Street Racing? Your Opinions please.....

[s14=pimpin']

So, I've posted this story on a couple of the local boards, and I'm getting alot of mixed reactions. I'll forward the link to the local board that I am recieving the most heat from, jsut wanted to get some opinions from the NICO people over here, you guys are generally alot more mature and level headed than the rejects up in my hood! Please excuse street names and stuff if you don't live in Toronto,really curious to see everyones stand on this subject -

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 2:13 pm

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------So I was leaving a club Friday night, dropping off my buddy infront of Joker so he could meet with his GF and go home with her. Just chilling behind a parked last gen lude, all of a sudden, the Lude owner approaches me and asks me to ensure no one slams their ride into his on the streets. I'm like, "WTF you talking bout man?" lude dude, "Didn't you see the accident right behind you?!?"

I was twisting an L with my stereo pumpin, so I didn't hear a thing, and I was only parked for 10 minutes max. Look over my shoulder to see 2 tow trucks parked in the second lane from the right. Oh, I'm at Richmond and Peter(?), right across from silver city downtown. So I jump outta my ride and proceed to the accident scene. I wish I hadn't.

So there is a totally souped up last gen RX-7, the car was beautiful. Gunmetal grey (my fave), lowered, exhaust, rims, body kit, sweet sweet machine, the nicest I've seen on the streets. The rear was backed right into a parked Cav on Richmond.

A bit further down, a hysterical girl was laying on the floor, one guy holding her telling her it will be OK. She is in obvious pain, bouncers and cops are surrounding the area, trying to contain the large crowd that has assembled at the scene. I couldn't get a closer look, and nor did I want to. I returned to my car, and bumped into lude dude again. "What happened man?" lude dude, "The rx-7 lined up with another car, I saw the whole thing. He lost traction, slammed into 2 parked cars on Richmond at 140km/hr and hit the pedestrian!" I asked what happened to the girl, how she got hit, but he didn't know. My buddy who was with me said he saw body parts lying on the ground.

So, one guy loses one of the greatest cars to EVER come out of Japan, as well as the $$$, sweat and joy of tuning his very sweet ride. One girl possibly lost her legs, all for what? A stupid little drag race for "Mad props" and to show off infront of a packed downtown street at 2a.m.. I'm sure he got all the ladies now (sarcasm). Hope the ****er rots in jail, and I'd wish the same to any stupid **** that races on the streets. Its just not worth it, hope you can all learn from this guys mistake, instead of learning the hard way, like he did.

have a nice day!

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sorry about the length people, drive safely!!

[jefftrexler]

Street racing has been going on for decades, so it is nothing new. Still that does not excuse the idiots that put other people's lives in danger. If you wanna kill yourself, drive out to the desert and drive off a cliff. The total lack of respect for other people's lives is hideously appauling. I know of some people who street race and at least they have the decency to do it on deserted roads in industrial areas that are far away from any residential areas and buildings. It is still considered illegal, but at least they are only gonna kill themselves if anything bad should happen. I for one am against street racing. Personally if I'm driving along and I see people street racing I am going to stop the race, take down license plates and call the authorities. As I said before, I am 100% against street racing.

[Cold_Zero]

I prefer to go to the track or drag strip to race. You don’t have to worry about tickets and lawsuits if you mess up.

[ninjak84]

There's a million horror stories from street racing....The fact is that our dad's did it, and if you're on this board, you've done it too. Street racing is one of those things you know is bad, but you can't help it sometimes. Street racing is exactly like smoking. It's bad, it kills, people condemn it, but a lot of people still do it...

[Mayhem_J30]

There's a million horror stories from street racing....The fact is that our dad's did it, and if you're on this board, you've done it too. Street racing is one of those things you know is bad, but you can't help it sometimes. Street racing is exactly like smoking. It's bad, it kills, people condemn it, but a lot of people still do it...

couldn't have said it better. but i'll preach anway. Keep it on the track!

[Stoneage_Turbo]

hope his insureance drops his *** , so he will have to pay for all the havoc hes reaked ...

Yup i used to street race every great once and awhile , then awhile back i had a run in where i had to put my car in a ditch so some punk would have enough room to get around a minivan without hitting it at 125mph . i quit that **** completely after that , and now after my crash i barely run the speedlimit ...

[ninjak84]

Hey Stoney, heres my best freinds Golf GTI VR6. It's the nicest one I've ever seen in my life$33,000 in aftermarket goodies, and an imported kit from Germany on it.His car is parked for the next 2 years (well, 1 year now) because his insurance went up to $17,000 a year for a racing ticket.

http://www.boomspeed.com/ninjak84/cbbscar.jpg

[Stoneage_Turbo]

wow , that thing is bad *** ......love the wheels ...

[APEXi240]

Streetracing is bad, but I've been guilty of it just like most others. I believe that if you do want to street race, it should be on an EMPTY street with absolutly no cars or people on it, that way if you do get into an accident its just you who will get hurt.

S14 that article is exactly like a bunch of occurances that happened by me. There was one spot that was run every single weekend. It got swamped with people, and there started to be more and more accidents. One weekend a bystander was killed when a car lost control. The VERY NEXT WEEKEND, two cars were racing and BOTH lost control and managed to hit the same parked car, and a bunch of bystanders, one kid lost BOTH of his legs.

I've seen numerous accidents when racing. I won't be street racing any more. It is definitly dangerous and not worth the trouble. Plus I'm not all that interested in drag anymore (although that is definitly beside the point.)

[MaineExport]

Just driving is dangerous enough, then add excessive speed and inexperienced drivers, and you've got a seriously deadly mix. I know what it's like to be young and THINK you know how to control your vehicle, and you feel indestructable. I lost four good friends within two years of graduating high school. All were motor vehicle accidents, and all were due to driver error and completely avoidable. Another friend killed a pedestrian that was crossing in a cross-walk, he just didn't see her in time to react. That incident alone took one life, and forever changed another. Street racing is for immature idiots that think they are living in a movie. Well, real life has a few more consequences. I am a hypocrite, as I have engauged in the idiocy a handful of times, but it was always out on empty roads with no houses or people around period. It was still stupid and I am lucky as hell nothing ever happened.

[TrueSlide]

Street racing, hmm I hold alot of mixed feelings about it. Done it, been caught, know the consequences. I hear my gfs dad talk about how they did it back in the day, about all the cars he has beaten, etc. etc. Then you are cruising down a road, its deserted, u get the red, you hearing a buzzing in the distance and its come to a low hum next to you, you look over and see its that guy you don't like that is always talking bad about your car, and he is sitting their gasing his car staring at you. What do you do? How many ppl would say they would not race the guy?

I do disagree with racing through public areas, that guy did get what he deserved and all of you around were able to witness the danger of it first hand when done in the wrong places. Yes, now the old racing has kinda swapped over to immature kids, who just recieved a license and think they are stuntmen.

A quick 1/4 mile run or even a 1/8 mile run is fun on the streets and even at the track. I personally enjoy the track more then streets, the track is where you really get the props. I have seen alot of retards race on the street, specially through highway traffic at speeds in 100+(which I consider that extremely dangerous, due to the population of the highway) which i consider dumb, but I have seen alot of good races from stoplights that did not last long on the streets 2.

I guess its all a matter of opinion, I think my post kinda leans on the way it should be, but unfortunly isnt, too many immature ppl out there. And bad things will always happen, in everything. If someone bad can happen it will happen.

[TrueSlide]

And you never posted a link so we could see what others thought.

[s14=pimpin']

yes yes trueslide, in due time.

thanks for everyones input, glad to see you are all reasonable, honest people. I've done a bit of racing, one cost me my first 240 (sorta, rear ended, but doing stupid ish all the same). Another time some mullet reject slammed their camaro into the side of my car (I know, you guys heard it a million times)!!!



anyway, I still would peel the rubber every now and then, but after that incident last week, I've totally changed my out look. Apex, that was written by me, on my experience last friday, 11/15/02. Its not an article, just clearing that up.

ok, so I know you guys missed me and my antics/drama (c'mon, just admit it!)



so here's the link, just please keep in mind, the site is called "Toronto Street Racing", alot of rice boys and newbs. You guys can see the **** I have to put up with my my hood now, and if you'd like to join the discussion, please do, I'm giving up on those idiots!

http://www.gtastreetracing.com...art=0

and check out the drift section, I actually found a few good peeps over there.

take it easy guys, and please drive cautiously/safely

[MasterMan]

yea why would u race in a downtown area.. thats just dumb.. if we race at all outside of the track we will dive out to this deserted area.. where there isnt anyone.. that guy should be away for a long time.. no reason for that..

[s14=pimpin']

did you check out the link I posted? Man, some serious ignorance (and you guys thought I was bad!!!)



yeah, that guy was a real idiot! Hopefully he sits in jail for a while, and never gets his license back. Laws are pretty messed up, up north here. He'll prolly get a slap on the wrist and a 6 month suspension! aaaaarrrrrggggh!!

Alot of shootings going on over here lately (like i gotta preach to you americanos about shootings). Anyway, 11 deaths in the past 4 weeks, that is a catastrophic number for the peaceful north, 2 of the shootings were about a 4 minute walk from my home, and I don't live in the projects or anything!

**sigh**

whats this world coming to? One of the shooters who is on the lamb right now, I went to high school with. Real trouble maker, and I think this sorta stuff will take priority over a car accident (as it should, but hopefully jerk off in the FD gets a long jail sentence).

I doubt it though.......

[TrueSlide]

Ya I just registered there earlier today, under the name NewbieHerb

some of these guys just don't see a danger in it, what morons!

[Othello]

A guy by me just got killed racing his Silver BMW. He was getting on the off ramp (which curves at the bottom) and just went straight, at about 130 MPH. His car broke through the guard rail, a fence, then flipped over and landed in the Grand River. This is pretty graphic, but authorities say his body is so mangled in the wreckage, that they are only pulling out pieces parts of his body. The guy was 18.

[s14=pimpin']

thanks for the back up dude, I thought you were a guy named mark from my local club.



damn, those guys are so freaking dense man, ****, iknow where they hang, about 10 minutes from my home. I'd love to rent a **** box and slam it right into their rice mobiles!!LOL

keep schooling them bro, DJ eclipse needs a fat kick to the teeth, BAD!!!

peace bro

[s14=pimpin']

sorry about your loss Othello. Share your story with the rice boys in toronto (follow the prior link). Damn, 130mph into a rail, OUCH! And so young too, its a shame brother, its a shame!!

[s14=pimpin']

damn tueslide, you're working those guys brother!!!

LOL, quitting time, going home now, check ya 2mora!! Enjoy the rice boys, you seem to be having a blast!!!

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha, I'm gonna sleep really good tonight!!!

LOL, man, you gotta see the smile on my face!!

[wingzero]

Man I'm glad someone put a post up about this topic. Just really makes ya think. 2 years ago, my Uncle's brother-in-law, who was only 16 was killed in a horrible accident. Empty road, he was in the car with his brother, they were racing their friends, both cars BMW 540s. They hit like 105mph, and some guy came out of nowhere, just on his way home. They hit him, he went into a coma, died a week later. He was supposed to be married 2 days after the accident. After helping the medics pull his body out of the car, struggling to cut through the seatbelt, and seeing his lifeless body and broken neck moving from side to side, I swore I would never speed again. Only like last weekend I was racing a CRX on the freeway. But this post has brought some horrible memories back and I'm totally gonna stay away from that ****. As for that FD, yeah I hope that guy rots too, even though a lot of us are guilty of street racing as well, just that most of us have been lucky until this point (thank God). Be careful guys.

[s14=pimpin']

Damn zero, sorry to rehash those memories, and sorry about your loss. Thats terrible, a real pity.

[skydragoness]

It's good to post threads like this, people need to be reminded.

I totally detest street-racing, there are many legal ways to have fun, be it autocrossing, drag-racing at the local track, or other track events.

Sure i'll rev someone, tease them, and make them think i'm going to race them, but i love my car, i don't feel like dying or killing anyone else. And i don't feel as though i have complete control over my car--that comes with real off-track experience.

It's just common sense, i don't see how anyone can be 'addicted' to street racing. Once you start driving like a normal person, you get used to it and its easier to resist gran-turismo wannabe's---autocrossing gave me the fix i needed. 'Nuff said.

but with all the deaths, tragedies, accidents and recklessness this kind of sh*t will continue...but hopefully getting the word out to fellow car enthusiasts and raising awareness about legal ways to have fun...maybe it will go down. But there will always be stupid people...unfortunately....

BTW, i totally agree with you maineimport!

[s14=pimpin']

well said sky, wish you'd join me up north trying to get that EXACT message across to a forum full of ricers! Just trying to make my 'hood a little safer, but damn they are ignorant! Perhaps they would listen to a cute girl better than myself?

and everyone always agrees with maine, he is the voice of reason here on NICO!!!

[skydragoness]

LOL, right maine is the voice of reason

maybe i'll help you out s14, i'm feeling generous and of good feeling lately

i'm registered on so many boards already...teehee

[MaineExport]

Sure i'll rev someone, tease them, and make them think i'm going to race them, but i love my car, i don't feel like dying or killing anyone else.

Yeah... but you lack the one thing that gets most of US in trouble..... testosterone!!!



BTW, i totally agree with you maineimport!

Yeah, sooner or later most people do! j/k

BTW... is that an Isuzu Impulse in your sig? Those cars are SICK!!! Lotus suspension and steering components!!!!

[skydragoness]

*high-fives maineimport* You DA man! The Impulse is sweet!Not many know about it, which makes it such a sleeper! (turbo, & awd too!)

Not really my dream dream car, it's a phase i'm going through right now.

yeah, the fact i lack testosterone may help me be level-headed, but seriously, you can always teach yourself to be calm.

[MaineExport]

*high-fives maineimport* You DA man! The Impulse is sweet!Not many know about it, which makes it such a sleeper!

Not really my dream dream car, it's a phase i'm going through right now.

yeah, the fact i lack testosterone may help me be level-headed, but seriously, you can always teach yourself to be calm.

I got to drive a black Impulse wagon many years ago. I worked at a hospital and one of the nurses owned one. I begged her for months to let me take it for a spin. Very snappy and it handled like a DREAM!

As for being level-headed, I feel it all boils down to owning responsibility for one's actions. When we grow up enough to actually accept the consequences (as well as rewards) of our behavior, then acting mature and responsible just naturally come along. Now, self-discipline is another story entirely. Being a responsible individual is one thing, having the discipline to do the right thing at your own expense is another. How old are you again?.... wish more were like you!

[reggiegsd]

Street racing has a long history in one form or another.

California street racing in the late '40s and early '50s led directly to the NHRA and drag racing as we know it today.

Road racing is California was a big boost to the growth of SCCA in the Fifties.

I grew up in the mountains of North Carolina. Guess what led to the beginings of NASCAR? Rum running, of all things!! Kids in the late Forties and early Fifties would build cars to run untaxed alcohol during the week and would then get together to see who was the fastest on Saturday night. Many of the best known old men of Nascar got their start this way.

For a while, the public even embraces the outlaw image. The current generation has a movie, my generation and the one before had songs (Dead Man's Curve, 409, Hot Rod Lincoln, bunches more).

The point of this is that street racing has been around since Henry Ford built 999 for Barney Oldfield. When the general public gets tired of the mayhem, the racers either quit or find a safer venue, like a track.

Just keep expressing your distaste and encourage them to move to a track.

[GreatSX]

Back when I lived in NY, we all use to go to an old airfield, it closed down in the 80's it was pretty sweet. I loved racing there. plus it was safer, than the street.