Stock? No Way!!

Post by **Silent Drifter** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

I recently went to the track an threw down a 15.5 in my stock S13 with a 174k miles on it, I think its pretty good for stock. Just excited so I felt I had to post.

Post by **sixxdeuce** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

that sounds really good for stock at that milage. You must have taken good care of it all those miles.

Website · Post by **lbrowne** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

Theres no way that can be possible is it?!?!?!

s13s (SOHC) are good for like mid to high 16s straight off the showroom floor I thought. Thats with a 5 speed....

Can somone else please come in a verify this?

Especially with that mileage! :oy:

EDIT: no wait, was that time for the 1/8?

Post by **Touchdown038** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

He's got a 93 so it's got the DOHC, but it still sounds pretty far-fetched to me. I thought that there was no way a stock 240 could break 16s.

Post by **Syntax360** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

isn't that almost a second faster then u should have been? i'm impressed :-D

Post by **Silent Drifter** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

my 60's were between 2.2 an 2.4's my 1/8ths were high 9's my trap speed was 88-90. All I had done was the bottom part of the stock air box was gone so the filter was exposed an I had my exhaust uncapped after the cat.

Post by **Sleeper s13** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

Thats pretty damn good. it is near unbelievable except for the fact that elevation has not beent taken into consideration. that and in my 92' 5 speed i ran a 15.7 @88 with a fart can and a k&n air filter. so like i said, if the elevation is right its definitely possible.

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

but even still, what were other times of different stock cars at the track, to atleast give us a comparison ,cause that would put a spec V at about 14.6 or so

Post by **D1SR240** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

Thats very impressive. How many rpm did you launch at?

Post by **redrocket** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

thats good times I ran a 15.7 with a drop in K&N filter and exhaust.

Unbolting your exaust from the cat back is about the same as my exhaust with no cat 2.5" pipe and a magnaflow muffler so your times are righ on track for and s13

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

i wouldnt say right on track, thats pretty damn impressive for as old as that car is, and the miles, and being completely stock, im very impressed, what is the elevation of that track?, i figured it couldnt be that high considering you live in florida

Post by **IneedMoney** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

i have a 91 with 15k on it and ran a 16.2 and with a 55 shot and new springs and shocks i ran a 15.1

Post by **Sleeper s13** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

So whats your point? is it that the mielage doenst mean s@#t or is it that not all cars or engines for that matter are just alike. Does everybody have the assumption that every car that rolls of the factory line excatly alike? When a manufacturer quotes a hp rating, that is an average. some have more some have less. When you get into cars like T/A's with a bang load of power the diference from one stock car to the next could be as much as 20hp on the dyno.

Website · Post by **lbrowne** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

Mileage - Schmileage whatever.

No not every car rolls off the line exactly the same, and yes there are sometimes factory freaks.

I still think thats awfully fast for an s13 regardless of being a DOHC. 15.5 is I think faster than what a Grand Am GT would pull and I know one of those would walk an s13...stock for stock. (with the 3400 engine, the later model ones)

I'd like to see some proof on it, if this is all true, I never would have thought a stock DOHC was that fast.

I know I'm still kinda new in this 240sx scene as far as owning them goes, but I know my 95 GTP (3.4 DOHC, wasn't supercharged back then) would put serious beatings on the fellas around town with the 240s

Do you have a timeslip?

If this is the case then props to the car, I've seriously under estimated its stock potential.

Post by **D-UNIT** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

Ummm.. Is cold air, no cat , borla cat back , Ignition , ecu ( just gets rid of the speed cut to me) still considered stock.

Post by **Silent Drifter** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

Ok I live in florida so elevation is like 20 feet above sea level hehe, it was probally about 70-80 degrees out it was pretty nice. I had my tire psi to 25, I launched at about 2800rpms. Also I dont have an LSD but it acts like an LSD off launches. For instance I can power brake it an get 2 lines goin down the road, but when I try drifting or doing donuts only one tire spins. Also my engine is in perfect shape, even for the miles it runs like new.

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

power brake??, u have an auto??!??!

Website · Post by **lbrowne** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

If you got an auto (like the other guy pointed out you said you power braked) I'm definitely going to raise the bs flag

regardless of being at sea level practically.

Not trying to flame but its getting less and less believable. Please say you at least have a 5 speed, even then I still have my doubts...sorry

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

most defintely, i dont want to call u a liar at all bro, but i am finding this VERY hard to believe without a witness or some kind of evidence

Post by **redrocket** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

lbrowne wrote:If you got an auto (like the other guy pointed out you said you power braked) I'm definitely going to raise the bs flag

since when can you not power brake an automatic RWD car

pay attention dippy power braking IMO is the same thing as doing a burn out holding down the brakes and the gas at the same time and guess what back tires spin and your sitting still not moving because your brakes hold ya

no if I am catching you correctly you are saying that he can't do that cause he has an auto then you are a friggin MORON

Post by **cnichols** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

I ran a 16.3 in my S14 automatic with bad launch, and my ****ty stock tires spinning through first and second. Not to mention an S14 is heavier....I think it's definitely possible. Whether he did it or not...I have no idea.

Post by **Silent Drifter** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

Thank you redrocket, yes you are a complete moron if you didnt know you can power brake a 5 speed. Believe what you want but if you wanna run me an ill prove to you I run a 15.5 I will. Well Im not stock no more I just got a exhaust system put on so I can get the same top end power without the obnoxious noise.

Post by **redrocket** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

Silent Drifter wrote:I can get the same top end power without the obnoxious noise.

not exactly because you unbolted from the cat you lost all back pressure from that point back all together

now you have an exhaust system so there is back pressure there just not as much so things will change a little

but I did pick up 3-4 tenths on the 1/4 with just changing my exhaust

Post by **Silent Drifter** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

yea I mean its alot better top end than the stock cat,resonator,premuffler,muffler. An its quiet for dailey driving which I like.

Website · Post by **lbrowne** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

redrocket: you caught me completely wrong, and before you start name calling how about you make sure you got it straight what you read?

If he has an automatic, I have a hard time believing his automatic, stock s13 ran a 15.5 in the 1/4 mile. Not anything to do with that you can't power brake in an automatic car.

Silent Drifter, can you prove like others said about your time? I've never seen anywhere on the net a 240sx similar to yours coming close to posting a time like you did in your s13. I'm just curious.

Redrocket, I won't resort to name calling and sarcasm as you, which instead you really should have made sure you read what you read correctly. Yes it could have been taken the wrong way, but you so far are the only one who took what I said incorrectly.

Post by **redrocket** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

excuse me for taking it the wrong way and I apologize to you....................

but I have said earlier with a k&n drop in filter and a custom exhaust 2.5" pipe no cat and a magnaflow muffler I ran a 15.7 and with that 15.7 I had horrible traction and was bouncing off the line.....................

He ran a 15.5 with a chopped air box and disconnecting the exhaust from the cat so exhaust came directly out of the cat and that is about the same if not more help then my exhaust

now with that said I have an s14 which weighs more then the s13 so how is it hard to believe he ran a 15.5 hell repo man in his old s13 coupe ran a 15.8 with a lot of extra weight in his car like tool box and I believe speaker boxes also in his trunk I'm not defending this guy but mainly the car but some proof would be nice and proof of my 15.7 run ask former_240_s14 cause he was running beside me on the track when I ran the 15.7 plus cnichols, 95silviase, and fred where all there also

Website · Post by **lbrowne** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

Apology accepted, and respected.

I've never seen anywhere with a stock s13 gettin below a 16 sec 1/4 mile stock.

Granted he did seem to have just a couple of things done that may have helped.

If its common for these cars to pul these times that are in good running order, I stand corrected. I jsut never pictured these to be faster than 16 secs in stock trim.

If thats the case I'll be opening up my targets for red light racing once my ghetto 240 is done

Post by **Silent Drifter** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

It was at club 1320 in brandenton, they only hand out slips if you ask for them, I asked for mine on my 15.5 run but the guy who was printing them out wasnt there. I swear to god that im not liein the only slip I have is for a 15.8 run, I have friends who were with me who saw me run the 15.5 an will back me up. Also if you live in the tampa/sarasota area ill probally be back at the track friday night an even with my new KN filter an exhaust I should run better than the 15.5 an ill prove it to you if your there. I know 15.5 sounds ridiculous, hell i thought my best would be a 15.9 but my first run was 15.7. Thats all I can say really, wish I had the slip so you guys had definate proof.

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

i for one believe you, i didnt think you were lying, but i just wanted to see it, i'd frame that Biotch if I were you, well if u had it

Website · Post by **lbrowne** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:57 am

I'll take your word since you're so dedicated to coming back and being sincere. Since it seems others have claimed close to the same times with a car similar to yours I guess its possible, but I never would have imagined it possible with a stock s13.

Like the other fella said, I'd frame the slip if I had one for it in that car.

Stock? No Way!!

Stock? No Way!!

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