I know this is my first post, but i more of a person who uses these sites for research purposes. I am in the process of getting a S14 95/96 with a stock sr20 and building it. I have talked to others, like Baltgrounds Engineering of Georgia, and gotten advice from them, but i like to hear it from many others as well. Generally my question is though, is from my list what am i looking at realiably wise, power wise and general critiszm(sp).
Buddy Club Stage 2 ExhaustHKS 262/272 Intake and Exhaust CamsBC Rocker Arm StoppersGreddy Intake ManifoldNismo 740cc InjectorsCustom IntercoolerBrian Crower Springs and Retainer KitTomei 1.2mm HeadgasketKoyo Race RadiatorTomei 1.5 way LSD DiffTomei ALum DriveshaftNismo Fuel Regulatorz32 MAFNismo Low Temp Termastat
This is my list of what i will be doign so far. I am looking at putting a total of 5grand into drivetrain and motor alone. I have looked at turbo manifold and turbo itself. My friend who is doing the custom intercooler can also get deals on turbos through his shop. But i dont now what turbo to go with and what manifold to go with. Also i havent really looked into engine management and fuel management or anything along those lines. My plan was to have Batlgrounds to dyno tune it after everything is on.
My goal is around 330-350rwhp on low DD boost, and around 400rwhp on high boost(taking it to the track time).
I know that i am not putting suspenion and such but i already have that planned out, and everything else, my knowledge just falls short on the performance and drivetrain. I use to have a all motor SR20DE B15 Sentra, but when it comes to the s14 sr20det rwd motor i am at a lost for knowledge. Just seeing if people who have gone this path before can fix my lsit fill me in on blanks that i might have missed, adn such.
Thanks
Modified by TransAxle at 10:40 PM 12/10/2007
SR20DET Build Question
Re: (TransAxle)
no one has any input?
Re: (Hijacker)
Yeah, you're not gonna get 400 out of a S15 T28.Hijacker wrote:The S14 T28 may have trouble flowing your power goals. 350 is attainable on an S15 T28, but I think 400 might be out of reach for it as well.
740cc is a big injector. You might be better off going with a 660cc
If you're wanting to track 400hp, I would go with the 740s. Even if they are a little big (not much though), its always good to have a little extra room.
Re: (otterman)
exactly, but i know the t28 is only good for around 300whp, but one of my questions is whats a good size turbo to go with! i dont plan on keeping th stock one very long once i have it!otterman wrote:
Yeah, you're not gonna get 400 out of a S15 T28.
If you're wanting to track 400hp, I would go with the 740s. Even if they are a little big (not much though), its always good to have a little extra room.
Take about two seconds of your time to look at the thread that's like 5 posts away from yours on the main page
"gt2871r .64 - 400hp"
zerothread/213470
Copy that guy's setup, it's pretty awsome, on alot of normal parts.
And fwiw: to hell with staggered cams. What a waste. JWT S3 JWT S3 JWT S3 JWT S3 JWT S3 JWT S3 JWT S3 JWT S3 JWT S3
That way you won't need to touch your valvetrain either, and embarass it with BC stuff.
"gt2871r .64 - 400hp"
zerothread/213470
Copy that guy's setup, it's pretty awsome, on alot of normal parts.
And fwiw: to hell with staggered cams. What a waste. JWT S3 JWT S3 JWT S3 JWT S3 JWT S3 JWT S3 JWT S3 JWT S3 JWT S3
That way you won't need to touch your valvetrain either, and embarass it with BC stuff.
Re: (codyace)
Actualy i read your thread long ebfore i made this one! And you setup is trying to make big power cheaply. I have done that before and its not a good thing. I would rather make a motor capable of 400dd and 450 high boost and run consertative on it, for realiablity purposes! Also again i would much rather go with BC parts over Jim Wolf parts anyday! The list i have is what i am going with but dont really now a good turbo size to go with! But i have already found the answer i need last night from a smaller site, that only has about 15k in memebers over this site devoted to nissans/infinite with 90k members!codyace wrote:Take about two seconds of your time to look at the thread that's like 5 posts away from yours on the main page
"gt2871r .64 - 400hp"
zerothread/213470
Copy that guy's setup, it's pretty awsome, on alot of normal parts.
And fwiw: to hell with staggered cams. What a waste. JWT S3 JWT S3 JWT S3 JWT S3 JWT S3 JWT S3 JWT S3 JWT S3 JWT S3
That way you won't need to touch your valvetrain either, and embarass it with BC stuff.
Re: (TransAxle)
Cheaply? Define please. I promise you I've got more money in this hotrod than you do. Being more expensive JDM brands <> Best partTransAxle wrote:And you setup is trying to make big power cheaply.
You want conservative? Try mid 11's afrs, no issues. Rom tune.TransAxle wrote:I have done that before and its not a good thing. I would rather make a motor capable of 400dd and 450 high boost and run consertative on it, for realiablity purposes!
Mmm lets compareTransAxle wrote:Also again i would much rather go with BC parts over Jim Wolf parts anyday!
One brand is made overseas, without good quality control, completly ripping off reputable companies designs, with known failure rates
versus
An American company, that has more time money and knowledge invested in SR20s (or Nissan in general) than dare I say any shop out there, that actually does cam dynoing and testing, that actually makes or has parts made in house (or under their control)....and mind you JWT parts, well, you don't see any threads on THEIR stuff breaking to you?
....and btw: BC stuff is cheap, knockoff, chinese junk.
Whats your answer, share with us. 3071r will fit those needs, so will mine with 4 more psi of boost.TransAxle wrote: The list i have is what i am going with but dont really now a good turbo size to go with! But i have already found the answer i need last night from a smaller site, that only has about 15k in memebers over this site devoted to nissans/infinite with 90k members!
Please, if you're going to argue, have a background in what you're arguing about. I've given you sound advice on my own personal experiences, not just some run of the mile forum bobo who reads SuperStreet and then repeats what they say on here....
Re: (codyace)
I've never heard anything like BC being cheap junk. What did you get this from? Not calling you a liar or anything, just wanting to read more into it.codyace wrote:
One brand is made overseas, without good quality control, completly ripping off reputable companies designs, with known failure rates
versus
An American company, that has more time money and knowledge invested in SR20s (or Nissan in general) than dare I say any shop out there, that actually does cam dynoing and testing, that actually makes or has parts made in house (or under their control)....and mind you JWT parts, well, you don't see any threads on THEIR stuff breaking to you?
....and btw: BC stuff is cheap, knockoff, chinese junk.
Modified by otterman at 9:41 AM 12/17/2007
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Re: (codyace)
Honestly, I think if you can afford Tomei LSD, driveshaft (? didn't know they made one), Tomei HG, HKS cams, etc. That you can afford the extra money on Tomei/greddy RAS and Tomei springs/retainers. Tomei isn't a cater to all imports possible company like BC, they specialize in SR20's and have since the motor came out. Their parts are very good. Not knocking BC, but I know that when compared to Tomei, BC is not as good. As I said, if you can afford the best for other things, use the best for it all . My .02
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Re: (homeslicej2)
If you're in Dacula, talk with Tyler over at Killswitch Performance. You can also find him on 240atlanta.com.
Re: (codyace)
Ah, its cool. I looked on Zilvia and FreshAlloy but didn't find anything... could be because I was freakin exhausted last night haha. I will find it after work and post a link here.codyace wrote:Search them on 'other' forums, google, and the sort.
I'm tired, and finals are mon-thursday, so my brain is already pre occupied and stalling as it is hehe.
I hate using the search card, but totally am...excuse my lazyness (wow, thats bad from me hehe)
Re: (homeslicej2)
Well this i agree with. I mean i have read through alot fo boards and everyone i have seen said that the HKS step 2 was one of th best to go with, plus the tomies are only about $60 more for there cams, but everywhere i read said HKS's cams! PLus i wont dismiss that Tomie is the best parts when it comes to SR20's just some of there parts are equal to other companys parts and just for a slightly less price.homeslicej2 wrote:Honestly, I think if you can afford Tomei LSD, driveshaft (? didn't know they made one), Tomei HG, HKS cams, etc. That you can afford the extra money on Tomei/greddy RAS and Tomei springs/retainers. Tomei isn't a cater to all imports possible company like BC, they specialize in SR20's and have since the motor came out. Their parts are very good. Not knocking BC, but I know that when compared to Tomei, BC is not as good. As I said, if you can afford the best for other things, use the best for it all . My .02
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Re: (TransAxle)
Oh, I agree. HKS makes d*mn good stuff and their SR cams are spot on. They focus on a lot of stuff and models, Tomei is the SR. The cams were not my concern. The BC retainers/springs and RAS are though. Get Greddy RAS and Tomei retainers/springs.
Re: (homeslicej2)
yeah i went through my list and revised it, and it comes to maybe a few hundred more for changing most of the stuff up to tomie, plus i will probably geta custom exhaust done which will save me on spending $400 for the buddy club exhaust!homeslicej2 wrote:Oh, I agree. HKS makes d*mn good stuff and their SR cams are spot on. They focus on a lot of stuff and models, Tomei is the SR. The cams were not my concern. The BC retainers/springs and RAS are though. Get Greddy RAS and Tomei retainers/springs.
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Re: (TransAxle)
I have BC 264 cams and BC springs. i am going for the best bang for the buck build. we wil lsee where it leads.
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Re: (TransAxle)
TransAxle wrote:
yeah i went through my list and revised it, and it comes to maybe a few hundred more for changing most of the stuff up to tomie, plus i will probably geta custom exhaust done which will save me on spending $400 for the buddy club exhaust!
hopefully not down the path of wasted money.idahotuner wrote:I have BC 264 cams and BC springs. i am going for the best bang for the buck build. we wil lsee where it leads.
Re: (homeslicej2)
I told him in the other thread, CHEAP FAST RELIABLE ...pick twohomeslicej2 wrote:hopefully not down the path of wasted money.
JWT cams don't require springs and or retainers. Even better!
Re: SR20DET Build Question (TransAxle)
yeah i changed my list up added some stuff in that i forgot or figured it would be smart to add to!
Cusco Motor MountsTomei RASTomei 740xx Injectors Tomei Exhaust Turbine Elbow Outlet Pipe (O2 Extension) Tomei Trax Advance 2-Way LSD Differential Tomei Dual Valve Springs Type-B SR20DET High LiftCrower Titanium Retainer KitTomei 260/260 ProcamsTomei 1.2mm HeadgasketTomei Alum. DriveshaftNismo Fuel Pressure Regulator Type-ANismo Colder Thermostat Greddy Intake ManifoldAPR 12pt Headstuds!
Cusco Motor MountsTomei RASTomei 740xx Injectors Tomei Exhaust Turbine Elbow Outlet Pipe (O2 Extension) Tomei Trax Advance 2-Way LSD Differential Tomei Dual Valve Springs Type-B SR20DET High LiftCrower Titanium Retainer KitTomei 260/260 ProcamsTomei 1.2mm HeadgasketTomei Alum. DriveshaftNismo Fuel Pressure Regulator Type-ANismo Colder Thermostat Greddy Intake ManifoldAPR 12pt Headstuds!
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Re: SR20DET Build Question (TransAxle)
well it hasnt been until now that i have heard bad stuff about BC parts.
Re: SR20DET Build Question (TransAxle)
I actually like the stock one, and would see you opt maybe for a 300zx radiator cap...a cold engine, that is 'too' cold, isn't always the best.TransAxle wrote:yeah i changed my list up added some stuff in that i forgot or figured it would be smart to add to!
Nismo Colder Thermostat
...i see you have a Tomei thing too huh? Any particular reason or just brand loyalty?
Re: SR20DET Build Question (idahotuner)
Me either. There are going to be lemons with any product as somethings slip by quality control. BC really isn't that bad. Definitely not the best setup money can buy but far from chinese crap. FWIW though I wouldn't use them LOL. I'll defer to codyace on this one though as most of his ideas are spot on.idahotuner wrote:well it hasnt been until now that i have heard bad stuff about BC parts.
Modified by redtop91 at 9:48 PM 12/18/2007