sr20det oil pan what do you guys think?

[david200095367]

I ran across this on ebay. What do you guys think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW

[Emperor_Tha]

it looks good. Hopefully there is no problem with the fitment. Only major problem I see is the metal being porous. just spray hi temp clear coat inthe inside and u will be ok.

[codyace]

Greddy makes a reall nice one, that is known not to leak or have issues

But if you trust a no name company, 80 dollar oil pan, to keep your car running...it's all good!

[Slipstream]

I say buy, inspect it, and run it. Not every part off of ebay is gonna break the first ten minutes you own it. If feeling sketchy, contact the comany by phone and inquire about the product, warranty, and how it is made. They may be a small or unknown company, but have skilled welders and trying to get off the ground.

[IanS]

Greddy makes a reall nice one, that is known not to leak or have issues

But if you trust a no name company, 80 dollar oil pan, to keep your car running...it's all good!

Do you think Greddy was always a world renown parts company, or do you think that at one point, it might have just been three guys in a garage somewhere? Greddy does make a nice oil pan, but it is made of aluminum, the large dents in my factory oil pan tell me two things.

1: Me + Aluminum oil pans = bad juju.2: For me a skid plate might not be a bad idea.

I think its high time someone other than Tomei made an oversized steel oil pan.

If someone has the skills, equipment, and time, to build something like that, then they deserve some attention. Whether it can stand up to our abuses is up to those who buy it.

OP, I think you should buy it, I personally would choose to support the little guy.
Modified by FlatBlackIan at 10:58 PM 5/15/2008

[codyace]

1: Me + Aluminum oil pans = bad juju.

Any experience damaging them? Any exampels cracking them?

I have personally watched a friend lifting a motor out have a cherry picker fail, and watch the entire engine fall to the ground on the pan. Didn't even bother it. No chips, no cracks (he even had it fluxed!)...still on car a year later.

On my car, I went flying off track at near 100 mph (going off at pocono is equal to offroading a truck), bashed my lip off the car, bounced off holes/bumps multiple times (dirt was everywhere, and the cross member became a scraper haha). Pan was obviously bouncing off the ground.

Didn't loose a drop of oil, no cracks, no worries. Has held oil now in it for 8 months with no issue.

No offense, but those two experiences to me are PROOF enough of its' strength. 9/10 times, that lower cross member is going to catch the bump first as it sits 1/2 inch lower than the pan.

2: For me a skid plate might not be a bad idea. /quote]

I like this idea too, but more for a total under panel structure, not so much stength. YOu'd need a really thick peice of steel or diamond plate (not those chinesy things on ebay) to work.

OP, I think you should buy it, I personally would choose to support the little guy.

My qualms with the pan:

-Who knows of the pickup tube is low/high enough-No swinging trap doors? That will undoubtedly trap oil in the outer edges-Who knows how strong it is? Could go wither way.

100 shipped for a no name, or Greddy.

To me, I've got to much money in the engine to not go with the logical choice. Coming from the FWD world, where aftermarket oil pans are not avilable or super pricey, we have it pretty good with Greddy Pans.

[david200095367]

This one looks like a tomei copy and is made of steel. The greddy is made of aluminum and pore casting. But this one is steel could it really be that bad?

[david200095367]

My qualms with the pan:

-Who knows of the pickup tube is low/high enough-No swinging trap doors? That will undoubtedly trap oil in the outer edges-Who knows how strong it is? Could go wither way.

The ebay pan also has swinging trap doors. It almost identical to the tomei.

[codyace]

This one looks like a tomei copy and is made of steel. The greddy is made of aluminum and pore casting. But this one is steel could it really be that bad?

Thin steel and bad welds < poor casting

Have yuo ever had a Greddy panin your hand? IMO Greddy castings are of the best sand castings I've ever seen in the market, both domestic and import.

I've also had a Freddy copy pan, and refused to install it on a car. The trap doors didn't line up, and I could scrap casting bumps off inside the pan with my hand.

Again, not my car.

[codyace]

FWIW: Come to think about it, most big trucks we work on are ALL cast aluminum pans. They go a million miles without worry.

[david200095367]

Contacted the seller and he says the pans are made in china. Cody i never said i was going to buy one. I was just trying to inform nico members on whats out there. It seems like are the ppl we bought one are happy with them though. I dont I might just get a greddy one later, dont really need a pan right now.

[inkslingers13]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW

this is your best bet, it a knock off greddy. swinging hinges to. looks like some nice castings to. if not sand them down. i bought the FREDDY intake mani for my car and there is not a FREAKIBG diff from my friends greddy. looks exactly the same. so theres my take. and good luck

[codyace]

this is your best bet, it a knock off greddy. swinging hinges to. looks like some nice castings to. if not sand them down. i bought the FREDDY intake mani for my car and there is not a FREAKIBG diff from my friends greddy. looks exactly the same. so theres my take. and good luck

The Freddy pans leak.

Read again: Freddy pans leak

Read again: those fancy swinging doors they come with, don't line up, and are like door hinges

Read again: Freddy sucks

PS: I have a Freddy manifold sitting at my houes RIGHT NOW and I'ev got a greddy on the car. While the Freddy may work for the intake, you can be rest assured it's quality IS NOT ANYWHERE near that of the greddy plenum. Upon looking at it, i ran my fingers as far as I could on the inside and removed most of the bumps by hand. Granted that aluminum could/should isntantly burn up in the combustion process, but it's nothign I'd want to risk! I went ahead and de burred the entire manifold for af riend, and retapped some of the holes for the IACV and vacuum ports as they were full of other casting marks.

Maybe I'm anal, but it's comments like that, that make me want to remove mine, just to show everyone that they are not the same.

[codyace]

Contacted the seller and he says the pans are made in china. Cody i never said i was going to buy one. I was just trying to inform nico members on whats out there. It seems like are the ppl we bought one are happy with them though. I dont I might just get a greddy one later, dont really need a pan right now.

The point is, posting ebay junk is just posting ebay junk. Any monkey could have realized that for 80 dollars, it wasn't hand made in the good ole USA.

I dunno, again, maybe my d!ck just stems from the fact that I don't ever go to ebay for anything this side of parts cars and cheap computer chargers/phone chargers

[david200095367]

The point is, posting ebay junk is just posting ebay junk. Any monkey could have realized that for 80 dollars, it wasn't hand made in the good ole USA.

Theres no need for bashing. Just point what you think of the pan and thats all. The reason were all here is to help one another and to find out more info. And really theres always a possibilty it could have been made in the good ole USA.

also it seems like the more power you push the more cocky you get!

[inkslingers13]

The point is, posting ebay junk is just posting ebay junk. Any monkey could have realized that for 80 dollars, it wasn't hand made in the good ole USA.

I dunno, again, maybe my d!ck just stems from the fact that I don't ever go to ebay for anything this side of parts cars and cheap computer chargers/phone chargers

wow man, all you do is pick fights. every thread i read that you have posted is bullsh*t comments or some sorda bashing. chill out, 2 people i know have the FREDDY pan and it worked just fine. if it didn't then i wouldn't have suggested it to anyone. so maybe you should keep you stupid a$$ comments to yourself. and like i said the freddy and greddy are almost the same. of course theres sh*ty casting on the knock offs and off course your going to have to clean it up a bit. but id rather do that then drop 600$ on a GREDDY. im anti greddy myself cuz its overpriced nonsense...

[inkslingers13]

Theres no need for bashing. Just point what you think of the pan and thats all. The reason were all here is to help one another and to find out more info. And really theres always a possibilty it could have been made in the good ole USA.

also it seems like the more power you push the more cocky you get!

agreed, more power for some people =d!ck head

[Emperor_Tha]

so how does the flap work? does it stay open all the time when there is oil?

i say get it....then let us know how it's holding up

[david200095367]

so how does the flap work? does it stay open all the time when there is oil?

i say get it....then let us know how it's holding up

i think the flap opens when theres not enough oil in the center. once it has oil in the center between the flaps it stays closed because the oil is holding it shut. I dont think i need a pan right now. I think im going to buy a meth kit first.

[codyace]

Theres no need for bashing. Just point what you think of the pan and thats all. The reason were all here is to help one another and to find out more info. And really theres always a possibilty it could have been made in the good ole USA.

Have you gotten any work done by a fabricator? Ever been to a mechanic?

Whats an hour of labor cost? 60 bucks low ened, 100 high end?

Then factor in materials (both for pan and for the welding rod), and the flange...

Trust me, I work in the automotive/truck industry (Ace Trucking, 50 years strong), and know what it takes to make quality parts.

wow man, all you do is pick fights. every thread i read that you have posted is bullsh*t comments or some sorda bashing. chill out, 2 people i know have the FREDDY pan and it worked just fine. if it didn't then i wouldn't have suggested it to anyone.

Take 3 minutes to search the forums (any of the big 240 ones) and you'll see the countless failures and issues. Nice, 2 of your friensd had no issue. What about the other 20 that have? The good versus bad ratio on the pans is not reassuring.

Yo uspend 2000 bucks on a motor, another 2000 in mic parts, only to spend 100 bucks on an oil pan? Am I making sense when I look at situations that way? You don't have sex with 15 cent truck stop condoms do you?

so maybe you should keep you stupid a$$ comments to yourself. and like i said the freddy and greddy are almost the same. of course theres sh*ty casting on the knock offs and off course your going to have to clean it up a bit. but id rather do that then drop 600$ on a GREDDY. im anti greddy myself cuz its overpriced nonsense...

You're anti greedy because you're broke and trying to modify a car. I've been there, done that, and learned the hard way.

Casting marks are one thing, but trusting it on my engine is another. If you don't like my REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE and REAL LIFE STORIES then just continue reading Super Street and believing everything you read on the forums.

In the grand scheme, I really could care less if you yahoots put 300 oil pans on your stock engines, I really couldn't. I'm just trying to look out for you guys, as I've been in situations where 'oh ****, my turbo car broke and I have no backup ride' or 'oh **** my turbo car broke 100 miles from home, how am I fixing it'.

Cheap Fast Reliable

If it's cheap and fasat, it's not reliableIf its' cheap and reliable, it's not fast

If it's FAST and RELIABLE it's NOT CHEAP

EDIT:

No offense, but if you guys don't know how these louvered/doored pans work, and then have the balls to criticize me for not liking the cheap ones, I do suggest you all take a strong look in the mirror and ask yourself 'why am I just putting parts on'.

[0wn3r]

Have you gotten any work done by a fabricator? Ever been to a mechanic?

haha CODY! booyah..

When I was googling about the amount of oil the SR20DET actually takes (still really have no idea so if someone knows please tell me!!), I saw a review saying that the Greddy aluminum was passed on due to Tomei's strength.

Cody, I think you even mentioned you didn't have the a/c brackets made out of aluminum because they can bust...maybe that's just due to size though.

[inkslingers13]

im not in anyway broke cody, a=i hate greddy cuz ( i will say it again ) its over priced nonsense. dont assume im broke when you have no flippin idea we all get it, your Mr know it all and your cool and we all suck? am i close? shut your fu*king mouth with assuming about people, i say FU*K the oil pans. i dont need one. stock is holding up just fine. im not a fan of getting SIDEWAYS so i really dont care for them. but you keep on truckin cody!

[0wn3r]

im not a fan of getting SIDEWAYS so i really dont care for them.

you might want to remove "tein SUPER DRIFT" out of your avatar then

[inkslingers13]

you might want to remove "tein SUPER DRIFT" out of your avatar then

WHY??? why the hell would i do that? i have a brand new pair of them on my car? id say its around the best set of coilovers you can put on a s13

http://www.optionimports.com/tesudrcoki24.html

so no i wont

[Koshin]

Have you gotten any work done by a fabricator? Ever been to a mechanic?

Whats an hour of labor cost? 60 bucks low ened, 100 high end?

Then factor in materials (both for pan and for the welding rod), and the flange...

Trust me, I work in the automotive/truck industry (Ace Trucking, 50 years strong), and know what it takes to make quality parts.

Take 3 minutes to search the forums (any of the big 240 ones) and you'll see the countless failures and issues. Nice, 2 of your friensd had no issue. What about the other 20 that have? The good versus bad ratio on the pans is not reassuring.

Yo uspend 2000 bucks on a motor, another 2000 in mic parts, only to spend 100 bucks on an oil pan? Am I making sense when I look at situations that way? You don't have sex with 15 cent truck stop condoms do you?

You're anti greedy because you're broke and trying to modify a car. I've been there, done that, and learned the hard way.

Casting marks are one thing, but trusting it on my engine is another. If you don't like my REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE and REAL LIFE STORIES then just continue reading Super Street and believing everything you read on the forums.

In the grand scheme, I really could care less if you yahoots put 300 oil pans on your stock engines, I really couldn't. I'm just trying to look out for you guys, as I've been in situations where 'oh ****, my turbo car broke and I have no backup ride' or 'oh **** my turbo car broke 100 miles from home, how am I fixing it'.

Cheap Fast Reliable

If it's cheap and fasat, it's not reliableIf its' cheap and reliable, it's not fast

If it's FAST and RELIABLE it's NOT CHEAP

No offense, but if you guys don't know how these louvered/doored pans work, and then have the balls to criticize me for not liking the cheap ones, I do suggest you all take a strong look in the mirror and ask yourself 'why am I just putting parts on'.

Codyace is correct in every way possible. The castings on the ebay stuff are $%itty. They will only look like the Greddy or Tomei pan to someone who doesnt know what they are looking at. I have personally seen these things go to ****. they crack over time as well. I'm not saying that some of them dont hold up. I would never put one on my car. Spring for the greddy pan. I got mine for 280 shipped....

On second thought, what the F^&* does it matter, oil is important anyway

[Slipstream]

That oil pan doesn't look cast at all. It's sheet metal that's been welded. As far as thickness, how thick is a stock sr pan? Plus, why put trust in a $90 fabbed oil pan, when you can spend, wait for this...........$90 for a stock sr oil pan?

[Koshin]

That oil pan doesn't look cast at all. It's sheet metal that's been welded. As far as thickness, how thick is a stock sr pan? Plus, why put trust in a $90 fabbed oil pan, when you can spend, wait for this...........$90 for a stock sr oil pan?

I didnt even look at the pan, I assumed it was one of the crappy cast ones

[Slipstream]

Yeah, I tought that's what it would've been. Welds you can check, and even pressurize it. Mount a peice of plexiglass to it with rtv, nipple for a pump. Even a small fish tank one will do, submerge and look for bubbles. As for the traps, check their movement by hand. It might be crap, might be a good product.

[codyace]

The issue slipstream, is that for 80 bucks shipped you are not GETTING that amount of quality control and concern that you are talking. (We actually use a red spray die solution on bulkheads of trailers to ensure proper weld)

I can't say I'm a master welder by any stretch, but i've welded in plenty of floors/crossmembers/parts on trucks to know what it takes to work.

Cody, I think you even mentioned you didn't have the a/c brackets made out of aluminum because they can bust...maybe that's just due to size though.

The aluminum brackets may have worked, but at the weight of the compressor, and at how thin it got in parts, the slight weight savings was not worth the risk. You also fight crossthreading and the sort...I had to prepare for the worst sceneario possible, so I went with the steel. I love machined aluminum as much as anyone, but it just wasn't worth my name and having someone get hurt over it ya know? Maybe I'm to much of a scardy cat, as ebay has no isssue selling junk crap to people....

im not in anyway broke cody, a=i hate greddy cuz ( i will say it again ) its over priced nonsense. dont assume im broke when you have no flippin idea we all get it, your Mr know it all and your cool and we all suck? am i close? shut your fu*king mouth with assuming about people, i say FU*K the oil pans. i dont need one. stock is holding up just fine. im not a fan of getting SIDEWAYS so i really dont care for them. but you keep on truckin cody!

Don't get mad, get glad. I'd think someone that isn't broke, would then value his money/investment more (aka: his engine and car) and not run with a chinsey oil pan.

You can hate import prices all you want...they will never be the same prices as domestic stuff simply due to a huge demand difference. No reason to hate greddy's prices if their stuff doesn't break.

[inkslingers13]

im not freaking buying the stupid a$$ oil pan!!!! do you not get it??? i dont freaking need one right now!! and i haven't been shy to drop any money in my motor! i rebuilt it top to bottom, every seal and gasket is brand new and i replaced every bolt/nut with aether stainless or a high grade bolt. so piss off