"slight" performance upgrade for the EX35

Discussion of Infiniti's amazing (and underrated) sport-luxury crossovers, the EX35 and EX37. For 2014, the EX series will be renamed QX50, in line with Ininfiit's new naming conventions.
kamiguy
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_Cwsjb-ccE
Check this work in progress out...


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EXceptional
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Interesting build.

Did anyone notice in the Video how the Rear Wheels turned before the Fronts did?

What's with that?

Shouldn't all four start at the same time?

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AWGD8
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Exactly how the EX35 AWD behaves normally. I do this on a snowy days, during a slight turn, I will punch the gas half way and my rear slid sideways for a fraction of sec. until the front tires bite (AWD).


If I will keep my EX35 when I reached 50 years old, that 10k GTM Turbo kit upgrade will saves me money for another retirement dream car. :biggrin:

8OO HP baby! Perfect sleeper car!

kamiguy
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EXceptional wrote:Interesting build.

Did anyone notice in the Video how the Rear Wheels turned before the Fronts did?

What's with that?

Shouldn't all four start at the same time?
Assuming that it's an American car and probably just RWD, is it possible that the front dyno rollers are motorized for some reason? Anyone with dyno experience can chime in here...

EibachMBZ
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kamiguy wrote:
EXceptional wrote:Interesting build.

Did anyone notice in the Video how the Rear Wheels turned before the Fronts did?

What's with that?

Shouldn't all four start at the same time?
Assuming that it's an American car and probably just RWD, is it possible that the front dyno rollers are motorized for some reason? Anyone with dyno experience can chime in here...
That is how the "Intelligent All-Wheel Drive" work...
100% power to the rear when you don't need power in the front wheel.

I personally think EX with 800+hp is completely waste of money
The car handles good for a crossover but worse than a stock Corolla when comes to turn
With that type of power, the car can only go straight... I would rather use that money and built myself an American muscle car

When I dyno my RWD EX, the front roller is not engaged at all...

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EibachMBZ wrote: I personally think EX with 800+hp is completely waste of money
The car handles good for a crossover but worse than a stock Corolla when comes to turn
With that type of power, the car can only go straight... I would rather use that money and built myself an American muscle car

When I dyno my RWD EX, the front roller is not engaged at all...
I assume its hyperbole when you state that a Corolla handles better than the EX? I've driven 1990, 1996, 2001, 2003, and 2008 Corollas (Right hand drive, left hand drive, everything from 1.3L to 1.8L) and I would characterize their handling as soft and wallowly. There's quite a significant amount of lean in a turn not to mention the fact that the tires start to squeal if you try to take a corner too fast. I came from a 3-series and I think the EX corners about as well.

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AWGD8
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minimo3 wrote:
EibachMBZ wrote: I personally think EX with 800+hp is completely waste of money
The car handles good for a crossover but worse than a stock Corolla when comes to turn
With that type of power, the car can only go straight... I would rather use that money and built myself an American muscle car

When I dyno my RWD EX, the front roller is not engaged at all...
There is no way a corolla handles better than the EX35. The EX35 loves to slide a bit for turns and I would say, you have to know the car well to understand it`s dynamics.

If you turn too early in the curve, you`ll definitely end up understeer and feels like a very heavy toyota corolla front wheel drive car! but if you enter the curve and gas it a bit before the front end get straight or parallel to the straight way (exit), then it does really handle great. Sometimes you need to drift a bit on turns and treat it as a full time RWD. You should know this better since you are driving a full time RWD EX35... ;)

ramprun
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i understand that the AWD kicks in when it detects rearwheels slippage but isn't it suppose to activate all four wheel from stop to about 20mph?

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AWGD8
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ramprun wrote:i understand that the AWD kicks in when it detects rearwheels slippage but isn't it suppose to activate all four wheel from stop to about 20mph?
I would say if you slowly gas it from stop to 20mph, it probably is still on RWD . But if you floored it from stop to 20mph, I`m sure it`s AWD!

If you notice on the video, it took close to 2.5 sec (0:32-0:34 sec) for the front to fully engage and that is pressing the gas pedal slowly. That would pretty much hit 20mph in full RWD if easy on gas.... If this guy floored it from stop, it will start rolling 4 tires at the same time.

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EibachMBZ wrote:

That is how the "Intelligent All-Wheel Drive" work...
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you beat me to it :D

ss_serg
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Oh! There is a topic about my car long ago here.
I apologize that created a parallel topic here. It was necessary to do better search and to place it here.
So, I got the car, but have the problems described in a topic.
I will be glad to hear councils and to answer any questions, guys.

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AWGD8
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ss_serg, I read some horror story from G37 forum regarding GTM practice similar to you. There was a guy GTM ignored his communication after paying for TT setup. He advise to not pay it in full until everything works properly.

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AWGD8 wrote: I read some horror story
I read it too. This subject appeared after my project was started (February 2011). I suspect that GTM hurried to announce a TTkit on EX35, expecting to finish mine and to sell the similar. They were engaged with mine 2 years. As they claim, it was development of a kit from scratch because anything from they had didn't approach by the sizes was required.

There was agreement that when they declare that everything is ready I pay and they send the car. It happened at the start of 2013. Then they were engaged for a long time in completions of allegedly arisen problems. Unfortunately, I was compelled to take them the word because had no opportunity to check everything personally. I counted on their reputation. In 2011 their reputation was pretty reliable. That's why I went to them. As a result, that’s how it turned out.

To be honor I must say, that up to this time all works accordingly TT-kit looks perfect.

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AWGD8
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So, did GTM fixed your car or other shop( locally)fixed it?

ss_serg
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GTM didn’t do anything and didn't said a word after their last mail (as I said earlier, it was 4 month ago, when we replaced clutches first time). I hoped that after I post this topic they will find the courage to answer me, but it’s fruitless. I do it in local shop, trying to understand what GTM did with my car.

Today we disassembled the gearbox. And saw another burned kit of clutches. 3 clutch packs of 6 are dead. And that is a good news. Because I expected the worst. Oil pump, axis, torque converter seems to be OK. My theory about unmodified valve body is in one step from confirmation. Definitely transmission doesn't suffice hydraulic pressure for fast switching of the raised torque.

It is confirmed by that even at a quiet driving there is a slipping of clutches when shifting and they burn. All errors at diagnostics and all internal damages speak only about slipping of clutches. Next week we will disassemble the valvbody and it will become finally clear, whether GTM worked with it or not. If we don't find traces of increase of hydraulic pressure, we will try to establish a reprogramming kit from TransGO. Except such experiments, I have no ways because there is no information from GTM.

Be famous, GTM! )))

By the way, does anybody knows, whether it is possible to reprogram the TCM (trans control module) in our transmission?


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