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Post by **cvc9216** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

Anybody using their mounts? They keep pushing back the release date and I keep asking for pictures, but they don't have any. I don't want to buy without seeing pictures. Anybody have pics of the mounts or an installation using them?

Post by **Joe** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

**** STMthey are screwing a friend and myself right now

their mounts are drilled wrong and their "7 day turnaround" on the wiring has just entered its 5th week

Post by **krayton** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

yep, tooks us about 2 full days to re-drill their mounts just to work.

theres a lot more problems, but not to sure if we wanna go over them right now, but we will soon

i'll also get pics when we figure what we're gonna do

Post by **rb250sx** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

I purchased their mounts. Im still waiting for my engine though so I havent been able to try them. What other problems are there with the mounts other than the holes are drilled wrong? PM me or send me a message on AIM if you wish: VaultGod

btw, i have pictures of the mounts here:http://filebox.vt.edu/users/dafritz/

Post by **Joe** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

they said the mounts would move the engine down then back 1.5 inchesdosent move the motor down more than .2 inches and dosent move it back at all.

Post by **S13Sil-line** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

From what I understand kamin is using an RB20 transmission on a rb25 using the STMS kit. Its made for the rb25 motor/transmission. The Rb20 transmission is different.

Post by **Joe** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

lets get something straight

the RB20 transmission has the SAME bolt up problems as the RB25 when you use the r33 crossmember. shifter is 1.5 inches too far forward and the mount dosent line up.

AND those problems i speak of were NOT RELATED TO MY CAR. they were related to my friend i mentioned above. rb25 transmission and motor.

even if it did matter, the motor still dosent move the 1.5 inches back they promised. and that has nothing to do with the transmission.

Post by **PROJECTRB240SX** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

THOSE MOUNTS ARE PRETTY GHETTO, I COULD MAKE THOSE IN MY BACKYARD. KAMIN IS CORRECT THE MOTOR MOUNTS DETERMINE WHERE THE transmission SITS. ALTHOUGH THAT KIT IS DESIGNED FOR THE RB25 transmission IT SHOULD WORK WITH THE RB20 transmission.

Post by **S13Sil-line** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

I should have checked before I said something. I thought the Rb20 tanny had different mounts than the 25 transmission. I apologize. They say they are using the same kit for there car and I saw pics of it and it all looks legit. Could be wrong.

Post by **cvc9216** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

Well this is bad news. I guess I'll have to go with Mickinney mounts after all. Damn, maybe I shouldn't have just spent $2200 on wheels.

Post by **PROJECTRB240SX** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

ITS CROSSMEMBER DESIGN THAT IS DIFFERENT.

Post by **PROJECTRB240SX** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

WHY DO YOU WANT MOUNTS?YOU DON'T NEED THEM.

Post by **cvc9216** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

I don't want to have to cut the hood, or spacer the sway bar, or anything like that. I was considering making my own mounts, but I don't have time right now, I'd like to get it running soon. I was going to use stock mounts for now, then make my own later, but then I realized the driveshaft will be too long.

Post by **S13Sil-line** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

Ok. music....Clear things up for me. Name every problem that will occur if I dont use any mount kit. Please.

Post by **cvc9216** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

Ideally, I'd like mounts that use the stock RB crossmember and isolators, like STM's. That seems like the easiest and most failsafe method to me.

Post by **PROJECTRB240SX** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

HOOD SKELETON WILL HIT THE CAM COVERTHE transmission CROSSMEMBER WILL ONLY LINE UP WITH TWO BOLT HOLES (ON RB25 ONLY)DUMP PIPE WILL RUB STEERING ARM (FREE FIX: LOSSEN THE RACK BUSHING CLAMPS AND STEERING FLEX KNUCKLE AND ROTATE THE RACK FORWARD TILL THE STEERING ARM CLEARS)GEAR SHIFT WILL SIT FORWARD ANYWHERE FROM 1/2 TO 1 1/2 INCHES FORWARD (EXAMPLE MY RB20 SITS 1/2 INCH FORWARD W/ NO CLEARANCE ISSUES OR COMFORT COMPRIMISED)

Post by **PROJECTRB240SX** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

YOU NEED A NEW DRIVESHAFT NO MATTER WHAT WITH THE RB25.AND THE SWAY BAR HAS CLEARANCE JUST GET YOUR ENGINE RUNNING SMOOTHLY THEN INSTALL THE SWAY BAR (IT SHOULD HAVE NO ISSUES WHAT SO EVER)

Post by **Joe** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

sway bar does not clear with the r33 crossmember and a rb25 motor.

ask sean about his rb25+s13 on az240.

ive never heard of the hood hitting the upper timing belt cover, mine dosent. it his the blow off valve (only the upper section)

Post by **PROJECTRB240SX** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

I GOT KICKED OFF BY X3600. OHH SO THE RB25 DOESN'T CLEAR? I THOUGHT IT HAD THE SAME CLEARANCE ISSUES WITH THE RB20. SO IT SITS THAT FAR FORWARD?

Post by **kevy8up** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

s13sil.....lemme know when u gonna swap stuff....i might wanna come over and check this out...lol no seriously.

Post by **Joe** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

lol

and yes it dosent clear because of the r33 crossmember, moves the motor too far forward.

Post by **PROJECTRB240SX** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

ON THE RB20 AND 25 I LOOKED AT IT WAS THE FRONT COVER AND THE BOV SO THEY TOOK THE ENTIRE HOOD TRIANGLE OUT.

MY RB20 HITS BOTH WE EVEN DID THE BABY POWDER AND MASKING TAPE TRICK AND THEY WERE BOTH HITTING.

Post by **S13Sil-line** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

Well I know super tuner has spacers to lower the sway bar. I dont know. Who has done the s13/rb25 swap. I wanna talk to them. Im tired of hearing hearsay.

Post by **PROJECTRB240SX** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

DUDE WHO IS DOING HEARSAY? ALL OF US SPEAKING HAVE EXPERIENCE IN EVERYTHING WE SAID. HELL EVEN ASK CAMERON HE'LL TELL YOU OR EVEN READ HIS STICKY THREAD.

Post by **S13Sil-line** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

No no no. Im not saying you are. There is just a lot of people talking about the swap that dont even know anything about it. You know that. Thanks for your help. I heard if you dont use the kit, the bell housing will rub the underbody of the car.

Post by **PROJECTRB240SX** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

THAT WAS NOT AN ISSUE IN MY CASE OR THE RB25 INSTALL I LOOKED AT, AND IF IT RUBS GENTLY TAP THE TUNNEL UP FOR CLEARANCE.

Post by **PROJECTRB240SX** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

ITS OK, I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS AN ATTACK ON ME. I WILL HAVE TONS OF PICTURES SOON OF ALL MY INSTALL, WIRING, MISC CRAP, LEFTOVER FOR SALE STUFF, ETC.

Post by **S13Sil-line** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

Please do. What problems did you run into on the whole swap.

Post by **PROJECTRB240SX** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

I DID A RB20 INTO A 89 S13.

PROBLEMS I DELT WITH:

HOOD SKELETON (CUT TO FIX)STEERING ARM RUBING THE DUMP PIPE (EASY FIX)LACK OF IC PIPINGPOWER STEERING LINES (NEED CUSTOM LINES)

THATS IT. ON THIS ENTIRE INSTALL I'M IN LESS THAN $2500 INCLUDING CLIP, FAN, FILTERS, LINES, PLUGS, INTERCOOLER & PIPING, ETC.

Post by **S13Sil-line** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:50 pm

The Rb20 block is the same sizeas the 25 right?

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