SPEC, A picture of quality...

[FSUDrifter]

dude,you can easily see that this clutch was used way passed when it was supposed to be replaced.look at the rivets.theres one for each hole.wheres the other half of the rivets then huh?..there is no other half,the damn flywheel wore the disc down so far it started shearing the rivets.the guys who sold you your car lied to you,and put a lot more miles on it then he siad he did.any clutch would look like this after that abuse.just cause you bought a half *** car,dont blame it on spec.and the reason im pissed,is your title states..look at the quallity of spec,which obviously ppl wanna look at.ur post should be..look at how bad i got jerked.

What? Sorry I didn't dig every last rivet out of the bottom of my bellhousing. I just scooped them out and put them in a pile for the picture. There are others sitting on the floor in my garage.

You can easily see that there is plenty of thickness left on the friction surface in this picture:

I know the guy who sold me the car lied to me, and I never actually thought that he was telling me the truth considering the price I paid for the car.

You are wrong. Any clutch would look like this after abuse? Is that why the technical support guy for SPEC said he had never seen anything like that?

Why the hell are you getting so defensive? You act like SPEC is the slutty girl at school that everyone makes fun of and you get all defensive when everyone talks **** about her because you lost your virginity to her.

I'm allowed to say whatever I want. I made this thread for 4 reasons:- This clutch- All the other stories I have heard about people having problems with SPEC- The guy at SPEC talking back to me and acting extremely unprofessional- To piss you off

[gizzerd]

You act like SPEC is the slutty girl at school that everyone makes fun of and you get all defensive when everyone talks **** about her because you lost your virginity to her.

[redtop91]

This thread rocks my socks off.

[eds13]

holy thread dig batman!!!!!!!

[SR20drftSX]

haha stfu 89 240hatch , you act like your the owner or chairman for SPEC clutches and you handbuilt this clutch yurself , and obviously there was sarcasm in his title , damn dude , , what are yu like 8 years old? grow up

pwnt!

[SR20drftSX]

that flip off pic rocks my world! haha i LOL'ed reall loud

[corey240]

this thread should be stickied. my clutch is exploded and im taking it apart tonight or tomorow, it is a spec i beleive and its doing somthing, il have pics of what it is, and if its not spec, it will show not all companies are equal as it could be an act. its yellow so its one o the other.

[RB20DETodd]

sex sex sex

[White Comet]

exedy ftw omgwtfbbq +9785434186153183415303 ive heard bad things about spec as well. but im not sure we should fight more about them unitl i am certain

[FSUDrifter]

this thread should be stickied.

I disagree, this thread should not be stickied. I don't know who put that clutch in my car, if it was put in right, how it was driven on, how old it was. I'm assuming that all of this happened under somewhat normal conditions, and that's why I bought exedy. This might just be an extreme case.

Still makes me wonder because the guy i bought the car from said it was driving fine before he sold it to me...

[B-Boy DuB-L]

so how do you like the exedy. is it holding up to your expectations

[FSUDrifter]

so how do you like the exedy. is it holding up to your expectations

it's great. never slips, yet VERY streetable. I recommend Exedy 100% so far.

[EviL inside]

OMG that's gotta be the longest middle finger i've ever seen.

can you make the tip glow?

[coupe240sxguy]

I do agree with u FSUDrifter, with everything that you had said about the company... that is the way to put him down to size

[180sxfaktory]

I don't know if you all ever look at who sponsors NICO, but SPEC is a major supporter of NICO. I don't see Daikin (Exedy) or big ACT banners on the forum. Out of fairness to one of the sponsors, why don't we see what SPEC has to say about it? I e-mailed Jeremy at SPEC and told him about the "horror" stories being put on this forum and asked him to get someone from SPEC to get on here and do some defense work. I sell SPEC clutches and I use them, as well. I nor my clients have not suffered catastrophic clutch failures from using SPEC. We did, however, go through 3 ACT clutch pressure plates and 1 OS GIKEN twin plate with our 2JZ-powered S14.

We make sure we are using the correct max torque holding capacity when ordering clutches for our engines and we use the manufacterer's instructions that come with each kit for flywheel preparation, assembly, torque and break-in regardless of the brand. If I install it, my partner QA's the work, and vice-versa. There was previous talk of inferior materials and production methods, but there was nothing presented to substantiate the claims. Just a bunch of heresay and someone's personal experience. I suggest a clutch shootout amongst the different clutch manufacturers. I don't think NICO could afford to do this, and it would be something a major print publication should take on.

In summary, out of fairness to the manufacturer and to the users and to potential buyers, I suggest getting the manufacturer to chime in. I think that this can clear the air. Additionally, I think that SPEC, Exedy, ACT, USUK, ISUK, ACME and whoever else wants to put a clutch kit out needs to have their own section to view feedback and to put out information regarding their products.

[Ali 556]

Why the hell are you getting so defensive? You act like SPEC is the slutty girl at school that everyone makes fun of and you get all defensive when everyone talks **** about her because you lost your virginity to her.

- To piss you off

[Didderson]

Always heard bad things... Maybe it's time to pull them from our sponsor list. I love the last pic, *rightclick /saved

[Logan76]

I disagree, this thread should not be stickied. I don't know who put that clutch in my car, if it was put in right, how it was driven on, how old it was. I'm assuming that all of this happened under somewhat normal conditions, and that's why I bought exedy. This might just be an extreme case.

So let me get this straight, you bought the car NOT running, and your clutch goes out of it, you realize its a spec clutch, so you obviously bash spec, but as you've stated above you dont know how it was installed, who installed, if it was broken in, or any of that. All you really know is the guy before you was a moron, and couldnt even get his SR running right, did you expect him to install his clutch properly and break it in properly?

[FSUDrifter]

wrong, he had the car running right, the seals on the stock turbo went out so he upgraded to arp's and cometic, and started parting stock stuff out, kinda threw it back together half-assed, then changed his mind and sold it.

What I'm thinking is maybe, since the car sat for a while, the disk may have gotten stuck to the pressure plate and/or flywheel. Starting it and pushing the clutch for the first time may have done it. I don't know, I never heard anything.

I was never bashing SPEC, that was other people. I was just posting cool pictures, saying I'll never buy another spec (it's MY CHOICE, I CAN BUY WHATEVER THE **** I WANT TO BUY), and maybe it was a little in retaliation to the SPEC guy being a complete d!ck when I called them to talk about getting a new clutch disk.

[Logan76]

Well, ignorant people always turn me away from a product, but it is your choice on what clutch you got, I wasnt bashing on your opinion I like Exedy myself, it just seemed alot of people in this thread bashed Spec.

[H8tred]

It really all boils down the personal opinion and experience. I see nothing wrong with this thread. He never really said anything bad about spec until after his phone call to them. Kinda like my 90 dollar NGK spark plug wires that have more resistance than the POS god knows what brand wires I replaced. I have the numbers jotted down somewhere, and the next time I change the plugs I'll test them again. Perhaps they needed "break in". I'll check out OEM next time just for ****s and giggles.

[94_240sx]

Kinda like my 90 dollar NGK spark plug wires that have more resistance than the POS god knows what brand wires I replaced.

Man... I was about to order a set of blue NGK wires.

[180sxfaktory]

It really all boils down the personal opinion and experience. I see nothing wrong with this thread. He never really said anything bad about spec until after his phone call to them. Kinda like my 90 dollar NGK spark plug wires that have more resistance than the POS god knows what brand wires I replaced. I have the numbers jotted down somewhere, and the next time I change the plugs I'll test them again. Perhaps they needed "break in". I'll check out OEM next time just for ****s and giggles.

Exactly... personal preference, what one can afford and experience, BUT that doesn't mean that the person making a purchase should do it without some info. We all want info before we buy things. Because of the bashing that SPEC got, I expect them to come on here and clarify some issues. It wasn't just this thread, but other threads I have seen. I think any manufacturer that gives a rat's a$$ about their product should do that.

[2FourTee]

How can you possibly form an opinion of a company's products based on a used clutch? You don't know if it was improperly installed, abused, etc.

[180sxfaktory]

How can you possibly form an opinion of a company's products based on a used clutch? You don't know if it was improperly installed, abused, etc.

That's what I said, too. If one wants to really ponder it, why aren't we complaining to Nissan that our cars are old and don't drive the way they used to? Man! I want my money back or a new production S13 chassis.

[JPsNissans]

Just my 2 cents incase anyone wants to know i have been running a clutch masters stage 3 clutch for 10k miles and its held up good. ( sucks for daily but o well)

Ya, CM is my brand of choice. Put one in the Miata and it's fantastic.

My buddy has the same clutch as the OP that he is extremely happy with, we beat the hell out of it. Good luck with your next clutch!

[Charlie240sxt]

I ripped the center out of an ACT clutch a XTSS setup i still have it too!!! but i think it was the hard driving and one of the PP springs gave out

[Meng1988]

Exactly... personal preference, what one can afford and experience, BUT that doesn't mean that the person making a purchase should do it without some info. We all want info before we buy things. Because of the bashing that SPEC got, I expect them to come on here and clarify some issues. It wasn't just this thread, but other threads I have seen. I think any manufacturer that gives a rat's a$$ about their product should do that.

I hope they come on here too. Then they can answer some of my questions. Like maybe that Corvette clutch that shattered the windshield and nearly took the guys legs off.

[H8tred]

Man... I was about to order a set of blue NGK wires.

Don't let me stop you, their not bad wires. I wish they weren't blue, but that's all. Like I said, I need to test them again, perhaps they make them with a higher resistance initially so they have a longer life span. I can't really say until I find my old box of wires that are tagged with the resistance comparisons.

Get them from Sparkplugs.com They're a sponsor, and Nico members get 10% off iirc.

[H8tred]

How can you possibly form an opinion of a company's products based on a used clutch? You don't know if it was improperly installed, abused, etc.

Well, it's just like that guy who bought wheels from wheels next and one of them imploded. The rivets should not have sheared with that much friction surface left, regardless of how it was treated. It's no benchmark, but the fact that it happened, and his experience with their customer support is an important factor in comparison shopping for the rest of us Nico members.

I too think they should come in here and chat about the subject, it's just good bidness sense.