Stillen Sway bars

[desertdragon]

Does anyone know the latest status on the Stillen Sway bars?It is my understanding that they were very close to launch it back in Feb 08.

[dldjros69]

what do they do and how much do they cost

[adidas2go]

As soon as I find out ill let you guys know. Kyle and Josh are away at the moment.

[desertdragon]

As soon as I find out ill let you guys know. Kyle and Josh are away at the moment.

Gracias hermano.

[Team STILLEN]

Production is just about complete for the STILLEN Altima Coupe Rear Sway Bars, and could be shipping as soon as next week.

At the current moment, a front sway bar has not been done, as it may not make sense for us to do, as my understanding the expense of removal and installation of the bar may not warrant the performance increase. We are looking at all angles before kicking that to production.

(This is another angle of R&D that is always considered, just because we can make a product, if you're left with the task of fronting the bill on something that might take 5-7 shop hours @ $75/hr to install, that just became an additional $500+ increase over the price to install.)

For the rear however, this will offer a huge increase in handling, as these will be larger stiffer bars, and will reduce body roll, etc.. This will add the missing "link" to your suspension, and should be a no-brainer for anyone wanting a stable, better handling vehicle.

Pictures and pricing to come shortly.. exciting stuff!

(and.. we have a Sedan that's on premise, we'll be looking at the sway bars to determine if this will bolt up, or if any changes need to be made..)
Modified by Josh@Stillen at 7:42 AM 3/20/2008

[LongBeachCoupe]

awesome... Any IDEA on price? $2? $300?

[NissNEZ08]

I was thinking beefier sways and perhaps even some engine and cabin strut bars would be absolutely bitchin on this car. Hmmmm?

[dldjros69]

this will offer a huge increase in handling

Really???

[desertdragon]

Production is just about complete for the STILLEN Altima Coupe Rear Sway Bars, and could be shipping as soon as next week.

At the current moment, a front sway bar has not been done, as it may not make sense for us to do, as my understanding the expense of removal and installation of the bar may not warrant the performance increase. We are looking at all angles before kicking that to production.

(This is another angle of R&D that is always considered, just because we can make a product, if you're left with the task of fronting the bill on something that might take 5-7 shop hours @ $75/hr to install, that just became an additional $500+ increase over the price to install.)

For the rear however, this will offer a huge increase in handling, as the car does not come with a bar from the factory. This will add the missing "link" to your suspension, and should be a no-brainer for anyone wanting a stable, better handling vehicle.

Pictures and pricing to come shortly.. exciting stuff!

(and.. we have a Sedan that's on premise, we'll be looking at the sway bars to determine if this will bolt up, or if any changes need to be made..)

I know it's a pain in the @$$ to remove and install the front sway bar. But I am still very interested. I had Nismo sway bar set for my 05 3.5SE Altima, the shop charged me $250 to install both, not too bad in my opinion.

Are you sure that the 3.5 SE coupe doesn't come with the rear sway bar?I am almost 99% sure that I have seen a very thin rear sway bar in my car.

[SHIFT_COUPE]

Great news Josh! Been looking forward to this part for a while now.

[LongBeachCoupe]

PLEASE TELL ME THEY WILL BE ADJUSTABLE!

Really???

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question432.htm for dummies...

Thats what a sway bar is designed to do... Anti roll bars provide 2 main functions:

The first is the reduction of body lean. The reduction of body lean is dependent on the total roll stiffness of the vehicle. Increasing the total roll stiffness of a vehicle does not change the steady state total load (weight) transfer from the inside wheels to the outside wheels, it only reduces body lean. The total lateral load transfer is determined by the CG height and track width.

The other function of anti roll bars is to tune the high g / limit understeer behavior of the vehicle. The limit understeer behavior is tuned by changing the proportion of the total roll stiffness that comes from the front and rear axles. Increasing the proportion of roll stiffness at the front will increase the proportion of the total weight transfer that the front axle reacts and decrease the proportion that the rear axle reacts. This will cause the outer front wheel to run at a higher slip angle, and the outer rear wheel to run at a lower slip angle, which is an understeer effect. Increasing the proportion of roll stiffness at the rear axle will have the opposite effect and decrease understeer.

Essentially imagine a bar going across the bottom of the car under the back tires... it holds the car together more... think of when you are in a convertible.. know that "stretch" of the car... well this corrects that..

What i am wondering is the effect of the unsprung weight i have bc of the wheel weight, and what the camber flux will be and if it will cause rubbing on my setup...

[Team STILLEN]

I know it's a pain in the @$$ to remove and install the front sway bar. But I am still very interested. I had Nismo sway bar set for my 05 3.5SE Altima, the shop charged me $250 to install both, not too bad in my opinion.

Are you sure that the 3.5 SE coupe doesn't come with the rear sway bar?I am almost 99% sure that I have seen a very thin rear sway bar in my car.

I'm sorry.. I lost the 2.5L (which is what I believe I've heard, our 2.5L will be back tomorrow, I'll verify) on that. Yes the 3.5L does have a tiny rear bar, this will replace that, and will be stiffer, and is a nice improvement.

I'm not saying the front bar is not coming, just not being released alongside the rear bar next week.

[LongBeachCoupe]

2.5 and 3.5 versions? adjustable?

[desertdragon]

I'm sorry.. I lost the 2.5L (which is what I believe I've heard, our 2.5L will be back tomorrow, I'll verify) on that. Yes the 3.5L does have a tiny rear bar, this will replace that, and will be stiffer, and is a nice improvement.

I'm not saying the front bar is not coming, just not being released alongside the rear bar next week.

Josh, thank you for the clarification. More questions:Is the RS bar hollow or solid? what diameter will it have? Will it be for both 2.5L and 3.5L? Any plan for group buy?

Sorry for all the questions.

[SHIFT_COUPE]

haha poor Josh. The boys here just keep inundating him with the need for moooooore for their rides

[EzeebMOS3]

Sounds great im in! group buy??

[LongBeachCoupe]

haha poor Josh. The boys here just keep inundating him with the need for moooooore for their rides

i love josh... hes the gossip line... the week before things roll out he cant help himself and he gives us a peek.... he opened the can of worms... no going back now lol

[SHIFT_COUPE]

oh and what a big can of worms it is!

[Team STILLEN]

LOL.. we try to keep wraps on stuff until we're ready to ship, so we're not giving false hope, or in some cases aggressive demand! ha!

Actually this is rolling right on schedule, someone brought it up, so I thought I would make mention that we're almost there.

I will definitely post detailed specs, including pictures, and technical specifications on stiffness, etc. I just don't have all of that info right now.. but wanted to make sure you guys knew it was right around the corner.

Love the interest guys, we've been having a lot of fun with this Altima, and there is no plans on stopping just yet..

[kanejuice]

[D-Roll]

Sweet deal! I cant say that a thicker RSB will benefit me in autocrossing Cant wait for this to come out.

[Team STILLEN]

I'm sorry.. I lost the 2.5L (which is what I believe I've heard, our 2.5L will be back tomorrow, I'll verify) on that. Yes the 3.5L does have a tiny rear bar, this will replace that, and will be stiffer, and is a nice improvement.

I'm not saying the front bar is not coming, just not being released alongside the rear bar next week.

To clarify.. both the 2.5L and 3.5L Coupe & Sedan do have front and rear sway bars, my information was incorrect based upon a pre-production car.. my apologies.

The new STILLEN Rear Sway Bar is a bolt-on replacement, and will provide additional stiffness necessary to reduce body roll and improve the handling..

Sorry for the confusion.. sometimes when you get pre-production vehicles to play with, they aren't always what's delivered to showrooms..

[Team STILLEN]

Here are some technical specifications of the OEM vs. STILLEN Rear Sway Bar...

2008 Altima Coupe

OEM Rear Sway Bar0.730" Thick - Hollow Bar - 1/8" Wall280 lbs. @ 1" Travel580 lbs. @ 2" Travel

STILLEN Rear Sway Bar0.750" Thick - Solid Bar320 lbs. @ 1" Travel = 14.3% Stiffer700 lbs. @ 2" Travel = 20.7% Stiffer

So basically when loaded, the STILLEN rear bar is 20% stiffer than OEM.

[LongBeachCoupe]

is that the 3.5 specs or 2.5?

[stsxcrle]

[Team STILLEN]

Good question.. I'm not certain that the 2.5L bar is different from the 3.5L, but this was designed on the 3.5L, so those specs (if different) would be for the 3.5L.

They look the same, but I can't answer that definitively. The easiest way (without yanking the bar and doing the measurements) would be to verify the part number for the 2.5L & 3.5L with a dealership.

[stsxcrle]

The 3.5 is supposed to have stiffer rear sway bars to my understanding.

Josh, can you confirm that it would be the same stiffness/diameter for the 2.5? If so that would mean more than a 20% increase for the 2.5 which would be just great imo.

[LongBeachCoupe]

he doesnt know yet... if you can confirm that the 2.5 is different from the 3.5 then yes they will be different.

[desertdragon]

he doesnt know yet... if you can confirm that the 2.5 is different from the 3.5 then yes they will be different.

I am not sure. But I would assume that they should be different.

[LongBeachCoupe]

originally i knew the 3.5 had them... i thought they werent in the 2.5 but idk