Something other than an SR, CA, RB, JZ, VG, 350, swap

[OutToWinPAHC]

Dude unique?

Theres a V12 in a 240, Countless LS's, A few small blocks, a VK56 (not an easy swap), a number of VH45's, VG's, Ford 302's. 1JZ's, 2Jz's, RB's, Rotary, FJ20's, Toyota V8's. It's pretty much been done, however I haven't seen any Subie powered S cars, a M3 powered S car would also be cool, maybe RS4, or even S4 powered.

As to the Grand National engine, bah its still a rear sump so thats going to be the issue, possible rack issues, and it was the engine to have..... in the late 80's

V12 200sx http://streettuners.vidiac.com...d.htm

LSX'shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FuFE7O4ifE

VH45DE

Ehh I give up I dont have all day to post pics

[kornaz]

Why other? It's getting redonculous about the stupid swaps. Consider this:IS IT WORTH IT?I'd take all the $ and build my KA 100% instead of doing some stupid sky/solstice swap. Whatev. To each his own.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

I dont see why people hate on teh LS1, most badass swap beside rb26 imo.

It's boring because everyone does it.

[BOOM_STICK]

how about a twin charged 20 valve 4age with individual throttle bodies?

[240RB1]

KA24ET nuff said

[Kckouki]

It's boring because everyone does it.

Everyone does LS1 swaps in 240s.........................

um....... no.

[rzaray89]

Why other? It's getting redonculous about the stupid swaps. Consider this:IS IT WORTH IT?I'd take all the $ and build my KA 100% instead of doing some stupid sky/solstice swap. Whatev. To each his own.

the way i see it, i'm all about the best bang for the buck, long term reliability, and something that i can fix with a trip to my 24hr autozone in case something happens. imo, unless the car is for show, being different doesnt get you any faster 1/4 mile ETs. i guess all that matters is that you're having fun in the end.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Everyone does LS1 swaps in 240s.........................

um....... no.

Not just in 240s, they're in everything now. Not cool anymore.

[kornaz]

the way i see it, i'm all about the best bang for the buck, long term reliability, and something that i can fix with a trip to my 24hr autozone in case something happens. imo, unless the car is for show, being different doesnt get you any faster 1/4 mile ETs. i guess all that matters is that you're having fun in the end.

That's what i'm saying. Everyone wants to be DIFFERENT these days. Who cares? I could care less if i have the ONLY and ONE made wheels or anything on my car. I go with quality and reliability.

I'd rather bang that blonde, than some never seen unknown chick from Unkownland. Tested and proven > rarity.

[brizanden]

Why other? It's getting redonculous about the stupid swaps. Consider this:IS IT WORTH IT?I'd take all the $ and build my KA 100% instead of doing some stupid sky/solstice swap. Whatev. To each his own.

hahaha but a $2,500 rb25det will find easy ways to destroy ur fully built ka. im just messin, but really

[kornaz]

hahaha but a $2,500 rb25det will find easy ways to destroy ur fully built ka. im just messin, but really

Somewhat true. But put into consideration all the work for rb25 to go in there. Dude, i'd rock one in no time! But, since i have 90% sh1t to go KAT, it's easier to go that way for me for now.

OP - here's an idea - stroke the rb25 to 2.7, and you'll be unique. Somewhat.

[BOOM_STICK]

Not just in 240s, they're in everything now. Not cool anymore.

yea, cuz high horsepower engines with lots of potential are definitely not cool, lol. come on dude, there everywhere for a reason.

[S14toRPS13]

I dont see why people hate on teh LS1, most badass swap beside rb26 imo.

Because my goal is to beat one not to have one. Then again, I'm really considering getting myself a new camaro once the frenzy dies down. So I can't be too much of a Nissan fanboy right?

[Kckouki]

Meh, I wont EVER buy another american car. They just seem like POS's to me.

God, I cant wait till tomarrow, when Im driving back my new 240 and the trucks gone.

[brizanden]

Somewhat true. But put into consideration all the work for rb25 to go in there. Dude, i'd rock one in no time! But, since i have 90% sh1t to go KAT, it's easier to go that way for me for now.

OP - here's an idea - stroke the rb25 to 2.7, and you'll be unique. Somewhat.

yeah but my post wasnt even completely fair. i plan on buying one this summ and its prolly gonna run me about 5.5 to 6k to get it in there right

[OutToWinPAHC]

Because my goal is to beat one not to have one. Then again, I'm really considering getting myself a new camaro once the frenzy dies down. So I can't be too much of a Nissan fanboy right?

The beauty of the LS is that the aftermarket support for them alone is awesome. You can get almost any cam you want from the 1000+ plus off the shelve ones or custom grinds.

All you have to do is pick your HP number and budget and go. For example, my LS6 block that was a weird year with LS1 heads and cam had stock 330HP at the flywheel. With bolt ones, heads and cam (maybe 4000 total in parts and tuning) she will be making 480 RWHP-430ish RWT. But over 520 horse at the flywheel on an inexspensive build is good IMO. But if I had 15K to invest into the engine I could build a LSX bowtie block that would snap rip the subframe out of the unibody.

The reason I went with it was because I was kind of done with turbos. I had 30K into my last project and I was only running mid 10's, I just couln't see spending more

[PapaBurgundy]

I hate to admit it, but the turbo ecotec is not a bad idea, there way stronger and better designed than an sr20 and make power easier and more reliably. If you had the money to make it happen that is.

[OutToWinPAHC]

ECOtec also came in the cavalier, sunfire, cobalt, and the G5. GM's budget cars, I would opt for something better. I think a SR would be superior, but the SR's are getting up there in age.

[kevinarich]

I never wanted to say anything about it, cuz I wanted to be the first. But Im doing a 3SGE beams out of an altezza into my s14. very rev happy, 6 speed, and plenty of power.

[PapaBurgundy]

I'm not talking about cavalier ecotecs, the solstice gxp's motor is direct injected, coil on plug, cam on bucket, stout bottom end, twin scroll turbo and 260 horse out of the box IIRC and like all GM/Chevy motors makes more power cheap and easy. Sorry to make the sr look bad but facts is facts. Cool points awarded to kevinarich for the 3sge. Whoever said bmw m3 motor stole my super secret idea.

[Didderson]

really the only thing different about that ecotec is the fact that is has forced induction. My mom's cavalier has coil on plugs and ****. It's actually a pretty nice motor. Hell the dragster cavaliers get like 1000 horsepower on their original block or even GM bottom end I forget. It's not a bad choice, but why? lol.

You also have to make sure the output shaft spins the same way as nissan. I don't know if it does.

edit, maybe u should just buy a solstice?

[treken2t87]

With the rising gas prices and summer around the corner (gas is ~4.50/gal in some parts of US), why not make an electric hybrid or even a freakin' hydrogen powered 240? All flaming aside, THAT would be an awesome/unique swap IMO

[Ls1pwr]

Let's say you end up spending $10k on a basic ECO whatever swap and I spend $10k on my SR. Sure you'll be different, but you're still getting left waaay behind. I'm not a fan of LS1 swaps, but atleast in the end you end up with some crazy amount of power and torque.

dude u have no idea what the ecotec is capable of........ that thing will hold 1500hp all day long if built right. ur sr20 with over 600rwhp is a timebomb waiting to explode
Modified by Ls1pwr at 8:49 PM 4/27/2008

[PapaBurgundy]

I agree with ls1pwr. And yes its a pointless swap but the OP was talking about doing something different for the sake of being different, the words purposeful or cost effective were never mentioned.

[OutToWinPAHC]

Yeah I dunno, swaps are so common on this car most aspects have been touced on. Just pick your motor, make sure it will fit and get to work.

I'd like to see STI or M3 powered, but the STI engines sit low and the heads could be in the way of the rack. And incase someone says it.... JDM subies are avail with RWD trans.

[PapaBurgundy]

I call the 240 the automotive equivalent of a hooker, if you got the money it'll take it however you want it to. Think of the center of gravity if you could get a pancake motor in there!

[gregfarz78]

ECOtec also came in the cavalier, sunfire, cobalt, and the G5. GM's budget cars, I would opt for something better. I think a SR would be superior, but the SR's are getting up there in age.

The ecotec is a very capable engine, before everyone starts bashing american cars do some research on this engine it could probably give the SR a run for its money. Don't get me wrong I'm a huge fan of nissan engines but GM makes some nice ones too and you can probably pick up a used low mileage ecotec much cheaper than a SR. Buddy of mine was running mid 12s in a ecotec powered grand am imagine his engine in a car 400-500lbs lighter and rwd.

[Koshin]

It's boring because everyone does it.

about LS1's

Where is yours....pics??

[spooled240]

i'm stilll sticking to the 20B rotary swap-the production engine is based on the 13B so parts should be relatively easy to find and OMG...straight pipes on a rotary engine gets me high...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated

[White Comet]

Not just in 240s, they're in everything now. Not cool anymore.

yeah thats true, but the point of the swap isnt always to be cool, its about picking an engine thats a smart choice. an sbc motor can run at full throttle for an hour with no oil or coolant/water, before the engine blows. my brother's engine for example, is just a regular 350, but he got it fro free and parts are cheap