So...what cars/trucks have you surprised at the red light?

[walt1227]

By the way according to the specs the M56 has Curb weight: 4,028 lbs. I removed my spare tire, lighter wheels, and lighter exhaust so mine sits somewhere in the 3900 lb range. Not much but it does make some difference. Think I reduced about 100-150 lbs. It sure is lighter in the back end and she will fish tail all day with traction off and burns the tires with it on. Once I change out the suspension components it will be even lighter.

Nice. Unfortunately the X/AWD is 4,224 lbs. What a pig lol.

Well Ilya, you guys with AWD like I told Armybrat on FB a while back your cars will probably beat us RWD M56S off the line because you can put down all the power. I think that AWD once we get better mods will end up being the fastest of us all. I remember when I was shopping around for my M before buying one from California I drove two V6 M37's one AWD and one RWD. The AWD pulled harder off the line than the RWD because the power was evenly placed. Now if you AWD guys can find a way to reduce about 200lbs then it is a different ball game. If I could build a M56 for drag racing it would be a AWD just because I know how they pull vs the RWD. Now don't get me wrong these RWD's are beast mode but that wheel spin is crucial in winning a race and that is something AWD doesn't have to worry about.

[NRGM45]

By the way according to the specs the M56 has Curb weight: 4,028 lbs. I removed my spare tire, lighter wheels, and lighter exhaust so mine sits somewhere in the 3900 lb range. Not much but it does make some difference. Think I reduced about 100-150 lbs. It sure is lighter in the back end and she will fish tail all day with traction off and burns the tires with it on. Once I change out the suspension components it will be even lighter.

Or just lose some weight :P Haha

[walt1227]

By the way according to the specs the M56 has Curb weight: 4,028 lbs. I removed my spare tire, lighter wheels, and lighter exhaust so mine sits somewhere in the 3900 lb range. Not much but it does make some difference. Think I reduced about 100-150 lbs. It sure is lighter in the back end and she will fish tail all day with traction off and burns the tires with it on. Once I change out the suspension components it will be even lighter.

Or just lose some weight :P Haha

Hey you Jabroni stop calling me fat lmbo.

[NRGM45]

LOL :P

[armybrat]

...If I could build a M56 for drag racing it would be a AWD just because I know how they pull vs the RWD. Now don't get me wrong these RWD's are beast mode but that wheel spin is crucial in winning a race and that is something AWD doesn't have to worry about.

There's a 2012 M56X at Carmax for sale here in Winston-Salem, in case you're interested bwah ha ha.

https://www.carmax.com/car/13752746

[Ilya]

Nice. Unfortunately the X/AWD is 4,224 lbs. What a pig lol.

Well Ilya, you guys with AWD like I told Armybrat on FB a while back your cars will probably beat us RWD M56S off the line because you can put down all the power. I think that AWD once we get better mods will end up being the fastest of us all. I remember when I was shopping around for my M before buying one from California I drove two V6 M37's one AWD and one RWD. The AWD pulled harder off the line than the RWD because the power was evenly placed. Now if you AWD guys can find a way to reduce about 200lbs then it is a different ball game. If I could build a M56 for drag racing it would be a AWD just because I know how they pull vs the RWD. Now don't get me wrong these RWD's are beast mode but that wheel spin is crucial in winning a race and that is something AWD doesn't have to worry about.

I'd rather spin wheels and do burnouts than get solid digs, but that's just how I roll

[walt1227]

...If I could build a M56 for drag racing it would be a AWD just because I know how they pull vs the RWD. Now don't get me wrong these RWD's are beast mode but that wheel spin is crucial in winning a race and that is something AWD doesn't have to worry about.

There's a 2012 M56X at Carmax for sale here in Winston-Salem, in case you're interested bwah ha ha.

https://www.carmax.com/car/13752746

Haha it looks just like yours Armybrat. I paid less for mine with 20k plus less miles.

[walt1227]

Well Ilya, you guys with AWD like I told Armybrat on FB a while back your cars will probably beat us RWD M56S off the line because you can put down all the power. I think that AWD once we get better mods will end up being the fastest of us all. I remember when I was shopping around for my M before buying one from California I drove two V6 M37's one AWD and one RWD. The AWD pulled harder off the line than the RWD because the power was evenly placed. Now if you AWD guys can find a way to reduce about 200lbs then it is a different ball game. If I could build a M56 for drag racing it would be a AWD just because I know how they pull vs the RWD. Now don't get me wrong these RWD's are beast mode but that wheel spin is crucial in winning a race and that is something AWD doesn't have to worry about.

I'd rather spin wheels and do burnouts than get solid digs, but that's just how I roll

Haha nothing wrong with that.

[armybrat]

Well Ilya, you guys with AWD like I told Armybrat on FB a while back your cars will probably beat us RWD M56S off the line because you can put down all the power. I think that AWD once we get better mods will end up being the fastest of us all. I remember when I was shopping around for my M before buying one from California I drove two V6 M37's one AWD and one RWD. The AWD pulled harder off the line than the RWD because the power was evenly placed. Now if you AWD guys can find a way to reduce about 200lbs then it is a different ball game. If I could build a M56 for drag racing it would be a AWD just because I know how they pull vs the RWD. Now don't get me wrong these RWD's are beast mode but that wheel spin is crucial in winning a race and that is something AWD doesn't have to worry about.

I'd rather spin wheels and do burnouts than get solid digs, but that's just how I roll

Walt, according to the specs, the stock RWD model is 0.2 seconds faster than the AWD off the line 0 - 60 mph. The AWD catches up in the 1/4 mile though.
Ilya, I hear ya dude, nothing wrong with that ...but I prefer to be movin' on down the line.

Talking about wheel spin, I had an older Chevy 1500 try and take me this morning at a left turn light. I was in the inside lane and he was on my right. HIs truck had a rumble so I figured he had some kind of mod going on...at the green, we turned and once we got lined up straight we both nailed it...of course he spun wheels while I left him in the dust. I was hoping for another go at it from a straight line but the rest of the lights stayed green, and he didn't try and catch up. Also since my initial post, I did line up against a Charger 5.7 R/T. It was a short jaunt to the next light, so we really didn't get a chance to get going good but it was far enough to duel anyway. He also spun tires while I walked away.

Still looking for the white Chevy SS...

[DFW2011M56S]

I'd rather spin wheels and do burnouts than get solid digs, but that's just how I roll

Walt, according to the specs, the stock RWD model is 0.2 seconds faster than the AWD off the line 0 - 60 mph. The AWD catches up in the 1/4 mile though.
Ilya, I hear ya dude, nothing wrong with that ...but I prefer to be movin' on down the line.

Talking about wheel spin, I had an older Chevy 1500 try and take me this morning at a left turn light. I was in the inside lane and he was on my right. HIs truck had a rumble so I figured he had some kind of mod going on...at the green, we turned and once we got lined up straight we both nailed it...of course he spun wheels while I left him in the dust. I was hoping for another go at it from a straight line but the rest of the lights stayed green, and he didn't try and catch up. Also since my initial post, I did line up against a Charger 5.7 R/T. It was a short jaunt to the next light, so we really didn't get a chance to get going good but it was far enough to duel anyway. He also spun tires while I walked away.

Still looking for the white Chevy SS...

You have it backwards....The AWDs have a better 60' time and better 0-60. The RWD like my M56S move out the back better. They are lighter and have a higher trap speed.

[armybrat]

You have it backwards....The AWDs have a better 60' time and better 0-60. The RWD like my M56S move out the back better. They are lighter and have a higher trap speed.

No I do not, at least according to every review I've read - Motor Trend, Car And Driver, Edmunds, etc. all rate the RWD about 0.2 seconds faster.

2011 M56
Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.3 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 19.9 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 29.9 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.2 sec @ 108 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 157 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 165 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.84 g

2011M56x
Zero to 60 mph: 4.9 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.4 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 20.0 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.5 sec @ 108 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 143 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 166 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.83 g

2012 M56 Hybrid
Zero to 60 mph: 5.2 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 13.0 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 27.2 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 5.8 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 3.7 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 4.2 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.9 sec @ 103 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 185 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad*: 0.83 g

Unless you can point me in another direction I will stand by my statement...I've been known to be wrong before.

[DFW2011M56S]

Look at the data you just posted. The AWD X takes longer to get to 100, longer to 130, and runs 3 tenths slower in the 1/4! The test data I saw had the M56x at 4.6s 0-60 and the M56S at 4.7-4.8.

I also just found the Motortrend test you mentioned an those numbers were from a Pre-Production test car on th M56S. They even admitted that their long term test production M56S ran quicker numbers everywhere than the M56x.

[armybrat]

Ok you got me on the 1/4 mile...however, the 0 - 60 is still in the RWD favor...plus the numbers came from Car And Driver, not Motor Trend. Also, according to the long term numbers they posted, the car actually ran slower not faster, after 40,000 miles:

PERFORMANCE: 40,000
Zero to 60 mph: 4.9 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.7 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 20.7 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.0 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.5 sec @ 107 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 157 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 161 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.87 g

Nothing was said about the tests being on a pre-production car; at least I couldn't find anything in the original article stating that.

[DFW2011M56S]

Ok you got me on the 1/4 mile...however, the 0 - 60 is still in the RWD favor...plus the numbers came from Car And Driver, not Motor Trend. Also, according to the long term numbers they posted, the car actually ran slower not faster, after 40,000 miles:

PERFORMANCE: 40,000
Zero to 60 mph: 4.9 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.7 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 20.7 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.0 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.5 sec @ 107 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 157 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 161 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.87 g

Nothing was said about the tests being on a pre-production car; at least I couldn't find anything in the original article stating that.

Actually it was a Car & Driver test, sorry I don't know I had Motor Trend on the mind. It states pre-production right in their article.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/201 ... -road-test

[armybrat]

[Actually it was a Car & Driver test, sorry I don't know I had Motor Trend on the mind. It states pre-production right in their article.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/201 ... -road-test

Cool I forgot about the M56X review. It actually confirms what I was saying about the RWD being faster from 0 - 60 mph, and that's where I read about the AWD catching up to the RWD down the stretch. Missed the part about the pre-production model, although I'm not sure what the difference would be.

[DFW2011M56S]

[Actually it was a Car & Driver test, sorry I don't know I had Motor Trend on the mind. It states pre-production right in their article.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/201 ... -road-test

Cool I forgot about the M56X review. It actually confirms what I was saying about the RWD being faster from 0 - 60 mph, and that's where I read about the AWD catching up to the RWD down the stretch. Missed the part about the pre-production model, although I'm not sure what the difference would be.

Could have easily been weather and/or heat soak as well. Would explain why they saw slower times after the engine broke in as well.

[jmissile]

Stock vs stock the AWD rides higher by 1/2in, therefore giving RWD a lower drag coefficient sooo depending on wind conditions...

[biggie]

Sport model should be lower than the standard RWD, but I'm not trying to get into all those calculations.

300C surprised me the other day, I didn't know he was trying to just in front of me so was a slow start by me. Then I noticed his extra 50hp as well (SRT8).

Integra revved at me a while at red light, then he tried.

[dmclone]

When zero-130 times are within 0.1 seconds, you can consider it a tie all the way up. Any little change could produce opposite results.

[armybrat]

Well I had my first sprint today, going home from work. I caught up to an Audi S5 and a Nissan Altima who were racing and had slowed down. I passed both of them (3 lane hwy) and kept going. The Altima turned off but the Audi sped up and we both ended up at a stop light with cars ahead of us. Of course his lane was faster so I fell in behind him and we were off to the races. He tried to lose me but I was able to stay with him for a few miles before he turned off an exit. We really couldn't let it rip because of traffic but we had a few good sprints. It was a newer model (2013 - 2017) with the 3.0 V6, but I'm not sure if it was the older supercharged one or the new turbocharged one. Supercharged is 333 HP and the turbo makes 351 HP. Looking at the numbers, he would be faster from the start but on the interstate I may have a chance with the Uprev tune. The coupe weighs in around 3800 lbs which surprised me. Anyway, it was my first real sprint even though it was a performance coupe and not really in my class. I though the ole M did pretty good. I think my PCV catch can mod made a difference in the performance, as I collected a teaspoon from each can when I checked them after I got home.

[Altered]

It was a newer model (2013 - 2017) with the 3.0 V6, but I'm not sure if it was the older supercharged one or the new turbocharged one. Supercharged is 333 HP and the turbo makes 351 HP. Looking at the numbers, he would be faster from the start but on the interstate I may have a chance with the Uprev tune.

The 354 hp turbo engine is in the refreshed 2018 Coupe, so it would look a little different than the 2013-2017 Coupe. The Cabriolet looks the same for 2017 but is the refreshed body for the 2018 model.

Last October I drove a 2017 S5 Cabriolet and I was not impressed. It felt no faster than my M37x. Nice car, just didn't feel fast. I would think the VK powered M would hand it a whooping.

[armybrat]

The 354 hp turbo engine is in the refreshed 2018 Coupe, so it would look a little different than the 2013-2017 Coupe. The Cabriolet looks the same for 2017 but is the refreshed body for the 2018 model.

Last October I drove a 2017 S5 Cabriolet and I was not impressed. It felt no faster than my M37x. Nice car, just didn't feel fast. I would think the VK powered M would hand it a whooping.

Actually they started putting the turbo in the 2017 coupes. I couldn't tell which motor it had. It seemed pretty quick but I was able to catch back up each time he pulled away at a break in the traffic. I would've loved to do a 0-60 or get him on the interstate but it didn't work out.

[Ilya]

I recently beat an S5, didn't realize that thing was sub 400hp...I think like 350? I then kept up with a new M3...at least I think so. He was definitely 'on it' (exhaust tone was max'ed out and smoke coming from the tailpipes - like it does on my car at WOT). I was surprised.

[Malbec 56 Beast]

My G37xS handled a 300C rear wheel and I had to really piss of a guy in a V8 Challenger. He was pissed that the V6 had no issues dealing with him.

My M56xS killed a Q50S hybrid with no issue at all. I haven't had the chance to deal with to many wanting to do anything with my Mom, probably cuz they think it'll lose. Meaning my car, always had people wanting to challenge the G.

Andy

[stm37s]

I was on my way to Birmingham, Alabama from Snellville, Georgia along interstate I20 and this black Infiniti pulls up behind me and starts riding my bumper, I let it go for a mile or two and then I hit it roughly doing about 120 miles for about 5-10 miles straight before ran into traffic and had to slow down, long story short when I pulled off and he passed me, it was a M56.

I guess I surprised him with my little 3.7, the ride was smooth and surprisely no wind noise as I still has some left on the peddle. I had to get the cobb webs out of old girl and that was the perfect excuse for me. Just being able to open her up like that was pretty fun, I don't condone this but from time to time, me (personally) I got to let her loose.

This was conducted on a straight away of interstate I20, so don't bash me too bad fellas.

[mazz]

This was conducted on a straight away of interstate I20, so don't bash me too bad fellas.

what has this world come to when you have to apologize for a "quickie"!!

[stm37s]

This was conducted on a straight away of interstate I20, so don't bash me too bad fellas.

what has this world come to when you have to apologize for a "quickie"!!

2 funny mazz

[DFW2011M56S]

Well I can now add C6 LS3 Corvette to the list of things I have pulled away from in a roughly 1/4 mile drag race. I had a car length on him in 1st, barely tagged the 7K revlimiter shifting to 2nd, his nse got back to my door, then I pulled steadily away until the top of 3rd and had about 1 1/2 lemgths on him when I shut down.

[Bigdough]

Early Hemi Charger (06-07ish) R/T, modded, probably just exhaust. I got him off the line, put about half a car on him and kept the lead till he let off. Not bad for giving up 2 liters and cylinders.

I played with an SRT Challenger on the highway but he kept taking off before I got even with him, I know his car is faster but I was interested to see how much.