Sony 10 disk changer

[ddrumman]

Hey guys,

Well I just got my Sony 10 disk changer back from:

Sony Service Center37768 Hills Tech DriveFarmington Hills, MI, 48331phone: (248) 848-1690

I carefully removed those two screws and then installed it. It played flawlessly for a while and then that dreaded “cd err” came on just like before. It did that while on “random”. Only difference is that now the magazine won’t even eject. WTF?

D.

[maxnix]

There's a CD stuck in it. Take it out and send it back. Might want to chek first since most warranties don't cover recordable CD-ROM (expecially wiht labels), but I would think they would have to prove the disc is defective. I don't trust anything but in mine CD-R for this reason.

[ddrumman]

Hey Brian,

I was able to get the magazine out. I then took all the crd’s out labeled or not.Just left all factory cds in and STILL “cd err” display. It SHOULD be able to play cdr’s without any problem. Also my Clarion Disk changer in my MGB has no problem playing cdr’s labeled or not.ARGHHH&^&*(^$&*^(*&^Now I’ll have to play this “two week long” game of sending the unit back and forth to Michigan. And every time I do it’s $11.45 to UPS. So far $164.45 and counting…

I’m wondering if something is wrong with the electrical system, wire harness, etc. that’s causing this malfunction. Could it also be the reason why my keyless entry doesn’t work? My remote is good and I’ve tried two different receiver units.

D.

[maxnix]

Don't know if it is related or not, but I would think not. Lean on Sony to do a better test before they dhip it back to you. They should swallow the shipping also.

Was there not a CD stuck in the player?

[ddrumman]

I wish I knew what's causing this. The only reason I'm thinking that they might be related is: some times when I turn the key off, the seat and steering wheel don't go back and up as they should.The dealer says the memory has to be reset.....All this electrical stuff!!! I will make sure, that Sony does a good check before they ship it back.I'm just worried that it might be something with the wire harness that goes to the back of the changer.

And, no there wasn't any CDs stuck in the player.

Ah well!! I know it'll work out at the end. It's just a bother. Look what happened to Corey (miniman), That really sucks.It makes my problem look like a none issue.

D.

[Jesda]

There should be some old posts about the seat memory reset steps. Maybe its in the articles section? Something with turning the key and opening the door...

I say its time to dump the discs and get a digital player. CDs are so 1987.

-Jesda

[Jeff Williams]

When you get home, or to work, turn the car off, but leave the key in the ignition. Open and close the door. Wait about 2 minutes, then open the door. This should reset the seat & steering wheel.

I am on my 3rd eBay CD Changer, and it just went to the dredded "CD Err" code' last week. I think my total expenditure, is close to $100.

I agree with Jesda. I think I will be upgrading to either a later model Infiniti unit, with the in-dash CD player, or the Kenwood Excelon DDX7015, in black. I also understand that the Clarion 6-disc changer might wrok just fine, in our cars. I think Wes has a Clarion unit.

[Rex]

Single In-Dash can be installed with an adpater. I got mine froma guy on ebay, but I think it's a Nissan part. IIRC, someone even figured out what the part number was, the guy that sold me mine, cut most of the Nissan part # tag off the harness and the bag, but left it in the bag.

I'm not sure, but think the later (standard Double DIN) Bose 6 Disc In-Dash changer will fit/work as well, but missed out on that due to slow bidding. I see tham at times on ebay for $200-$300. A bit steep, but you shouldn't see any of the problems you're getting from the 10 yr old unit.

FWIK, The Clarion and the Sony used the same 16 pin (only 14 wires??) connector to attach. Might be worth having Wess take a quick pic, when he gets a working camera.

One last note, JESDA - find a way for us to feed the digital signal in through the changer jack/plug on the back and we'll have a winner .

[maxnix]

Still don't think ddrumman CD player problems have anything with his seat problems. Just think the CD player was not adjusted correctly at the factory.

Might send the magazine that jammed back to Sony with it. I assume it is a Sony original and not a knock off?

I love being able to select my music for my eclectic tastes. The Sirius and XM channels are just too narrowly defined and miss some of the good stuff to play the "popular" tunes in each genre. The fidelity is superb, though. If you like someone else choosing your tunes for you, it is acceptable. For me, it is not.

[szh]

I love being able to select my music for my eclectic tastes. The Sirius and XM channels are just too narrowly defined and miss some of the good stuff to play the "popular" tunes in each genre. The fidelity is superb, though. If you like someone else choosing your tunes for you, it is acceptable. For me, it is not.

Heartily agreed. I had a rental car recently with one of these in it (forget which). It got to be too painful to search for alternate channels when I did not like what was playing. Too many choices. The simplistic controls made searching kind of a pain too. No memory settings as far as I could tell ... are other units similarly neutered?

Z

[ddrumman]

Jesda,I want everything. CD player, Satellite radio, excellent car audio gear, you name it.I love the Alpine 9835 head unit. Probably THE choice as far as high quality/bang for buck type of item. The only thing I hate is that with Alpine you have to go XM and I am a Sirius fan.I would need at least $3,500 if I were to put in the type of system that I want and that does NOT include any monitors and video equipment and stuff like that. Just Audio.

Jeff,I'll try that with turning the motor off but, leaving the key in the ignition and waiting a couple of minutes.

Rex,As I mentioned above, if I had my "drathers", I would completelyscratch the BOSE system all together and get some REAL equipment in there. As it stands now I'm into this Sony repair thing for $165 so I have to see it through.

Brian,Yeah, I think that you are right about the seat and disk problems being independent of one another. How about the key fob receiver unit not talking to my remote?Everyone I know says, that receiver hardly EVER goes bad. The parts manager of Thousand Oaks Infiniti says that as long as he's been working there, he's NEVER had to order that part.

As far as choosing your tunes why not have BOTH Satellite and CD changer.

I'll be on the phone with "Trishia" from Sony real soon.

D.

[maxnix]

Satellite Radio is...ummm...well...radio. The tunes are chosen for you. I like popular stuff, but there is a lot of good music that never gets airplay because either it can't be pigeon-holed, or there are no big bucks promotions behind it.

I presume you have followed the (previously posted) TSB on programming remotes? If it fails, then you may want to look at the module and check its connections.

[ddrumman]

And oh by the way,The mag that was stuck in the changer is a SONY XA-10B.

D.

[maxnix]

Send it in and have it checked, especially if you don't have another to check it against. I've never had that failure among my 6 magazines.

[SFBayQ45]

I was able to get the magazine out.

For future reference, I'd like to find out how you got it out. Did you pry it out with some magical tool?

[ddrumman]

Just got off the phone with Sony. They are overnighting a shipping label so that I don't pay for shipping.I'll include the mag and hope for the best.I've always had 2 magazines and I'm not sure which I've used the most. I always thought it didn't make any difference.

SFBayQ45,No, I didn't pry it out. I just took the harness off, waited a bit and then plugged it back in. Then I pushed the "eject" button and it made that familiar sound that it does and thank God it came off.

D.

[maxnix]

ddrumman, might want to get a quick check of your alternator and battery while your CD player is out for recheck. Just to ensure everthing is up to snuff.

[ddrumman]

Good idea Brian,

I might be going down to San Diego later this month or early next month.I'll probably pay a visit to Jerry Tucker's. I'm already thinking of doing that "brake job" with AZHitman's parts in which case I'd take the car to them for that anyway.

You wouldn't believe that; at Thousand Oaks Infiniti they had problems installing the " A rear sway bar" and lucky for me the parts department manager had it done on his Q, so he showed them how/helped them out. And by the way I love the way it feels with the rear sway bar. Very focused and more nimble.

Also, I think that when I take it to Jerry's they'll figure out my key fob receiver unit problem.

D.

[ddrumman]

[QUOTE]originally posted by maxnix"Satellite Radio is...ummm...well...radio. The tunes are chosen for you. I like popular stuff, but there is a lot of good music that never gets airplay because either it can't be pigeon-holed, or there are no big bucks promotions behind it.

I presume you have followed the (previously posted) TSB on programming remotes? If it fails, then you may want to look at the module and check its connections."

Brian,You're absolutely right on, about good music getting pigeon-holed.Being that I've made my living as a musician, that is a sore spot for me. I cannot stand the thought of a bunch of lawyers and execs that have NO clue about music , deciding what songs they'll brain wash/shove down our throats with.Or,which made up/produced doll they'll present to us,as the new star,singer, entertainer or what have you. ....ummmm.... let's see Brittany Spears, Jessica Simpson, take your pick.At least with satellite radio some VERY deserving artists get a chance to be heard, where other wise it'd be a cold day in Hell before that would happen with FM.

I'll also check with the previous TSB posts.

D.

[AZhitman]

My CD player made 3 trips to the local repair shop before it was PROPERLY fixed.

It now has 2 parts from Jeff Williams's old CD changer and one part from another NICO member's CD changer... When it dies, well, I'll be screwed I suppose.

[maxnix]

You wouldn't believe that; at Thousand Oaks Infiniti they had problems installing the " A rear sway bar" and lucky for me the parts department manager had it done on his Q, so he showed them how/helped them out.

Did they try to connect it from the bottom (essentially upside down)? The "a" bar is a great handling enhancer, everything else being up to grade.

At least with satellite radio some VERY deserving artists get a chance to be heard, where other wise it'd be a cold day in Hell before that would happen with FM.

True, but still doesn't go deep enough for me. But I am not a complete musical lemming.

[squeefoo]

DDRUMMAN Couldn't find where you had problems w/CD -what did/didn't it do??

[maxnix]

DDRUMMAN Couldn't find where you had problems w/CD -what did/didn't it do??

Eject the magazine without recycling the unit.

[squeefoo]

According to my overly brief Sony instruction sheet, if the temp. (presumably yours is in your trunk) is above 131F the unit will show a code. I know my trunk gets hot and this is Wisc.!Nothing in here about removing "stuck" cartridge.

[maxnix]

I have noticed the heat thing (hot being over 85° F here in Seattle) that my CD player will get staticy on a road trip. I have always wondered about actual static charge on the disc being enabled be the units heat output.

[ddrumman]

[QUOTE]originally posted by squeefo:DDRUMMAN Couldn't find where you had problems w/CD -what did/didn't it do??

It played about 60% of the time. The rest of the time it would show “cd err”, skipped and didn’t like it when I used the “random” function, which plays any tune from any of the 10 disks, which is one of my favorite functions. Also it used to play CDRs without any problems. Not any more.

I've thought about how hot it gets back there. I never really thought it made that big of a difference. I guess maybe it does. I remember the first time I saw that "cd err" sign, I was on the Santa Ana freeway going after some self powered speakers for my drum studio. It was hot outside.

D.

[maxnix]

It played about 60% of the time. The rest of the time it would show “cd err”, skipped and didn’t like it when I used the “random” function, which plays any tune from any of the 10 disks, which is one of my favorite functions. Also it used to play CDRs without any problems. Not any more.

Now this is good information. Random involves a lot of loading and unlaoding of discs. Suspicion of malfunction falls to the cassetes first, and the discs secondarily, unless they play fine in sequence.

If the latter, it has to be the CD player racking (its movement from cassette slot to cassette slot) and it's disc handling. This is very much something that should have been fine tuned by Sony.

[ddrumman]

"unless they play fine in sequence"

ummm..... Well, I would say that if I left it alone and let it just play, it would last a lot longer before showing me that "cd err" thing. And then, guess when it would do it?... Yup,when it was time to load another disk.I don't know what that signifies but I just hope they fix it right this time.

D.

[maxnix]

It signifies that Sony didn't adjust the tracking player correctly. Tell them you want it tested thoroughly this time before it is returned.

[bbdaines]

Hello,

I bought my 92Q in an auction, it has the control unit, but no changer, where did they get mounted in the trunk ? I can't find the wiring.

Thanks, Blair