Something other than an SR, CA, RB, JZ, VG, 350, swap

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^ yeah the 20b is nice, i'll stick with the 13b though.

heres a little about the 16xhttp://www.rx7club.com/showthr...t=16xhttp://w ... Ar...68837


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White Comet wrote:yeah thats true, but the point of the swap isnt always to be cool, its about picking an engine thats a smart choice. an sbc motor can run at full throttle for an hour with no oil or coolant/water, before the engine blows. my brother's engine for example, is just a regular 350, but he got it fro free and parts are cheap
Not true, exspecially the SBC 400 with the steam holes in the heads, run her dry and hard and she'll shot gun good. But you can buy replacement blocks all day long for 50 bucks.

When it came to my car I was like hmmm I have the engine, lets put it in a small car. After looking at the options I choose the 240.

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yeah ur right, i realized after i posted that its just the 350 for that fact

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supercharged Series 2 3800 out of like a GTP Grand Prix or SSEI Bonneville.Cheap and one of the best motors GM has built (reliably) I have one for sale 220-230 whp 7lbs of boost.

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what about a f20c or f22c :P

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urcaptnspeaking wrote:supercharged Series 2 3800 out of like a GTP Grand Prix or SSEI Bonneville.Cheap and one of the best motors GM has built (reliably) I have one for sale 220-230 whp 7lbs of boost.
one of the worst ideas in this thread

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White Comet wrote:one of the worst ideas in this thread
Ha I know Im just trying to get rid of it.

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why? u parting out the car?

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Essentially, your swap options are nearly limitless.

I would suggest that you first clearly define your performance expectations. This should narrow down your list of potential swaps. Keep in mind that your choice of swap will determine the complexity of the planning and work required to get everything to work. And finally, don't skimp on the details! You're investing your hard earned money to create an awesome performance machine!

Good luck and post your project pics!


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DO you remember the green SSEI I had pics of when I first got on this site?... my mom hit a patch of ice and hit a gaurd rail..
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You can do a built N/A SR20DE. It's been done before, but its definatley not that common.

something like this. this ones not even that "built"


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goldeneye9mm wrote:do a 4g63. that would be sweet. i've deen the rwd in starion's and conquests's so there is gotta be a rwd trans for it.
you can use a transmission from a old mighty max, they mate up with the 4g63. I personally would love to do a fj20, L28, or a L16.

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urcaptnspeaking wrote:DO you remember the green SSEI I had pics of when I first got on this site?... my mom hit a patch of ice and hit a gaurd rail..

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of course i remember that. i just assumed u woudl sell it whole

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koukicody wrote:You can do a built N/A SR20DE. It's been done before, but its definatley not that common.

something like this. this ones not even that "built"
I thought about that, but then I realized how much a nice itb setup would be. That is probably a really fun car to drive.

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Sorry but the mighty max\dodge d50 trans wont bolt up to a 4g63. My brother has a 4g conquest and tried that, it wont happen. But if you can get an adapter plate machined anything bolts up to anything, I know a guy with a 4g conquest thats got a chevy t5 trans.

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L28ET

inexpensive motor, reliable torque, decent fuel mileage, readily available parts, relatively easy swap, stock bottom end can take upwards of 20psi and 300hp.

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PapaBurgundy wrote:I know a guy with a 4g conquest thats got a chevy t5 trans.
why woudl he run a chevy t5, theyre really weak

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I would sell it whole.. $750 for everything. (could be fixed)

Also about the T5 transmission isnt that what they put in blazers...and mustangs?

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^ yeah t5s are in camaros as well. the ford t5s are stronger then the chevy ones

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Ahh. I thought they were the same, but with a different housing. I learned something today.

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yeah my brother is ditching his camaros t5 for a t56

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Wow. Looks like I opened up a can o' worms on this topic, haha. I am gone for a few days and it turns out that the one that stuck me as the best idea was the guy with the GNX motor idea.

My main thought about putting another 4 cylinder engine in a 240 is for a couple reasons: 1. MPG's. As much as I don't want to pay $4.00/gal for gas, I don't want a car that will be guzzling too much of it that I would have to spend my time at the gas station (because my car is a daily driver). and2. I considered an ecotec because of the availability of parts being made for an engine that is...still being made. It might cost the same long-term.

Finally, I don't like shoving larger output motors in a car that was designed otherwise. Granted it is awesome to shove a 350 in an old 240sx, but I would much rather stay nearer to the 4 or 6 cylinder so I can still maintain good balance...

...but I will shove a v8 into an mx-5

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Ice2CU wrote: I would much rather stay nearer to the 4 or 6 cylinder so I can still maintain good balance...
an all aluminum ls would be a fine balance

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since we're still talking about LSx, what about a vortec 4.8 or 5.3? you can find them just about anywhere for next to nothing. 270-295 hp stock. maybe do a 150 wet shot if you're feelin' freaky..

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actually the the LSx is pretty fuel efficient probably almost as good as the ecotec believe it or not...compare mpg of a GTO to a sky redline you'll be surprised my buddies with GTOs get almost 30mpg highway

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gregfarz78 wrote:actually the the LSx is pretty fuel efficient probably almost as good as the ecotec believe it or not...compare mpg of a GTO to a sky redline you'll be surprised my buddies with GTOs get almost 30mpg highway
I know the LS1'a had pretty good mileage with a manual transmission. The LS2 is 1-2 little less, but considering everything, the GM V-8s are among the best in fuel efficiency. I only look at city mpg. I never waste my time on highway because I live in the city anyways.

So then I should just take my car to Mallett and have them put a vette motor in my 240 since they put one in a Solstice.

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EviL inside wrote:L28ET

inexpensive motor, reliable torque, decent fuel mileage, readily available parts, relatively easy swap, stock bottom end can take upwards of 20psi and 300hp.
L28 would be a pita to get into a 240, it's a good bit to long. Also i would think that it being so long would throw off the balance.

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Ice2CU wrote:
I know the LS1'a had pretty good mileage with a manual transmission. The LS2 is 1-2 little less, but considering everything, the GM V-8s are among the best in fuel efficiency. I only look at city mpg. I never waste my time on highway because I live in the city anyways.

So then I should just take my car to Mallett and have them put a vette motor in my 240 since they put one in a Solstice.
only cause there are not many jap v-8s to whoop their fuel economies *** haha

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^ true, i think mrgreeneyes considered an l28 swap and deemed it not worth it


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