msb0b wrote:.... But compared to the EPA numbers, you hardly ever hear about people get better results. It is easier to optimized the car for the known EPA test conditions than the always variable real world. And typical drivers don't feather the throttle like they do in EPA tests.
I just took the time at fueleconomy.gov to go through a bunch of 2008 car models and compare the real world reporting numbers to the EPA estimates. I looked at various smaller car models from Toyota, Kia, Ford, Honda, Nissan, Smart, Pontiac, Suzuki, Mazda, Scion and Mini.
The numbers are interesting. Almost every car is running better than the new EPA estimates. Some are barely better, close to half of them are around 10% better, a couple are 20% better (Mini Cooper manual transmission and Toyota Yaris manual transmission).
Despite the complaints at the Honda forum linked to above, every model of Fit is averaging above EPA standard.
Only two cars are averaging exactly the EPA estimate and both are from Toyota. The Matrix with automatic transmission and the Prius.
Only one car out of all those reviewed is averaging below the EPA estimate. That dubious honor is held by the 2008 Nissan Versa with CVT.