't like it, so we're saying something about it.

The Tea Parties are about people like me that are tired of wasteful spending. I was against Bush spending so much as I'll be against any Gov that wants to increase spending when all we ever see for it is basically the same thing.

Obama is no different then any other politician to take that seat. He's just another person doing what his party wants him to.

We have ceased to be, by the people for the people.

[CakeDaddy]

^... another good comment.

To make a decision before hearing all the fact is absolutely ignorant. This is what a lot of people do in order to stay true to their party/side. Atleast hear all the facts before make a judgement. Unlike Hannity and Rush.............. they are a lost cause.

[RiceRocketGal]

How can you put radio and TV commentators like Hannity, Rush and Beck in the same category as Code Pink? They don't preach hate they simply call BS on everything that does not fit in their "box".

I didn't compare them with Code Pink. I said they make US look like Code Pink. I compared them with Garafalo, Moore, Mathews, and Maddow. I see no real difference in them. They are just as extreme right as those other loons are extreme left. They are all the same bobble heads with the same self-serving motives. Mathews, Moore, Maddow, and Garafalo just exploit the left's agenda while Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Coulter, etc exploit the right's agenda.

Think I'm wrong? Ask yourself how famous Limbaugh was before he began running the Clintons to the ground in the early 90s. You will discover he was born with a silver spoon in his @ss and was a small time DJ on a small time radio station in Cape Gerardo MO where he was only hired after his uncle.. a federal judge.. pulled strings to get him a job in his teens. His whole family are lawyers, politicians, and judges in crooked small Missouri towns. He did the small town DJ thing until he discovered that he could get attention by saying crazy extremist crap on the radio... and so he ran with it. He doesn't actually believe any of the crap he says... as is evident in the many years he spend claiming drug addicts should not be allowed to get treatment... they should all be locked away... all the while high on Oxycontin himself and buying it illegally through his maid.

Compare him to Garafalo... a comedian for a while and tried a stint at movies but everything she touched turned to s***... so she became a extremist bobble head on Air America....

Hey if ya don't have real talent and are too lazy to get an education... you can always make millions spewing vitriol on the tv and radio.

[Jesda]

I went to a couple record stores instead. Picked up The Cars and The Commodores on LPs and Don Henley on a 45.

I did a tax day protest in 1999. There were only five of us. Now that Obama is in office, suddenly people care about big government. Its like gee, thanks guys, thanks a whole lot for being philosophically consistent and showing genuine concern for the constitution.

Oh well, better late than never.

I wish Sean Hannity would stop associating himself with libertarian movements.

[RiceRocketGal]

Ya that's kinda what I was talking about. The whole "hypocrisy" thing people on my side are doing now just stinks. Our government has been out of control for decades but the only time it's "Patriotic" or "Being a good American" to say so is when the OTHER guy's party is in power. I think it's just the opposite. I think the real patriots are the ones who stand up against their OWN party. Anyone can shout "Down with the opposing team!"... it's the people with enough honesty and autonomy to say "WTF is OUR TEAM doing?" that deserve to be called patriots... because these kinds of problems can only be fixed from within.

[4cefed]

So July 4th is almost here, anyone going to the next round? The closest one to me is West Rutland Vt. so I'll probably go there.