Those pics are of a VE from a Primera.
I had a VET in the shop once. It does use a longitudinal transmission. (Sorry guys I know).
I've often dreamed about doing the VET in one of my B series cars, but never had the patience.
The VET varies turbo pressure along with all the nifty Valve and Ignition stuff too. What makes the VET so difficult is that the Neo-VVL uses a 3 dimensional map unlike the 2 dimensional map in the Primera NeoVVL. The primera uses RPM and Throttle position to determine lift, valve timing, and ignition timing. The VET adds in the 3rd dimension of enertial load. The VET is the worlds 1st "load-biased engine". There are pickups in the tranny that post signal to the ECU.
Using the X-Trail tranny is pretty much a necessity. I'm sure a FWD SR20VET hybrid could be done, but you are literally talking five digit numbers when it comes to the $.
Engine alone costs vary from $7-12k. (they only make a few hundred a year worldwide)
SR20VET? Has it been done?
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NISMOingen wrote:Those pics are of a VE from a Primera.
I had a VET in the shop once. It does use a longitudinal transmission. (Sorry guys I know).
I've often dreamed about doing the VET in one of my B series cars, but never had the patience.
The VET varies turbo pressure along with all the nifty Valve and Ignition stuff too. What makes the VET so difficult is that the Neo-VVL uses a 3 dimensional map unlike the 2 dimensional map in the Primera NeoVVL. The primera uses RPM and Throttle position to determine lift, valve timing, and ignition timing. The VET adds in the 3rd dimension of enertial load. The VET is the worlds 1st "load-biased engine". There are pickups in the tranny that post signal to the ECU.
Using the X-Trail tranny is pretty much a necessity. I'm sure a FWD SR20VET hybrid could be done, but you are literally talking five digit numbers when it comes to the $.
Engine alone costs vary from $7-12k. (they only make a few hundred a year worldwide)
UM.......the Xtrail uses a transversly mounted SR20VET. Don't know what you are talking about. There's a pic of it on Nissan's website! http://www.nissan.co.jp/X-TRAI....html
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Oh, and just incase it is unclear in those pictures, here is more documentation backing up the fact that the Xtrail is either FWD or AWD depending on trim, which would mean transverly mounted engine (unless they did some weird Saab engineering, but I doubt it). http://www.nissan-global.com/E....html
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I suppose I could be incorrect, however there is nothing I can find in either of those websites that shows I am.
You are correct the alternate in FWD suggests a transversly mounted engine. Which, by inductive logic, one could reasonably expect all models to use the same.
Heres what I do know for certain. In the spring of last year I had a factory turbo-charged NeoVVL engine in the shop mounted to a factory longitudinal transmission. I know they were mated from the factory because we had to break the "corktar" seal when we separated the tranny.
God I do hope the SR20VET uses a transaxle. That makes the world a whole lot happier place.
You are correct the alternate in FWD suggests a transversly mounted engine. Which, by inductive logic, one could reasonably expect all models to use the same.
Heres what I do know for certain. In the spring of last year I had a factory turbo-charged NeoVVL engine in the shop mounted to a factory longitudinal transmission. I know they were mated from the factory because we had to break the "corktar" seal when we separated the tranny.
God I do hope the SR20VET uses a transaxle. That makes the world a whole lot happier place.
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NISMOingen wrote:I suppose I could be incorrect, however there is nothing I can find in either of those websites that shows I am.
You are correct the alternate in FWD suggests a transversly mounted engine. Which, by inductive logic, one could reasonably expect all models to use the same.
Heres what I do know for certain. In the spring of last year I had a factory turbo-charged NeoVVL engine in the shop mounted to a factory longitudinal transmission. I know they were mated from the factory because we had to break the "corktar" seal when we separated the tranny.
God I do hope the SR20VET uses a transaxle. That makes the world a whole lot happier place.
Factory SR20VET?? The SR20VET wasn't even out on the market until 2001.
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I've never heard of anyone doing a VET swap, but I'd love to see it. The only think I could think of if you wanted, is you could get a sr20ve and do a custom turbo setup, get lower compression pistons and the VET cams. Like this guy (http://www.gonzonx.com/) did with his NX.
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