speed sensor identification

[White Comet]

i'll post some pics up after work tomorrow, but i'm trying to confirm that the speed sensor i have is from an s14 before i take the time to splice it in. it looks just like the s13 speed sensor except the wire colors on the pig tail are both solid green with no stripes. basically i just need the s14 sensor to run my type x gauge cluster. like i said, pics tomorrow, but i appreciate any help

[diggles240]

The s14 speed sensor should have a plastic housing if the SR trans. is the same as the KA trans. I know the USDM s13 speed sensor has a metal housing. Are you using a KA trans. and SR bellhousing- not sure if there is actually a difference in the trans. casing itself. Sorry, not much help without a pic

[White Comet]

alright i have lots of pics, so that should clear things up. just to get all the details out, the trans i'm using is a ka trans with an sr bellhousing and lower harness. i do have th original ka trans speed sensor but i don't think there's a difference (correct me if i'm wrong).

here is the sensor that was in my old s13 sr trans

heres the s14 sensor (if it really is from an s14)and the wires are both green with no stripes. the pic of the wire color came out badly though

hope thsi is more clear, and thanks for any help

[jdm_master_X]

i honestly have had no problem running auto or manual sensors.

i have a 98 blacktop with J4 ecu, and S14 obd II auto sensor. when i switched to HUD, it still really didnt make any difference.

hope this helps.

[White Comet]

i do appreciate the help but i don't think it helps me. i know for a fact i need an s14 sensor for the type x gauge cluster to read properly, i'm just wondering if the s14 sensor is really from an s14. i don't want to put it in then find out i was ripped off and have to redo it

[diggles240]

Metal sensor housing is from an s13, so it looks like you have two s13 speed sensors. The s14 sensor has a black plastic housing and no pigtail, but rather a plug for wiring. The speed sensor tutorial has pics of both for reference. Hope this helps.

[94_240sx]

The s14 sensor has a black plastic housing and no pigtail, but rather a plug for wiring.

I confirm this because I used s14 manual transmission when I did 5 speed swap on mine.

[White Comet]

damn it, so i paid for a sensor i already have

[placham]

damn it, so i paid for a sensor i already have

S14 or the 180sx Kouki type-x, sensor that you would need for the gauge cluster. Is all made from plastic. Here I uploaded some pics for you.Below two gears side by side. Red=manual Pink=auto trans. They both have 20teeth, but Pink one has the splines more slanted when looking at it. So if you get sensor from auto, it will work in manual but you'll have to get 5spd "pinion gear" Some people say that there is 2 different sensors fro auto and manual. I dont thinks so, because they both look the same. But than again I dont make speed sensors . In pics above the sensor in background is from auto transmission. Here is 5spd pinion gear Red with part number, it's like under 20bucks new.

Sensor I bought from local AutoZone, it was like $120(for '95 240sx 5spd), you'll also need to get pinion gear separate, and the gear retainer/clip.

I had a spare sensor from junkyard when I got a '95 KA motor while back. When I look at both of them they look the same, just depends on the pinion gear.

Also if you'll need the VSS plug/connector, and can't find it. Try to find a 2nd gen Altima think they were like 98 to what 01 or something. Cause the 1st gen was like Japan Bluebird SSS like below which had SR20DET AWDThis is 2nd gen, I'm 100% positive that the plug/connector for the speed sensor works with S14 VSS, I'm not sure if the sensor from Altima fits 240sx but they look alike. 2nd gen below.

Here is a link to my car, in pics you'll see that I'm using the 180sx Type-x cluster, just so you know that I'm not full of $hit like some 16year old kid. And No I'm not running the sensor at this time, so I can't verify that the sensor works correctly with the cluster. But that is the sensor you would need to use.

Link-> zerothread?id=384747

Hope this helps you out,

[94_240sx]

^^ That's a great info. I kinda went through similar stuff and found out 89-90 speed sensor pinion gear has different part number than the one from 91-94. They look very similar, so it'll work, but not recommended. I'm not 100% sure, but gear inside of transmission looked like plastic too, so you don't want to mess it up since it's going to be very hard to replace.

I bought a rear seal for the transmission and somehow speed sensor o-ring was in the bag too. I guess I got lucky or something.

For the plug on s14 VSS, I think you can just solder wires there. You have a plenty of space to do that.

[94_240sx]

damn it, so i paid for a sensor i already have

Don't worry. People want to buy s13/s14 VSS all the time. If you are not careful, that thing gets damaged easily when transmission is out of the car.

[White Comet]

actually that helps a lot

[placham]

^^ That's a great info. I kinda went through similar stuff and found out 89-90 speed sensor pinion gear has different part number than the one from 91-94. They look very similar, so it'll work, but not recommended. I'm not 100% sure, but gear inside of transmission looked like plastic too, so you don't want to mess it up since it's going to be very hard to replace.

I bought a rear seal for the transmission and somehow speed sensor o-ring was in the bag too. I guess I got lucky or something.

For the plug on s14 VSS, I think you can just solder wires there. You have a plenty of space to do that.

Well from what I know S13 and S14 sensors are interchangeable in transmissions. Like KA and SR trans, and also RB20 trans.

He will/is using the 180sx Kouki Type-x cluster, which is the digital one, as opposed to S13/180sx chuki/zenki which is analog.

I got some pics of clusters from web really quickly.

180sx Kouki type-x clusterAnd S13 180sx Chuki/zenki cluster

When using the Kouki type-x cluster the speedo is off/not accurate with the S13 sensor. Same thing if you would upgrade to S14 cluster it wouldn't be accurate. Same as if you would swap a S13 5spd into an auto S14, your speedo would be off with S13 speed sensor.

[White Comet]

Don't worry. People want to buy s13/s14 VSS all the time. If you are not careful, that thing gets damaged easily when transmission is out of the car.

thats good to know cuz i have 3 now

[placham]

I just read through the rest of your post 94_240sx. I dont think you want to solder wires there I will try to take pic with out the plug. It's really tight, it would take too long and not sure if ti would work right. There are probably other cars that use that plug like Nissan/Infinity. I'm just positive that Altima has that for a fact.

And I'm not trying to be prick, I just want to put out some info for others. Stay tuned for pics.

Edit: Okay her is picIs soldering wires do-able yes, but I personally wouldn't recommend it or attempt it only as a last resort. ,It would be better to source a plug from somewhere, and extend/adapt the wires to needs . $hit my Rb26 cam's came in from U.K. got to go .

Modified by placham at 12:04 PM 2/23/2009
Modified by placham at 12:05 PM 2/23/2009

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nvm... treed.