So you want to buy a Skyline in the US....

[AZhitman]

how is the car illegally imported?

Stays in the garage 99% of the time anyways

No reason to respond to the first question, the past 8 pages are clear.

Anything that stays in the garage 99% of the time is a decoration, not a performance car.

[AZhitman]

p.s. CZ, anytime you decide you're bored with the 32, you know where to find me.

[Count Zero]

p.s. CZ, anytime you decide you're bored with the 32, you know where to find me.

Phhh...yea, right.

Only way I'd sell it is if my boss every manages to talk me into moving to Canada....sell the Motorex one here in the states, and get a Canadian one; that way two people win.

[AZhitman]

Dialing him RIGHT now.

[Count Zero]

Dialing him RIGHT now.

HER actually. :PAnd yes, she's a MILF. (hates the term, but doesn't deny being one)

In fact, both my clients are female. And hot.I love my job.

[DarkBlueSr240]

Could I just import it for a track car?

[Count Zero]

In theory, yes......for 1 year.But at the end of that year, you have to sell, export or destroy the car.

But good luck getting Customs to issue the 1-year approval for a Skyline these days. (ie., they won't, for the simple fact that too many people are doing it, then taking the cars to FL or wherever, and getting state titles and selling them)

[Gold Digger]

In theory, yes......for 1 year.But at the end of that year, you have to sell, export or destroy the car.

But good luck getting Customs to issue the 1-year approval for a Skyline these days. (ie., they won't, for the simple fact that too many people are doing it, then taking the cars to FL or wherever, and getting state titles and selling them)

From what I found out last year, you also have to provide dates, locations and events to which you would be using the car for.

[kuuligan]

No reason to respond to the first question, the past 8 pages are clear.

Anything that stays in the garage 99% of the time is a decoration, not a performance car.

I was kidding about the 99%, but it stays in my garage most of the time becuase i'm travelling between austin/houston all the time.

[Count Zero]

From what I found out last year, you also have to provide dates, locations and events to which you would be using the car for.

Yea...the impression I get is that pretty much the only people they're allowing to bring Skylines in are the big-time sponsored cars in Pro-Level competitions, like the D1 circuit.

[carman24]

Hi, I'm new to this and i'm and I am looking for my first car.After looking i found a skylin for cheap and its in good condition 1993. I have been looking over this topic for a few days and I'm wondering if it is legalized. How coudl i find out if so, and idk what to do. I just wanna know how i can get it and not taking away by cops while on the road=)

[Count Zero]

Easiest way, if there's no paperwork, is to look on the door-trim on the driver's side.

All the Motorex cars will have a sticker from California showing that they were inspected for the NHTSA and EPA conversions.

[USsil80]

Hi, I'm new to this and i'm and I am looking for my first car.After looking i found a skyline for cheap and its in good condition 1993. I have been looking over this topic for a few days and I'm wondering if it is legalized. How could i find out if so, and idk what to do. I just wanna know how i can get it and not taking away by cops while on the road=)

First car.. and looking at a motorex car... deep pockets man they usually go for around 40k

[Gold Digger]

Hi, I'm new to this and i'm and I am looking for my first car.After looking i found a skylin for cheap and its in good condition 1993. I have been looking over this topic for a few days and I'm wondering if it is legalized. How coudl i find out if so, and idk what to do. I just wanna know how i can get it and not taking away by cops while on the road=)

Please don't take offense to this, but with your age, a Skyline is not the best car for you for your first one.

For one, parts are difficult to come by, and not cheap. The car itself can be expensive if it is a legal one. Right had drive take some getting used to, especially if you are driving it in the US. You will attract a lot of unwanted attention...i.e. people will want to race you, only because you are driving a Skyline, and that could get you noticed by the police, which you really don't want.

Like I said, I am not trying to rain down on your parade, just letting you know that a $$$ car like a Skyline may not be a good option.

[MazdaMX-3Driver]

Dude...dont let something a small as age get in your way...it just depends on how much money you have...i have a mazda daily driver but i also have my nissan 240sx-13 and its got a lot a **** done under the hood and it does take a lot of money but if your determinded than get it and be happy!

[Sechsterlo]

Taking note of the fact that Motorex apparently lives, yet states that they no longer import Skylines, it leaves to question why it is they should be allowed to retain any form of exclusivity/confidentiality rights to the info regarding the standards to which all Skylines must conform. If you arent going to engage in the practice, dont rain on the consumers party.

[AZhitman]

Even if the "mod list" were public info, it wouldn't matter. The cars have been blacklisted.

[Sechsterlo]

Even the R33 by this time? The list of eligible cars still lists the R33 as eligible, just between certain dates.

One way or the other, it is such a touchy subject, I would make a case * and am considering doing so* to the feds to review this from square one. By appearance, its been poorly handled since the first day.

[shift_2054]

their is a new place in florida that just opened up they will ship any skyline back for 10k I know the Guy that started it and i will try to find out what the name of the company is and get back to you they are in the orlando area

[SX Enthusia]

It makes it MUCH easier. That's all I'm saying.

Eliminates the need for crash-testing and such.

And "seeing" a car that's been imported means nothing to me. Seeing Federalization docs would impress me.

p.s. It's Birkmire. Doctor Birkmire, to you.

so i can import this rx7

http://www.japan-partner.com/A....html

and only have to worry about the emissions???

[Count Zero]

so i can import this rx7

http://www.japan-partner.com/A....html

and only have to worry about the emissions???

I think it's more a matter of, it's legal to import it via a Registered Importer and have them do the emissions and NHTSA safety stuff (glass, headlights, side-impact beams, bumpers, etc) without having to do crash-tests.

[teamboobs]

how difficult would it be just to buy one and drive it here from canada? i mean its not lke they are hunting down skylines...right? there is no way im going to buy a $9,000 car and spend god knows how much legalizing it, how much is it to get it legalized by the way?

[AZhitman]

Ummm, you still have to cross the border and register the car.

Please read the beginning of the thread.

[roadrunr]

I also did a whole lot of research on this and as far as I can remember, any Skyline that was manufactured for the Canadian market is OK to import, correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember the CFR saying this. Also, when did they ban all Skylines, I was doing my research about 3 months ago and the 1/96 to 6/98 cars were still Ok to Import, you just have to use a RI and do the mods, if thats changed would one of you please provide the link, I would like to read it. I do know of another way to find out what mods need to be done, just compare a JDM one against a imported one from Motorex, there wasn't really that much you had to do, stickers were a main thing, windshield, dash, doors, smog, controls and I believe re-anchoring some of the seat belt harness'. The crash test reports are up on the NHTSA site for all to read, so if you know a automobile engineer that can interpret them, your half way there. And wouldn't you think that the confidentially agreement would have an expiration date? And would it still be valid after what happened to Motorex? I still think that this can be LEGALLY DONE. I know the roadblocks are hefty, but the payoff would be nice too. If anyone wants to talk more about this I have all the crash test results printed out and most of the CFR Reg's. If a team of like minded people work on this together, we could get er done, and make lots of people's dreams come true. Let me know guy's. We won't get anywhere unless we try.

Here's a link to the page that talks about importing Canadian cars: http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/....html

Modified by roadrunr at 9:24 PM 5/9/2007
Modified by roadrunr at 9:25 PM 5/9/2007

[Count Zero]

1. Skylines don't count under the Canadian Market category...they were never manufactured for the Canadian market. They're currently legal there because their "collector market" law changed from 25 years or older like ours, to just 15.

2. Yes, the 96-99 R33's still have an allowable listing with the NHTSA, but... It's not just *any* R.I. that can bring them over and covert them....each R.I. has to prove their converstion process and get specific permission. While on paper you'd think that's not a hard process, but thanks to the crap Motorex pulled, the whole Skyline model is like unofficially blacklisted and there's currently no R.I. with the converstion authorization (that I'm aware of).

[USsil80]

the confidential part of converting the skyline was not motorex work... it was JK Technology.. they did all the paper work and crash testing.. if you read the documents it is there name one it, so they own it

[Cjmartz2k]

Newb on here, but not in general. I have just finished reading every post in this 9 freakin' page thread. I have a '92 R32 here in JP (military) and was considering the possibility of shipping it home in a year or two when I'm out of here and and just letting it sit in a garage till it's 25th Bday. Would it be fairly simple to register legaly then, or would I still run into all the same problems? I don't mind letting it sit with the occasional late night joy ride--and the possibility somebody might figure out a way in the mean time/laws might change.

BTW--is that you Nelson?

[AZhitman]

Welcome aboard, CJ, and thanks for serving.

Unfortunately, they've addressed military importations as well - not gonna fly.

Now, storing it in JP until it's 25 would be a great solution... Good idea.

[Cjmartz2k]

Thanks for the welcome.

Storing it over here isn't all that easy, especially over a long period of time. No where on base would be safe for that long, and parking off base is hard enough to find, let alone long term storage. If you were to dissasmble and part it home, than reassemble and let it sit, would that circumvent the process, or do you need proof that it was legaly brought into the country to get it registered on it's 25th?

Even if that works, I would still probably pull the drive train, than buy an older R32 just to get it all over with a few years sooner. I could probably sell the RB20 drivetrain too. You can get RB20'd R32's here in pretty good shape bone stock for $1500-$2500.

[AZhitman]

Yeah, they address bringing a car over in pieces as well. Actually, the statute speaks VERY specifically to that.