So im at a stop light and....

[tunerinms]

So im at a stop light and i have my girlfriend in the car with me and my friend pulls up next to me. We had been at the local hang out where no decent cars show up anymore because all the trashy kids want to do is fight. But thats a whole other story. Anyway this guy is a good friend of mine he has helped me out with my car and bought me a pack of jarves when i didnt have any money yada yada yada. When he pulled up my girl friend asked me if his car was fast. He has a new body style celica with a HUGE spoiler, body kit, rims, neon, tint, dual can exhaust, roof spoiler, and yes he had graphics. So when she asked me that i was like uhhhhhh NO. So then she asked the question that stumped me. Why did he do all that and not change the performance? And yes she did say performance, im so proud haha So im a little youthful and thought id ask the big boys. Why the hell are people thinking these days?

[duffman1278]

To each his own??

[tunerinms]

I know that im not really "hatin" i just wonder why they choose that route as their own... All show and no go... why imitate a performance car and not have any power or suspension parts?

[Papi Chulo]

why imitate a performance car that never actually performs?

[Nali]

Not everyone wants a car thats fast. Some just want a car that looks good.

And a good looking car is relative to the beholder. some go VIP and camber the s*** outta the car, others think a bright yellow paint job massive wing and rusted hood is good looking.

Im never really shocked when i see, what many perceive as a ricey car.

What really shocks me is how many people waste massive amounts of money on modifying a cheap car to high performance levels, then never use said performance?i.e SR20s and coilovers for a commuter car???

[240sxFTW]

why post lame threads that should be in the general chat room. wtf does this have to do with 240's?

anyone else come into this thread expecting that he either A. got rear ended B. went through the stop sign violently and got T-boned or C. Got rear ended, pushed into the intersection and then got T-boned.

k thx bye

[a hashi]

why post lame threads that should be in the general chat room. wtf does this have to do with 240's?

anyone else come into this thread expecting that he either A. got rear ended B. went through the stop sign violently and got T-boned or C. Got rear ended, pushed into the intersection and then got T-boned.

k thx bye

[Amtk240]

Why the hell are people thinking these days?

I thought most people don't. You're giving too much credit to the retards. End/

[ArcherV20]

I just picked up a 96 240 the outside is clean except the front bumper which has paint peeling. Its completely stock except a pipe. I believe it has aftermarket struts because i feel every bump in the road because its so stiff. Anyway my tach doesnt work nor the speed senor and it has over 200k miles and 3 engine senors are bad ( one is the CPS which is my tach problem ) my clutch is slipping bad and there is a loud popping noise coming from the rear suspension when i let of or hit a bump. ( not a backfire ) i got the car for 2k and the interior is clean as can be. oh and a head light is out so do yall think i got the better of the bargain?Even though it has its faults I am now a proud s14 owner after 3 years of waiting.

Because some people don't care about speed? Maybe I'm wrong but a celica with some ricey mods seems to beat out a busted a** pain in the neck S14 anyday.

[PhopsonNY]

Cant's say about this Celica guy, but some people like the gratification of doing work on their car and then being able to see what they do.They also like to impress their friends with the work they do on their cars.

Performance is great, but there are not many opportunities to show that off effectively, besides it takes more skill.

[simmode1]

So when she asked me that i was like uhhhhhh NO. So then she asked the question that stumped me. Why did he do all that and not change the performance?

What you should have said: 'I'm sorry to say it babe, but my homie is a ... ricer.'

I had a similar experience with a Civic driving friend. We were discussing how another mutual friend is planning on buying a newer car and has decided on getting an '05 STI. My Civic driving buddy proceeds to say, "Sorry man, but if I was gonna spend $17k on a new car, I'd just get one of the new Civic SI's..."

I was like "You'd take a Civic SI over a similarly priced Impreza STI?!"

He said; "What can I say? I'm a Honda guy."

My girlfriend (now ex) heard the conversation and goes "Isn't that Subaru turbo and all wheel drive?"

I say "Yep."

Her: "He's stupid."

[Nali]

What you should have said: 'I'm sorry to say it babe, but my homie is a ... ricer.' I had a similar experience

OPs, friend likes a good looking car, and doesnt need it to go fast. So hes got the bodykit and all.

But on to ur experienceSince shes ur ex i can bash her. She is overly condescending calling him stupid because he wants a Civic Si over the 05 impreza which unless we are talking about the propeller, isnt exactly pretty. The Si with minor mods looks phenomenal compared to the Za.

If I wanted a daily driver, and had 17 grand to spend, the 05 Impreza isnt high on the list of cars i would buy. Heck the 05 impreza isnt high on my list of cars for anything cept take a dump on cuz the owners think their hard.

[simmode1]

^^^ I'm gonna disagree with all that chit. I completely agreed with her. Honda makes some decent cars, but I am thoroughly underwhelmed at the prospect of owning and driving an N/A, FWD car. Choosing an SI over and STI makes no sense to me.

And whoever said the OP's friend's car looked good? It might look like a p.o.s....

[Nali]

Looks are relative to the beholder.Some people like the rusted hood look, i personally hate it to death.So the Celica might have looked ugly to you, but been the shiet to the driver, i dont think ricers actually hate their cars, do you?

As for owning and driving an FWD n/a, i used to drive an N14 before i got my S13, and i used it purely for commuter purposes, so i never even thought of going with something else, and in my opinion its one of Nissans Greatest cars ever. if i could find an 2 litre one today, id buy it straight up and use it as a daily cuz my S13 is transforming faster than anticipated.

So again its kinda relative, the Impreza might work for some, but not all. I dont think its fair to call someone stupid because their opinions differ from yours. esp when it comes to Civic Si vs Ugly Impreza for daily purposes.An impreza is a fun car. But if i never have fun with it, it ends up being a shotgun to kill flys

i suppose this isnt going to go anywhere, so lets agree to disagree, altho i still think ur X is on a gay high horse for thinking ur friend is Stupid.

[tunerinms]

Ya thats why i fixed all the problems and kick my friends a** with the celica. U can suck on my balls archer because i worked for all of my s***. I went from buying an $800 dollar eclipse so selling my s14 for $3500. Never added money to the pot just flipped cars. What did you do when you were 17?

[Black on Gold]

and this is where my banning for useless thread comes along

[Metal Angel]

If you are still curious why people make their cars look nice as opposed to throwing copious amounts of money into the engine and keeping the rat look for the exterior, then refer to Modified July 09. John Pangilinan created quite possibly the most delicious car I have ever seen. FWD Scion tC. Modified does not even publish horsepower numbers on this particular car... it probably makes 200hp or less. By your definition this car is rice, but by the rest of the tuning scene this man has achieved heights that you could never dream of.

P.S. refer also to BrianHarte's 180sx. One of the most beautiful S-chassis cars I have ever seen and it runs a stock KA.

[simmode1]

Yeah, we're gonna have to agree to disagree. You seem like the type who might argue that buying a car with a high performance pedigree, like a Corvette, would be pointless/unnecessary unless your pushing it to the limit often. Therefore, buying a car with a lower performance threshold is more rational since your just driving to work and back.

Well, I don't live like that and neither does my Civic loving friend. We just have fundamental differences of opinion on what makes a good performance car.

But I would rather have thisinstead of thisanyday of the week.

[Gabes13]

I liked the story.

[Metal Angel]

Yeah, we're gonna have to agree to disagree. You seem like the type who might argue that buying a car with a high performance pedigree, like a Corvette, would be pointless/unnecessary unless your pushing it to the limit often. Therefore, buying a car with a lower performance threshold is more rational since your just driving to work and back.

Well, I don't live like that and neither does my Civic loving friend. We just have fundamental differences of opinion on what makes a good performance car.

Personally, I would never drive a civic over a wrx. Hey, I would even drive a standard impreza before driving a civic. I am merely submitting that there is a place in the tuning world for good looking cars. It would be nice if we all had the money to have gorgeous cars with RB26s but we don't, so we can look up to the guys who do. The rest of us just have to pick whether we want looks or performance or a mild dose of each. Just because you picked performance doesnt mean you are any better than the guy who picked aesthetics.

...you can drive faster tho
Modified by Metal Angel at 4:59 PM 7/28/2009

[AZ89two4Tsx]

A Civic Si is nice, but it shouldn't be in the same category as a wrx/sti.

Like it or not, Honda makes solid cars. Everyone here is just so brand loyal, they can't see/think outside the box.

[Koshin]

fwd performance cars are ghey...simple as that

performance > looks

[simmode1]

A Civic Si is nice, but it shouldn't be in the same category as a wrx/sti.

Like it or not, Honda makes solid cars. Everyone here is just so brand loyal, they can't see/think outside the box.

I'm NOT brand loyal at all. My Honda friend is. I want the best performing car I can get at a certain price point, iiregardless of brand. I'm selling my s13 this fall for an SW20.

It's all rhetoric since it's not me thats forking out $17k for a newish car.

[killernoodle]

My girlfriend is trying to decide on a new car to replace her bone stock 96 civic and she is looking at used GTOs.

I'm a lucky guy I guess.

[OutToWinPAHC]

pics of said girlfriend?

[Metal Angel]

I'm NOT brand loyal at all. My Honda friend is. I want the best performing car I can get at a certain price point, iiregardless of brand. I'm selling my s13 this fall for an SW20.

It's all rhetoric since it's not me thats forking out $17k for a newish car.

Aha! So you are loyal to pop-up headlights! Pop-ups FTW!

[simmode1]

Aha! So you are loyal to pop-up headlights! Pop-ups FTW!

Phuck yes!

[JustDriftMore]

because thats all you can do to a celica tell him to get a supra haha

[skyline3489]

fwd performance cars are ghey...simple as that

performance > looks

[AZ89two4Tsx]

fwd performance cars are ghey...simple as that

performance > looks

That's a really stupid statement Rich.