This is great information right here. I would have assumed that i could possibly get away with holding onto the car for a few years until its 25th birthday and been good to go. I spoke with a few of my friends that have gray market cars and they had no issues but their cars are all models that are available here, just the euro versions that may have been federalized, My BMW was. (Land rovers, Mercedes, BMWs and Porsches) But lets face facts here the Skyline is a eye catching car, it WILL attract attention. I am sure as time goes on it will be less and less likely that it will happen but a risk is a risk is a risk.GTRPower wrote:Don't buy a car that has been improperly imported. They are still subject to seizure (US Customs, and by extension ICE therefor DHS) no matter what the DOT and EPA laws are.
The customs forms that you need to fill out are online. There is nothing in there that even remotely suggests that the country of manufacture needs to match the country you're importing from. If the car is 25 years or older (to the month), it is exempt from the normal requirements. Now from my research, the EPA forms suggest that a car that is being brought in as exempt must be in the original configuration. Presumably this means the original engine that came in the car and any factory emissions equipment. How stringent will the border agents be? I don't know, but I'm personally trying to find a car as close to the OEM configuration as possible to avoid any hassle. The last thing I want is for my car to be held up at the border because it has an aftermarket exhaust.RB26COUPE wrote:Have read through this thread and is it possible to buy an 1989 R32 GTR after August of 2014 through Canada. One that has already been imported under their 15 year rule? Instead of going through importing fr overseas.
Might save you some transport expense, but I can also imagine the tradeoff might be that good ol' Stage Twelve weight reduction: Rust.RB26COUPE wrote:Have read through this thread and is it possible to buy an 1989 R32 GTR after August of 2014 through Canada. One that has already been imported under their 15 year rule? Instead of going through importing fr overseas.
No. As long as you comply with the insurance laws of your state, the importation is already completed. The Feds have no say in that matter.soccersocker wrote:Say in the near (or far) future, you import a Skyline using the "25yr rule", that doesn't necessarily obligate you to then insure it as a classic car, or does it?
Some do, most don't. I don't have mileage restrictions on any of my classics (insured with Hagerty), but they certainly want you to have other, more "DD-friendly" vehicles. You attest, upon application for coverage, that you will maintain a regular-use car and that the classic is for pleasure / shows / events, etc.soccersocker wrote:From what I understand, the majority of companies that will insure a classic vehicle will not allow you to use it as a daily driver.
Of course. 25 isn't a magic number. Many older vehicles have regular policies.soccersocker wrote:What is the solution? Can you simply insure it as a regular car?
Baltimore would be more likely for an import from Japan. The state laws aren't the issue here, it's Federal law that's prohibiting importation, and since Federal law applies in all 50 states, once the 25-year exemption period passes, you're good to go, and just have to comply with the existing Federal laws on importation of a vehicle.soccersocker wrote:Also, most of the importation laws and guidelines seem very California centric. I live in NJ, however I believe the pickup port would be in NYC. What are the laws for those 2 states as far as the CARB/Direct Import laws that might hamstring potential owners in California vs NY/NJ.
Thank you for the great imformation AZ. Just a few more questions if I may.AZhitman wrote: Baltimore would be more likely for an import from Japan. The state laws aren't the issue here, it's Federal law that's prohibiting importation, and since Federal law applies in all 50 states, once the 25-year exemption period passes, you're good to go, and just have to comply with the existing Federal laws on importation of a vehicle.
Two years ago, I imported a 1963 Datsun from Australia. Fairly simple process (aside from the waiting - and the expense). The process for a Skyline will be no different.
I looked at a couple of Australian websites for used cars, and the Skylines are nearly double in price when compared to the prices I've seen in Japan. That's normal aye?AZhitman wrote: Two years ago, I imported a 1963 Datsun from Australia. Fairly simple process (aside from the waiting - and the expense). The process for a Skyline will be no different.
Can't stress this enough. Keep it off the books and keep it on the track. Those who have the 'registered in Florida' cars are on the books somewhere and are giving a great paper trail to follow. If you have one, wait it out and then when they are finally legal-able, then play the game and figure out what you've got to do. Send it out, then back in, etc...GTRPower wrote:.... It's not like pot- you don't have to register pot to use it- but if you want to drive an improperly imported car on the road you still have to have a plate- and the plate will create a paper trail that will only put your car under a magnifying glass sooner or later.
1. It's not a matter of preference - almost all OEM's from Japan come in through Baltimore (at least on the east coast).soccersocker wrote: 1. Any particular reason one would prefer Baltimore over NY?
2. Is California the only state to suffer these sort of laws? I understand Federal Laws will 9 times out of 10 trump a state law, but it's still a bit confuddling for somebody who has never imported a car before.
Skylines are nearly double in price when compared to the prices I've seen in Japan. That's normal aye?
That's why we're here. Welcome aboard.tittitbangbang wrote:man i was lucky enought to find this post before i trade some guy my z fo his r32 91 skyline in canada...
Nope. Nothing has changed. Again, they need to come through a RI and be Federalized, which to my knowledge, no one is doing (at least not affordably).tittitbangbang wrote: to my understanding is that 96-98 gtr's and gts-t are ok to import right ?
Still need to see bond release paperwork and a US VIN. If it's state-titled, it's still not legit, and he just wants to bail on it before he gets it confiscated.tittitbangbang wrote:now what about if some guys in wisconsin want to trade me his US TITLE R32 for my 350z what is it going on..